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K1: Clash of Giants Silva (7'4") vs Schilt (7'0")

cybrbeast says...

Well Semmy is actually 6"11.5" but that doesn't look nice in the title.
Don't get me wrong, I love his movies but Tony Jaa would be completely crushed by nearly any K1 fighter. He was not trained in competitive fighting only show fighting and acrobatics.

K1: Clash of Giants Silva (7'4") vs Schilt (7'0")

Awesome low-budget fight scene

Awesome low-budget fight scene

Cop from District B13 shows how to enter a casino

One of the Best Action Scenes Ever - from the film Old Boy

Ong-bak องค์บาก Fight Scene

Ong-bak องค์บาก Fight Scene

Ong-bak องค์บาก Fight Scene

The Protector - Capoeira vs Muay Thai

Death from Above, Part 1: Flying Submission Attacks

rembar says...

Did you know, Enzoblue, there's a term amongst fighters in MMA for somebody who is hoping to win by some quick lucky break rather than any superiority of technical or physical ability? It's called taking a puncher's chance.

And yes, that comes straight from boxing. In boxing, sometimes there are lucky hits, and sometimes no, you can't overcome them. Because every so often even a high level fighter will look the wrong way for a split second or bob when he should weave and just by chance, just from pure random chance, the can that he is supposed to be destroying takes a massive swing and gets the flash KO. And the champ will hit the mat, and he won't get up. Will and spirit and whatever else you want to say has no part in it, the man is unconscious.

So when you're talking about MMA, understand that fighters often consider standup striking to be a far riskier prospect, in that there is a higher chance that an inferior opponent will catch a lucky punch KO than a lucky sub.

As for this: "That's not fighting the way anyone wants, we want epic battles decided by brute force and technique and spirit." I have already addressed the fact that submission fighting is just as much a measure of technique, spirit, and athleticism as other aspects of the MMA game. And what exactly is "fighting the way anyone wants"? Do you think MMA fights are supposed to look the way people imagine they should, or more to the point, the way you imagine they should? They aren't, that's what Tony Jaa flicks are for. If you want to watch good fights the way they happen realistically between real experts, then go to an MMA match.

One of my coaches quoted after somebody commented about what he believed was a lucky win, "Luck is the intersection between opportunity and preparation." Sometimes inferior opponents catch lucky hits and lucky subs. That's the sport. The good guy doesn't always win. There is always the uncontrollable variable of luck, but the good fighters train so every other variable, be it strength, endurance, speed, power, whatever, is under their control.

In all honesty, I'm just repeating the things I said in my above post, but it's not clicking for you, I think because you don't have the experience or knowledge to dig what I'm saying. If one day you look deeper into MMA or even better take a crack at training it, you will be in a better position to judge. But until you do, and until you are, understand that I believe you are demeaning the sport by making ignorant assertions about what styles of fighting are "cheesy" or cheap, and what truly requires strength of heart.

P.S. As for groin strikes, if they were allowed, the sport would in all likelihood not be reduced to groin snipers. As Matt Thornton would say, adding a single strike does not affect the delivery systems that form the base for good fighters. Submissions, on the other hand, are not single attacks, they are a range of attacks, and thus are part of that base. It's the same as training for a self-defense type of situation: learn the gameplan, develop a base, then just add dirt.

Ong Bak 2 Final Scene

Ong Bak 2 Final Scene

lertad says...

Just FYI, the voiceover that Tony Jaa recalls says: "The most important part of an elephant's foot is the achilles tendon. If they are destroyed, the elephant will fall."

Which is why he goes on to beat the heck out of the muscle dudes' joints.

tony jaa is a god

Maxx says...

I've been waiting for years for this guy to hit US shores. I never thought anyone could fill the void Jackie Chan left when he went hollywood...but I was wrong. Never has martial arts talent and acrobatics been so seamlessly combined. The movies are actually quite terrible by any standard, but watching Tony move is more than enough to carry the films. Tony Jaa is the real deal and just one of many reasons I love Thailand.

tony jaa is a god

ice2cu says...

Tony Jaa has some real talent, yes. Everyone can agree on that. But why would you pick Fall Out Boy as the music for this? Yes, it is a pretty good song for some, but c'mon...who thinks of that song when they see some guy kickin' the crap out of people? It's like playing Michael Bolton and break dancing to it...what would that be like?...I wonder...



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