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Doom 3 Monster Closet 3 was the last iD game I ever bought. Or ever will buy. Worry not, though: they're working hard on Monster Closet 4.>> ^Drax:

Hey, I kinda like Doom 3 for what it is.. but dear lord.. Rage.... /cracksmoke

Yeah, because Carmack never made a mistake. <cough>Doom 3<cough>Rage<cough>
>> ^Deano:

Isn't Carmack the guy to take note of? Apparently to impress him you have to be doing something right.

When the Gabe speaks, we listen.
>> ^dag:

Wow - SnowCrash, here we come - and they got Gaben to say nice things about it.

Thanks dude

In reply to this comment by dag:
*promote

Oh shit, I forgot about the cyberpuck, which sounds like a robotic Shakespeare character. <- boom goes the dynamite.
And the whole 1280 x 800 smacks of bs to me in the same way Forte's claims of 512x460 did: adding together the per-eye resolution. Granted, they seem to be upfront about the vertical resolution of 800 (which isn't great for 2012 either) but that horizontal res? Boolshit! It might be 1280 for an iguana with eyes on either side of it's head, looking at different shit per eyeball all its life. But for we humans, each eyeball pretty much looks at the same thing, not accounting for parallax of course. So I'd say the actual horizontal resolution might approach 800, depending on how much they want each eye to "share" as it were. So it's essentially a giant square.

Naysaying/partypooping aside, it still looks promising. There's nothing quite like moving your head around to observe a virtual world: it affords the kind of immersion you can't touch with a standard monitor setup, I don't care how big it is. <- that's what she never says. Boom again!

>> ^probie:

>> ^shuac:
Back in '96, I bought a Forte VFX-1 which was a VR headset with stereoscopic vision, very comfy over-the-ear headphones, and motion tracking. All for about $1000.
Each eyeball had it's own little LCD screen (263x230) and I can tell you that it looked like pure ass. Despite it's shortcomings, I played the original System Shock with it and I still have very fond memories of skulking through Citadel station with that thing strapped to my melon.
While I'm not interested in contributing to a kickstarter campaign (after all, that's why we have venture capitalists), I may be interested in a finished retail product.

Ha! I, too, bought a VFX-1 headset. (Had to buy a separate Number Nine S3 Virge card as well so the interface cable would work). I never did play SS1 on it, but I did roll through Quake 1 and all of it's mission packs, as well as used it for Looking Glass' Flight Unlimited. I never used the Cyberpuck controller, as it wasn't very intuitive to me. Once GLQuake came out (which had to run at nothing less than 512x384) that was the final nail in the coffin. But fun times while it lasted.

>> ^shuac:

Back in '96, I bought a Forte VFX-1 which was a VR headset with stereoscopic vision, very comfy over-the-ear headphones, and motion tracking. All for about $1000.
Each eyeball had it's own little LCD screen (263x230) and I can tell you that it looked like pure ass. Despite it's shortcomings, I played the original System Shock with it and I still have very fond memories of skulking through Citadel station with that thing strapped to my melon.
While I'm not interested in contributing to a kickstarter campaign (after all, that's why we have venture capitalists), I may be interested in a finished retail product.


Ha! I, too, bought a VFX-1 headset. (Had to buy a separate Number Nine S3 Virge card as well so the interface cable would work). I never did play SS1 on it, but I did roll through Quake 1 and all of it's mission packs, as well as used it for Looking Glass' Flight Unlimited. I never used the Cyberpuck controller, as it wasn't very intuitive to me. Once GLQuake came out (which had to run at nothing less than 512x384) that was the final nail in the coffin. But fun times while it lasted.

Let me first say, I'm happy to see this. Any push on getting 3D gaming into the hands of more people is a good thing. However...

From their website: Resolution: 1280x800 (640x800 per eye)

Hmm, this is why I went with the Asus 1920x1080 Lightboost monitor over the Sony OLED head mounted display (added benefit: the monitor's a lot less dorky). While I hear the black levels on the OLED are incredible, it's a 720p display.. and I've read owners already regretting the "low rez" of the unit.

3D may not be everyone's bag for movies, but it's great for immersive gaming. Titles like Skyrim and Witcher 2 are freaking awesome in 3D.. but that low a rez is hard to go back to unless the unit's cheap(ish). At least with the monitor it serves well for gaming and everything else, and if a game doesn't work in 3D you get the 120hz, which is really nice for fluid gaming. These head units use 60hz per eye because there's no nead to flip between two images.. each eye gets it's own.

I'll be interested to hear how the huge FOV affects the experience though.

And for anyone getting into stereo gaming with an NVIDIA set up, this web site's invaluable. Someone figured out how to modify shaders in just about any game, and the community here modifies games to make them close to perfect in 3D, even some that were unplayable...

http://helixmod.wikispot.org/gamelist

edit-Alright, just read this in their FAQ

"While it’s true that the developer kit uses a relatively low-resolution screen (1280x800), we promise it delivers a compelling, immersive 3D experience. And to be clear, we plan on improving the resolution of the screen for the consumer version. Stay tuned for more details!"

You have to take a little from Orwell, Huxley, and Bradbury as well.

I can't look at a Kindle or Kinect without thinking about a world voluntarily giving up books for immersion gaming and entertainment.

Blasted spell check got me on that one lol.
>> ^pho3n1x:

I'm fairly sure you mean "immersive".
Unless this mechwarrior takes place underwater.

I'm fairly sure you mean "immersive".

Unless this mechwarrior takes place underwater.

I'm just going to give my opinion here, mostly because George Carlin is my hero, and because I'm interested in the topic:

Regarding things being offensive:
There isn't any topic known anywhere to human kind that won't offend someone. Whether it's daisies or pancakes or pinwheels someone, somewhere, can be offended by it. I guarantee it. This is just my opinion, but I don't think that anyone has the right to 'not be offended.'

Regarding comedians:
People mostly don't seem to realize the importance of humor in all of our lives. Comedians play a very important role in the collective human community that cannot be replaced. They help us deal with parts of ourselves that would otherwise be unacceptable for us to even sometimes think about. Just like the court jester who might otherwise get himself beheaded if he were a normal person suggesting the king was fat. Almost all humor, successful or not, makes people feel uncomfortable. The very best humor makes people really uncomfortable. Laughter itself is a response to these same situations and events that we just have a little-bit of a hard time dealing with. I think this is why comedians, while onstage, are given a free pass. Even their televised specials get edited for content, but the only time a comedian gets kicked off stage in a club is when no one is laughing. What they're saying implies a lot more about the people laughing than it does about the comedian. Follow me?

And it's important to remember that most comedians are artists who are immersed in their material. Most have specific routines that are worked out over and over again, tweeking the tone and meter until they become almost meaningless to the comedians themselves. This is why you rarely see experienced comedians laughing at their own jokes, they've just heard them too many times. And even when they are performing improvisationally, like Tosh was during the event in question, they aren't saying things that they think are funny, specifically, they are saying things that they think the audience will find funny. It may seem like a small distinction, but it can make a big difference in understanding why some jokes are made. Some comedians have a style based on saying shocking, offensive things, and it's they're job. They are paid to make an audience laugh, and whether you like him or not, Tosh gets paid.

And the particular incident and joke:
This whole thing was brought up by a woman who was at a show and heard something she didn't like. She retorted back from the audience that rape isn't funny. To which Tosh retorted back that it would be funny if the woman was "raped by like five guys." Now, according to the woman, that made her actually fear for her safety and she got up and left. I'm not going to debate her sanity, if she really felt threatened, then that's terrible and I feel bad for her. But there are a few things that need to be pointed out here:

1: Tosh didn't threaten anyone. Had he said: "you five guys over there should rape this woman," it would not only be offensive to many people, but it also could have been perceived as a legitimate threat that, maybe, could have been pursued legally.

2: Hecklers are always dealt with harshly. And so should they be. Complain all you want about a person outside of a show but when you go to a comedy club, you have agreed that it's that person's time to talk. And so has everyone else who paid money to listen to them, not you. They're up there making a living, succeeding or failing at the expense of their own ass, not yours. It should be noted here that the woman said she left the room to the laughter of the entire audience.

3: You do not have the right to not be offended, especially if you are at a fucking comedy club. There was a pretty famous incident with Joan Rivers when she was joking about deaf people on stage, and a man in the audience stood up and started yelling at her because his daughter was deaf and he didn't find her jokes funny. Well, Joan Rivers responded that her own mother was deaf, and that she'd had to deal with that on her own terms. Comedy was something that helped her deal with that (because comedy is a useful tool) and if he didn't like it, he could go fuck himself. And that's the thing, you never know people's story. The girl at Tosh's show couldn't know Tosh's experience with rape, just like he couldn't know hers. And if you don't think people who've experienced a major tragedy can joke about the horrible events in their lives, I invite you to go watch some Bob Saget material. Humor is subjective. Saying you don't think something should be allowed because it's not funny, is exactly the same as saying something shouldn't be allowed because you don't think it's funny. Whatever it is, you can bet that someone out there finds it funny, even if it's nonsense.

Rape jokes are hardly ever funny. Even Carlin's few never got much of a laugh. But jokes are thoughts, and I'd really rather people stop trying to police thoughts. If someone finds a joke threatening, then deal with the threat, not the joke. And if someone finds a joke offensive, well...

>> ^ant:

>> ^HugeJerk:
If you've seen the trailers, you have seen 90% of the plot points.>> ^ant:
Do I assume this has spoilers? I haven't seen the movie yet.


Damn.


Ant,

Take all of this with a grain of salt. Coming out of the theater I didn't think it was the "fantastic" movie the hype made it out to be. But, I did think it was a good movie. It was entertaining and the cinematography was brilliant. I felt they did an excellent job of using their CGI budget to immerse you in their world, thus drawing you into the film.

The part about the stupidity of the crew and their actions are all true. Characters do things that make you face-palm... But hey, what Sci-fi movie doesn't have those characters? If everyone behaved exactly how you would expect them to, films would be extremely boring.

I actually believe to a certain extent this is done on purpose. Every time a crew member would do something like stick his face close to something that looks like it could pop makes you think, "No, no, no.... why? oh god what's going to happen!? YOU ARE STUPID!" Sometimes something happens, other times it does not. It builds suspense in the movie. The fact that you know the actions of a character will probably have negative consequences puts you on the edge of your seat. If instead of touching the "alien goo" they said, "Hey lets get a robot with a 10 foot pole and extract it remotely from the ship because it would be way safer." it would be utterly boring and mind numbing to watch. You can't have a sci-fi suspense movie where everyone makes the best and safest decision possible.

My best advice is to just go into the movie wanting to be entertained. Laugh at the dumb things people do and enjoy the CGI world along with the neat future technology / heads-up displays.

I'm not a Ninty fan but all those examples of the gamepad screen looked fun and useful. And also keeps you immersed. Particularly good for a zombie game where there should be plenty of tension and fraught moments.

>> ^shagen454:

Oh yes! I crave destruction, exposing myself and manipulation, Shinyblurry, MU HAH HAH HAAAAA, MU HAH HAH HAAA!! Pure BLISS and EVIL!

>> ^shinyblurry:

>> ^shagen454:
Well Shinyblurry, you would probably be the one of the one's who swears to have had the most important encounter with your god in all of mankind. Or because of your closed-mindedness & hatefulness towards anything that doesn't match your description of religion, you would see demons who would show you just how wrong you are.
But, if you mean inner-demons then I suppose you might be somewhat correct. >> ^shinyblurry:
And this is how you can become demon possessed


You have no idea what you're playing around with. You think you're exploring your consciousness, but you are actually exposing your consciousness to manipulation by forces beyond your understanding. The loss of control and immersion into alternate realities is what you have ceded to the enemy to program you for self-destruction.



John 3:19-21

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.