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How to Handle the Police When You're Videotaping

chingalera says...

Good morning.....So VoodooV, simply not a good person...

One might imagine that you've mistaken paranoid rage for a genuine concern for the people who must suffer the damaged, soon beyond-repair law-enforcement establishment in the U.S. While I can't vouch for many municipalities, I have dealt with law enforcement in multiple states since I was old enough to drive a car.
Texas has an inordinate amount of assholes in law enforcement, which has sullied or otherwise affected my opinion of peace officers (that term an oxi-moron for millions of people who have had to deal with profiling, unprovoked aggression, and general douche-baggery from the hind-brained, alpha-or-wannabe-alpha victims of abuse and racism who choose a career in "law enforcement".

We have several versions of cops here, Sheriffs, constables, state troopers, city police, game wardens, etc., all with their privilege and jurisdictions, all with varying levels of professionalism and personalities some of which are synonymous with their particular group.
I maintain, that In ALL of these branches of law enforcement due to corruption and abuse of power as the rule for over 50 years combined with the systematic granting of more and more powers to state over individual rights that the SYSTEM is inherently corrupt and anti-human rights. I have come to this conclusion in my dealings with them personally and by paying attention to the fucking world without blinders and outside of the insular framework of my own perception of how i would LIKE the world to be.

What is your personal experience in dealing with law enforcement robots? Where do you live? What is your station in life economically, socially. Are you Caucasian or a minority? All these questions beg an answer because I suppose that your exposure to the world outside of the comfort of your CONSTRUCT, is causing this consternation and judgement vomited-forth in your last comment, and I would hate to have some skewed opinion of you based on your reaction to mine on issues that have EVERYTHING to do with human rights, justice, blah blah blah, all the shit that's important to people like us, schmoes slaving for paper-tickets to buy more play-time in the world created while you were fast-fucking asleep.

Fix it instead of whining like a spoiled brat??
Well sir, when you live in a country with the majority of peeps fast-asleep with their heads up movie-stars and basketball-player's asses whose political system is a fucking joke and her government co-opted by corporate and security interests then civil disobedience or heaven-forbid, UNCIVIL should the situation necessitate is about the only reasonable, actionable, effective solution for me.
Malcolm X was right, rich, sociopathic white people suck donkey balls and run the whole fucking show.

Would you like to have a discussion on the state of the Prison system in the United States? Hand-in-hand with the men in blue are the men in brown who would, that the current model be expanded and improved upon....It's broken and you have an opinion,??

Please enlighten us all-

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Beastie Boys-Shake Your Rump

eric3579 says...

Good morning! For those who want to sing along.

Now I rock a house party at the drop of a hat
I beat a biter down with an aluminum bat
a lot of people they be Jonesin' just to hear me rock the mic
they'll be staring at the radio
staying up all night
so like a pimp I'm pimpin'
I got a boat to eat shrimp in
Nothing wrong with my leg just B-boy limpin'
Got arrested at the Mardi Gras for jumping on a float
My man MCA's got a beard like a billy goat
oowah oowah is my disco call
MCA hu-huh I'm gettin' rope y'all
Routines I bust rhymes I write
And I'll be busting routines and rhymes all night
Like eating burgers or chicken or you'll be picking your nose
I'm on time homie that's how it goes
You heard my style I think you missed the point
it's the joint

Mike D Yeah?with your bad self running things
What's up with your bad breath onion rings
Well I'm Mike D and I'm back from the dead
Chillin' at the beaches down at Club Med
Make another record 'cause the people they want more of this
Suckers they be saying they can take out Adam Horovitz
Hurricane you got clout
Other DJ's he'll take your head out
A puppet on a string I'm paid to sing or rhyme
Or do my thing I'm
In a lava lamp inside my brain hotel
I might be peakin' or freakin' but I rock well
The Patty Duke the wrench and then I bust the tango
Got more rhymes than Jamaica got Mango Kangols
I got the peg leg at the end of my stump
Shake your rump

Full Clout y'all
Full Clout y'all
And when the mic is in my mouth I turn it out y'all
Full Clout

Never been dumped 'cause I'm the most mackinest
Never been jumped 'cause I'm known the most packinest
Yeah we've got beef chief
We're knocking out teeth chief
And if you don't believe us you should question your belief Keith
Like Sam the butcher bringing Alice the meat
Like Fred Flintstone driving around with bald feet
Should I have another sip no skip it
In the back of the ride and bust with the whippet
Rope a dope dookies all around the neck
Whoo ha got them all in check
Running from the law the press and the parents
Is your name Michael Diamond?
No mine's Clarence
From downtown Manhattan the village
My style is wild and you know that it still is
Disco bag schlepping and you're doing the bump
Shake your rump

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Good Will Hunting - Idiosyncrasies

poolcleaner says...

^ Almost every American sketch comedy show from the late-70s and early-80s, Popeye, Mork & Mindy, Good Morning Vietnam, Dead Poets Society, Baron Munchausen, The Fisher King, Toys, Hook, Aladdin (say what you will about the movie, but his genie is THE genie), Mrs. Doubtfire, The Birdcage (remake), Good Will Hunting, Patch Adams, What Dreams May Come (I liked it at least), One hour Photo, Insomnia (remake), and then there's all of his random, unforgetable guest appearance and talk show circuit adlibbing...

Or do you just mean in recent years?

TDS: Good Morning Real America

NetRunner says...

>> ^VoodooV:

Or are you suggesting that the left just don't give a shit and say fuck'em if they don't be more reasonable, walk away from the negotiating table and commit to a 2nd American Civil War?


Mostly I'm saying the other side has already walked away from the table.

I don't really think they've quite committed to a full-on armed conflict yet, but I really feel like it's just a matter of time.
>> ^VoodooV:
When you step back and realize that all sides think the same thing about the other side, you start to realize just how absurd this shit is and that BOTH SIDES ARE FUCKED UP!!!! If you can't at least be aware of that absurdity...then we're doomed.


But we're not in some sort of mirror-image situation. When examining the policy proposals of Republicans, I generally think "bad policy that will make things get worse over time". Their view of us on the other hand is almost always some apocalyptic nonsense like "it will be the end of freedom," and we've even seen them talk about universal healthcare as if it'll be genocide.

I don't really think I (or the left generally) have all the right answers, or that our way of dealing with issues is the only way to do things. The right on the other hand is certain that their way isn't just the best way, it's the only morally acceptable way for things to be, and they are outraged, OUTRAGED that anyone thinks differently. They see their political preferences not as a mere point of view, but as if they are the natural order of things, and that people who want to do things differently are either a) fools who don't understand how the world works, or b) evil people trying to escape the consequences of their actions.

Mostly these days I think of conservatives as being in one giant cult.

Take a look at this, from Wikipedia's entry on cults:

Studies have identified a number of key steps in coercive persuasion:

  • People are put in physical or emotionally distressing situations;
  • Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized;
  • They receive what seems to be unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader or group;
  • They get a new identity based on the group;
  • They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled.

People who have decided "both sides" are exactly the same will say "but the left is a cult too!" But that flies in the face of reality. What's the "one simple explanation" for everything that liberals have, and always repeat? Do they go around rejecting scientific studies, or economic statistics that don't come from an explicitly liberal source? Hell, is there any sort of strong sense of identity liberals have? Do we give unconditional acceptance to other liberals (hint: watch Cenk Uygur)?

I don't know how we get the right to change their ways, but we won't do it by pretending that the left can fix it by just changing their own behavior.

TDS: Good Morning Real America

TDS: Good Morning Real America

VoodooV says...

>> ^NetRunner:

Part of the problem? That means people like Sarah Palin get the black hat, and people like you & me get white ones, right?
Just goes to show that the liberal media tries to demonize conservatives.
Seriously though, do you think Sarah Palin will take your advice? Or that anyone who idolizes Sarah Palin would? Do you think telling liberals to stop condemning the immoral actions of conservatives would help solve "the problem"?
This isn't some childish bout of namecalling that just got out of hand. They really mean it when they say liberals aren't real Americans. They really mean it when they say they think they're engaged in a noble battle for freedom against an enemy who is trying to take it away.
I think the non-conservatives really need to wake up to the fact that they're not just saying this stuff to get our goats. They really mean it.
>> ^VoodooV:
That's one thing, but when you honestly seem to believe that you're the white hat and the opposition is the black hat, then you've ceased to become part of the solution and have become part of the problem.



Then how do you propose one should go about convincing the right that the left are not mustache twirlers and that the left's fiendishly clever plan for world domination....just doesn't exist. Or are you suggesting that the left just don't give a shit and say fuck'em if they don't be more reasonable, walk away from the negotiating table and commit to a 2nd American Civil War? Which, yes, I am quite fearful will happen in my lifetime the way the vitriol and hate are building. Hell I wouldn't at all be surprised that Obama getting re-elected would tip some of the far right into an armed frenzy.

I'm sorry, but everyone paints themselves as the plucky rebellion fighting the evil empire, everyone thinks their god is the right god. When you step back and realize that all sides think the same thing about the other side, you start to realize just how absurd this shit is and that BOTH SIDES ARE FUCKED UP!!!! If you can't at least be aware of that absurdity...then we're doomed.

TDS: Good Morning Real America

NetRunner says...

Part of the problem? That means people like Sarah Palin get the black hat, and people like you & me get white ones, right?

Just goes to show that the liberal media tries to demonize conservatives.

Seriously though, do you think Sarah Palin will take your advice? Or that anyone who idolizes Sarah Palin would? Do you think telling liberals to stop condemning the immoral actions of conservatives would help solve "the problem"?

This isn't some childish bout of namecalling that just got out of hand. They really mean it when they say liberals aren't real Americans. They really mean it when they say they think they're engaged in a noble battle for freedom against an enemy who is trying to take it away.

I think the non-conservatives really need to wake up to the fact that they're not just saying this stuff to get our goats. They really mean it.
>> ^VoodooV:
That's one thing, but when you honestly seem to believe that you're the white hat and the opposition is the black hat, then you've ceased to become part of the solution and have become part of the problem.



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