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US Navy shoots down Iranian passenger jet
The following is from a Newsweek article read by Sen. Byrd (D, WV) during a congressional hearing on September 20, 2002:
From the beginning of Sen. Byrd's statement:
The full transcript of the Congressional Record can be read here: http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_cr/s092002.html
Mitt Romney's speech: Faith in America
On a side note. In all the speeches I've heard from the candidates, I've never heard Ron Paul pander to a particular crowd. Ron Paul seems to be the most consistent candaidate I've ever heard, seeing that he draws all of his decisions from what the constitution advocates. And while he is also very religious he is the only candidate I think would legislate based on constitutional principals, not his religion.
thanks for acknowledging some of the things that bothered you about his speech. I can see how you would like the comments you outlined in regards to your faith.
I'd like to point out that his comments below would not have come across as pandering (contradictory) if he hadn't excluded those of NO faith.
""I am an American running for President. I do not define my candidacy by my religion. A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith."
"...Each religion has its own unique doctrines and history. These are not bases for criticism but rather a test of our tolerance. Religious tolerance would be a shallow principle indeed if it were reserved only for faiths with which we agree.
It also seems like he does not realize the irony of his comment below. If one looks at how his policy views and his rhetoric have changed over the years and depending on who he is talking to. I would gather that other than dogmatic believers, those who scrutinize his stance on policy issues would infact view him as a "believer of convienience"(in regards to the issues - not talking about faith).
Americans do not respect believers of convenience. Americans tire of those who would jettison their beliefs, even to gain the world."
Mitt Romney's speech: Faith in America
Woah, okay. I don't like "pandering." All the candidates do it, but I don't like it. They all want to do whatever they can to make themselves look good. Whatever they think will help them get elected. Romney's no exception.
It does bother me that Romney doesn't even mention Atheists, that he lifts up Christians above any other Religion, and that some of his statements don't employ sound logic.
I can pick out 5 specific things that I don't like/agree with that any candidate has said in his/her last speech without having to think very hard.
But, there were a lot of things I really appreciated about Romney's speech, as well.
"I am an American running for President. I do not define my candidacy by my religion. A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith.
"Let me assure you that no authorities of my church, or of any other church for that matter, will ever exert influence on presidential decisions. Their authority is theirs, within the province of church affairs, and it ends where the affairs of the nation begin.
"As Governor, I tried to do the right as best I knew it, serving the law and answering to the Constitution. I did not confuse the particular teachings of my church with the obligations of the office and of the Constitution – and of course, I would not do so as President. I will put no doctrine of any church above the plain duties of the office and the sovereign authority of the law.
"As a young man, Lincoln described what he called America's 'political religion' – the commitment to defend the rule of law and the Constitution. When I place my hand on the Bible and take the oath of office, that oath becomes my highest promise to God. If I am fortunate to become your President, I will serve no one religion, no one group, no one cause, and no one interest. A President must serve only the common cause of the people of the United States.
"There are some for whom these commitments are not enough. They would prefer it if I would simply distance myself from my religion, say that it is more a tradition than my personal conviction, or disavow one or another of its precepts. That I will not do. I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it. My faith is the faith of my fathers – I will be true to them and to my beliefs.
"Some believe that such a confession of my faith will sink my candidacy. If they are right, so be it. But I think they underestimate the American people. Americans do not respect believers of convenience. Americans tire of those who would jettison their beliefs, even to gain the world."
"...Each religion has its own unique doctrines and history. These are not bases for criticism but rather a test of our tolerance. Religious tolerance would be a shallow principle indeed if it were reserved only for faiths with which we agree.
"There are some who would have a presidential candidate describe and explain his church's distinctive doctrines. To do so would enable the very religious test the founders prohibited in the Constitution. No candidate should become the spokesman for his faith. For if he becomes President he will need the prayers of the people of all faiths."
These statements are important to me. I'm glad he said them, because I agree that this is how all the candidates should feel.