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Where is this? Those kids at the beginning in the yellow were waving Turkish flags but those people really don't look Turkish.

Germany for sure, the tags say Essen which is a German city, WDR is a German local station, and the Stadion ads are in German.
Also, he seems to have a little difficulty to get the audience to join in... typical Germans...

3 days awake (on drugs)... yep, it's about partying hard all right.

Pille - Palle - Alle Pralle
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff -Druff
Verpeilt und verschallert, alle verballert
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff

Pille - Palle - Alle Pralle
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff -Druff
Verpeilt und verschallert, alle verballert
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff

Auf gehts ab gehts, 3 Tage wach
Nächste Party kommt bestimmt, 3 Tage wach
Afterhour vor der Hour, 3 Tage wach
3 Tage wach jetzt wirst du langsam schwach

Volle Kanne Einwurf, 3 Tage wach
Paniert und ding dong ding dong, 3 Tage wach
Bunte pillen Fete, 3 Tage wach
Puls wie ne Rakete, 3 Tage wach

Punkt Punkt komma klar, 3 Tage wach
Du warst gestern auch schon da, 3 Tage wach
Spieglein an der wand wer ist drei Tage wach?
Du und deine oma sind 3 Tage wach

Nase voll, pimmel schrumpft, 3 Tage wach
essen doof, schlafen doof ,3 Tage wach
banane in der birne, 3 Tage wach
bollerbuden dirndl, 3 Tage wach

Teller bis zum unterkiefer, 3 Tage wach
In der hose ungeziefer, 3 Tage wach
Flasche leer, feuerwehr 3 Tage wach
Laufen geht jetzt auch nicht mehr, 3 Tage wach

Auf gehts ab gehts, 3 Tage wach
Nächste Party kommt bestimmt, 3 Tage wach
Afterhour vor der Hour, 3 Tage wach
3 Tage wach jetzt wirst du langsam schwach

Notfall Apotheke, 3 Tage wach
Rotz auf der Tapete, 3 Tage wach
Verplant , paniert, 3 Tage wach
Völlig ungeniert, 3 Tage wach


Pille - Palle - Alle Pralle
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff -Druf
Verpeilt und verschallert alle verballert
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff

Pille - Palle - Alle Pralle
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff -Druff
Verpeilt und verschallert alle verballert
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff

No, perhaps you should re-read, the bible has NO historical authority. Like a broken clock it can, rarely, be right, but I can't reasonably accept anything from it without outside corroboration

Oh really? So why is that archaelogically, it has proven to be 100 percent historically accurate?

“No archeological discovery has ever controverted [overturned] a Biblical reference. Scores of archeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or in exact detail historical statements in the Bible. And, by the same token, proper evaluation of Biblical descriptions has often led to amazing discoveries.” Nelson Glueck, Rivers in the Desert (Philadelphia, PA: Jewish Publications Society of America, 1969

There have been over 25,000 discoveries which prove its historical accuracy alone. Seems like far from being right accidently, it's always on time.

Sooo...You are claiming that these books have not been under the same copy/editorship for millennia ? My point does not require a by-line match, only that the folks copying (and editing) the canonical versions are in control of both, and have incentive to make them seem more impressive. Are you claiming this was not the case?

Of course I'm claiming its not the case. It also doesn't make any sense. You don't think the jews at the time would notice that people were editing in prophecies later? They were fanatical about these kind of details..so unless you're claiming it was a gigantic conspiracy your view seems illogical. The jews were very careful about copying..the earliest manusciprs we have and the oldest ones have very few discrepencies.

Wow, nice straw split. The portion of the testimony that claims the divinity of jesus is cut from whole cloth, that is what you were talking about, that is a forgery. You wish to interpret it as a testimony of divinity, when the historical record strongly supports the contentions that these parts were not in the original text, and are not attributable to Josephus => forgery.

The vid you post takes the safety position that since the original appears to be about jesus that it is proof of his historicity. The original text, as far as we can reconstruct it, as well as all the other non-fake historical documents don't actually claim that jesus was real or divine, they only convey the story as stated by christians.

I can also state the christian story, as a matter of historical record, without validating it or accepting it myself, the fact that christians existed is not proof that jesus did.

lol..so, when a historian talks about someone in history, its not evidence..what kind of evidence do you want? Photographs?

"Josephus includes information about individuals, groups, customs and geographical places. Some of these, such as the city of Seron, are not referenced in the surviving texts of any other ancient authority. His writings provide a significant, extra-Biblical account of the post-Exilic period of the Maccabees, the Hasmonean dynasty, and the rise of Herod the Great. He makes references to the Sadducees, Jewish High Priests of the time, Pharisees and Essenes, the Herodian Temple, Quirinius' census and the Zealots, and to such figures as Pontius Pilate, Herod the Great, Agrippa I and Agrippa II, John the Baptist, James the brother of Jesus, and a disputed reference to Jesus (for more see Josephus on Jesus). He is an important source for studies of immediate post-Temple Judaism and the context of early Christianity.

A careful reading of Josephus' writings allowed Ehud Netzer, an archaeologist from Hebrew University, to discover the location of Herod's Tomb, after a search of 35 years — above aqueducts and pools, at a flattened, desert site, halfway up the hill to the Herodium, 12 kilometers south of Jerusalem — exactly where it should have been, according to Josephus's writings."

Read that? His writings were so accurate that we were able to find a mans tomb 2000 years later. Turn off your schitzophrenia for a moment. You're claiming Jesus isn't a historical figure, even though this historian, whom you say is accurate for Cyrus, verifies that He is. I'm not talking about whether He is divine, just that He existed. You can't have it both ways. He's a historian who obviously checked his sources..he's isn't telling stories, he is relating facts. You just want to throw the ones you don't happen to agree with.

I see what you did there, let me see if I can recreate your "logic":
1)I claim the testimony has been forged
2)Therefore I must accept Josephus as completely unreliable
3)Therefor the bible is the only source of the story
4)Therefor the claimed historicity of the events depends on the bible
5)Therefor for the Cyrus claim to hold the bible must be divinely inspired

Step 2 does not follow, most of Josephus is considered sound. The fact that your predecessors felt the need to lie in his name does not invalidate all his writings, only those which we have reason to believe have been altered. As it turns out, your boys tended to do a pretty unconvincing job in their historical revisionism.

Again, forget about the divinity claims which were interperlations. He records the existence of the historical person of Jesus. So, if its good enough for Cyrus, its good enough for Jesus. You can't have it both ways. Your pathogical unbelief is amusing, but unwarrented. So your only sources are one that claims Jesus is real, and another that claims God frees the slaves. Again, not helping your case in any respect.

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The German/English Lyrics:

Lützenkirchen - "3 Tage wach" (Three days awake)

Pille - Palle - Alle Prall
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff
Verpeilt und verschallert, alle verballert,
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff

Pills - Balls - Everyone Prall
wasted - wasted - wasted - wasted - wasted
wasted and ?, everyone bombed,
wasted - wasted - wasted - wasted - wasted

Auf gehts ab gehts, 3 Tage wach
Nächste Party kommt bestimmt, 3 Tage wach
Afterhour vor der Hour, 3 Tage wach
3 Tage wach jetzt wirst du langsam schwach

Come on, let's go, three days awake
Next party comes for sure, three days awake
Afterhour before the hour, three days awake
three days awake, you're slowly getting weak

....

volle Kanne einwurf, 3 tage wach
paniert und ding dong ding dong, 3 tage wach
bunte Pillen Fete, 3 Tage wach
Puls wie ne Rakete, 3 Tage wach

Popping all the way, three days awake
trashed and ding dong ding dong, three days awake
colourful pills party, three days awake
pulse like a rocket, three days awake

........

punkt punkt komma klar, 3 Tage wach
du warst gestern auch schon da, 3 Tage wach
spieglein an der Wand wer ist 3 Tage wach
du und deine Oma sind 3 Tage wach

dot dot comma, right, three days awake
yesterday you were here too, three days awake
mirror on the wall, who's there three days awake
you and your grandmother are three days awake

Nase voll, Pimmel schrumpft, 3 Tage wach
Essen doof, Schlafen doof 3 Tage wach
Banane in der Birne, 3 Tage wach
bollerbuden dirndl, 3 Tage wach

nose filled, dick shrinks, three days awake
food sucks, sleep sucks, three days awake
banana in the head, three days awake
bollerbuden drindel (?), three days awake

notfall Apotheke, 3 Tage wach
Rotz auf der Tapete, 3 Tage wach
verplant paniert, 3 Tage wach
völlig ungeniert, 3 Tage wach

emergency pharmacy, three days awake
snot on the wallpaper, three days awake
confused hammered, three days awake
totally unabashed, three days awake

....

Teller bis zum Unterkiefer, 3 tage wach
in der Hose ungeziefer, 3 tage wach
Flasche leer, Feuerwehr 3 tage wach
laufen geht jetzt auch nicht mehr, 3 tage wach

plates until the lower jaw, three days awake
bugs in your underpants, three days awake
bottle empty, fire department, three days awake
I can no longer stand on my feet, three days awake

Pille - Balls - Alle Prall
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff -Druff
Verpeilt und verschallert, alle verballert,
Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff - Druff

Pille - Balls - Everyone Prall
wasted - wasted - wasted - wasted - wasted
wasted and ?, everyone bombed
wasted - wasted - wasted - wasted - wasted

edit: i.e. a slightly corrected version of this translation
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread/t-466396.html