These anti Americans have been saying the same thing since Nov 7 2020. Rooting for economic failure. Economy has gotten better.
1) complain about unemployment until it turns around quickly under Biden.
2) complain about inflation until it starts to lower significantly
3) complain about the measures taken to create historically low unemployment and lower inflation
4) complain about whatever Biden does next because whining is all the right has

bobbie needs things to be a disaster, though. Otherwise Biden looks great and Trump still looks like the disaster movie he was for America.

More nonsense from nonsense people, for nonsense people. This is just for you, Bob, not anyone here.

Yes, duh Bob.
Trump polling at 36% was worse, so you just claimed fake polls. He inherited a strong robust economy, a system to protect from epidemics, far less debt and deficit, and no pandemic…no crisis. I don’t argue Biden’s popular, like you do Trump despite reality, I only argue he’s a vast improvement, the best that could be hoped for under the disastrous circumstances one Trump term put the nation in.

The people coming, largely Haitians, almost all say they’re coming because they saw American politicians say the American borders are open and accepting everyone. Those are Republicans saying that, lying to get their base riled up, but the Haitians living in South America don’t know that, they think they are being invited by the Republicans. Look into it, you’ll see that’s true if you do. Biden sent many back to Haiti, Trump liked to dump them back in Guatemala to try again.
This energy independence myth, just quit. We were not. There was a world wide oil glut in 2020 because the pandemic lowered demand so much suppliers actually gave it away at one point….that was not some genius Trump energy plan bearing fruit, it was the economy and industry collapsing thanks to an avoidable pandemic. As the economy recovers, so does demand but not production. You seem to want to blame Biden for basic economics.
My gas is the same as 2019+-$.25….you want to compare to 2020 because gas was cheap thanks to Covid. Yours might be more for some political reasons, like your unprotected pipeline got hacked by Russians, but you need to prove it, then prove Biden’s failure caused it, not just say it, and not by cutting and pasting some talking head’s opinion. My assessment is he’s improved security on infrastructure but I’m open to evidence to the contrary.

Lowering corporate tax rates didn’t lower unemployment significantly, it raised upper management compensation and corporate profits. Investing in infrastructure will.

That’s good you don’t want to debate more Covid deaths, because there’s more than enough blame for both sides even if you don’t look at 2020 that was all Republican stoked (anti mask, anti social distance, anti contact tracing). Keep in mind, since Jan, >90% of all cases are in the intentionally unvaccinated population, almost 100% of deaths, and remember who they are and who they follow…not Biden. Covid deaths this year are nearly 100% caused by political division and misinformation created and spread by one political side. Guess which. That’s not to say Biden’s perfect, he should have implemented vaccine mandates Jan 21, no exemptions without permanent quarantine, what was needed to stop more deaths by stupidity, but he doesn’t have the balls for dictating. You should be so grateful for that.

Blaming the Chinese without proof, or even evidence they are to blame, just supposition, is outrageously dangerous and provocative. Accusing them of creating and releasing it on purpose….against themselves….is simply asinine and proof you aren’t thinking for yourself or at all.

Mid terms always go to those not in power, so yes, 2022 will likely return congress to partial Republican control, which you will call a massive mandate against Biden unlike when it happened in 2018 and you just whined that it’s unfair.

>26% of Americans are Republicans. The rest are what you call socialist communists because you don’t know what those words mean. Your party does not represent your (alleged) country….and is shrinking. Democrats aren’t even my party, they are just the only achievable adversaries to the madness of the right at this point in time. Given a better option, I would jump….you can’t say the same. You’re deep in the death cult of personality the Right has become…a true believer.

Biden got money no president in my lifetime has to invest in America. Bridges, Roads, Airports, New water systems, Digital communication improvements, Overall improvements and long deferred maintenance of rail, New funding to fight increasing wildfires (Brandon)…all the things absolutely necessary for the nation to function as a first world nation. He’s already a big winner, and if we aren’t speaking Mandarin in 3 years he still will be. The fruits of his legacy will be enjoyed for decades to come, Trump’s legacy is economic failure, failure to protect from a preventable epidemic, massive unemployment, an administration so corrupt that the convictions of people in his administration or campaign almost certainly outnumber the prosecutions of members of all previous administrations combined while the severity of their crimes outweighs the combined national injury caused by all previous political crimes, and a division so strong one party actually tried to destroy democracy and install a dictator.

History is the judge of any administration, not the midterm, and history will look kindly on Biden, no so for Trump, mired in constant criminal scandal and failures to this day. The only president in our history to not peacefully transfer power, to be impeached twice, who clearly put his own interests above those of the nation at every opportunity. Death and division are his legacy.

Merry Mithra’s season.

Victory may be distant still, but it would seem to be inevitable given the current problems of economic failure and climate change.

"resident racist" isn't much of a title. I'd much prefer Resident Racist/Sexist/Capitalist. I'm not doing a very good job....

Thank you for reminding me that THE PRESIDENT has attacked private citizens like Rush Limbaugh. That is far less sanguine than a private citizen calling out the president; criticism comes with the job.

Observation about the Presidency itself. Observation about Obama's failure--IMO--to maintain the dignity of the office.

RACISM: NONE

Thurston hasn't yet learned that in America you define who you are, no one else. If he wants to play the role of victim, that's his choice, there's a whole political party dedicated to winning his vote by defining him as one.

RACISM: only from the patronizing left

Leftists need victims/oppressed to get votes. When there aren't enough victims, they make them. This is born of the foundation of liberalism: powerlessness at the hands of life's lottery, with anyone not a random winner an exploited loser.

If Baratunde "puppies on a hovercraft" Thurston wants to specifically address Blackness in America, shouldn't he be far more incensed at the 70% illegitimacy rate in the Black community, a literal blueprint for cultural and economic failure?

YES IT'S UNPLEASANT, BUT FACTS ARE FACTS. LOOK UP THE STATS. Btw, the overall illegitimacy rate in America across all races is now 40%. Also nothing to celebrate.

AND I call bullshit on BT's "outrage". He's the host of a TV show as well as a paid comic. He may be somewhat upset, but I don't buy for a second he's this thin-skinned; he'd never have made it in the entertainment industry. His potential for happiness is his choice and problem, not yours or mine.

And while we're on the subject, this collective phony "outrage" every time something is read or heard that you disagree with is tiresome. For fck's sake, there aren't enough white sheets in the world to cover everyone the left has accused of racism. Don't you have ANYTHING else to talk about?

RACISM: NONE

@Xaielao It's not Republicans who are frightened, it's conservatives, peeps who understand the Constitution and the assault it's under.

RACISM: NONE

If Trump is a "Klansman" (an outrageous charge) that would make him a democrat.

Thank you for reminding me that THE PRESIDENT has attacked private citizens like Rush Limbaugh. That is far less sanguine than a private citizen calling out the president; criticism comes with the job.

Thurston hasn't yet learned that in America you define who you are, no one else. If he wants to play the role of victim, that's his choice, there's a whole political party dedicated to winning his vote by defining him as one.

If Baratunde "puppies on a hovercraft" Thurston wants to specifically address Blackness in America, shouldn't he be far more incensed at the 70% illegitimacy rate in the Black community, a literal blueprint for cultural and economic failure?

@Xaielao It's not Republicans who are frightened, it's conservatives, peeps who understand the Constitution and the assault it's under.

Not just societies. Individuals, too. A death in the family can bring healing to those left behind. Alcoholics and other addicts sometimes finally get help after they hit bottom.

The human condition.


>> ^legacy0100:

Anthropology professor Dr. Mark Nathan Cohen once told his students that major reforms or utilization of innovation will not take place in a regular every day society. Such innovative or drastic ideas will take place only after 5 major key events have occurred beforehand, which are: famine/economic failure, natural disaster, outbreak of disease, religious conflict and political upheaval.
Basically it means that it takes a disaster for society to drastically change its course ; a time of Crisis.

Anthropology professor Dr. Mark Nathan Cohen once told his students that major reforms or utilization of innovation will not take place in a regular every day society. Such innovative or drastic ideas will take place only after either of these 5 major key events have occurred beforehand, which are: famine/economic failure, natural disaster, outbreak of disease, religious conflict and political upheaval.

Basically it means that it takes a disaster for society to drastically change its course ; a time of Crisis.

>> ^blankfist:
You still didn't give me a better system.

I've got a better system than you -- a regulated market. FDA to keep an eye on food and drugs, OSHA to keep an eye on labor conditions, EPA to monitor environmental impacts, an SEC and FTC to keep an eye on finance and market competition, etc.

Better still, I have a welfare state to make sure that economic failure isn't a death sentence, with unemployment insurance, food stamps, universal health care, social security, disability, etc.

Zillions of times better than anything you've ever talked about wanting.

A completely new system that's totally different from capitalism? I'm not sure what that would look like. I do think we need a sort of redesign of economics around actual human behavior, and not 18th century presumptions about human behavior. I don't think individual monetary gain is the only or even the best motivator of people, and I'm definitely skeptical that the bulk of the resources of the human race should be at the command of people who've accumulated it through sheer ambitious drive to acquire material resources for themselves.

I'm not going to be the revolutionary philosopher-economist who invents what comes next, but I think we're deluding ourselves if we think that everything we ever needed to know about how to form a human society was worked out by the classical economists.

He doesn't understand the current situation in Greece, its public sector is full of inefficiency and lots of phantom job posts, corruption and misleading economic data is rife. It has no relation to the US.

So the US government ISN'T full of inefficiency, phantom jobs, corruption, and misleading economic data? I rather think that Greece's economic failure is very much related to many of the current U.S. economic issues. Greece's economy failed for very simple reasons... It has too many public sector workers who aren't producing anything, and not enough private sector workers to pay the taxes to support the social system. The U.S. is headed that way.

If Greece is bailed out and the first world countries are able to get cheap credit then there is no issue with the unbalanced budget.

The U.S. Housing bubble collapse disagrees... Borrowing money that can't or won't be paid back is horrible economic policy for citizens and governments.

>> ^quantumushroom:
The president is presiding over economic failure. The president is watching it, doing nothing about it.


Well, if nothing else Obama is doing what he thinks is right. It may very well turn out that his policies will cause more harm than good, but he truly seems to believe that he is following the best option available.


As far as conservatives, people follow what they understand. Very few people understand the complexity of economics, but they do understand social issues. Fiscal conservatism will never prevail as long as it is tied to social conservatism. People won't follow "cut spending and taxes" if the same guys are preaching that "gays don't deserve rights" and "stem cell research is murder".

People might follow conservative fiscal policies when they are no longer tied to social issues based on the bible.

>> ^quantumushroom:
This Rush is more important:
The president is presiding over economic failure. The president is watching it, doing nothing about it. He's watching unemployment grow; he's watching the stock market plummet; he is watching people sign up for unemployment. The president of the United States is doing nothing to stop the downward spiral of this economy. He has no economic recovery plan. The truth is, the president of the United States and Rahm Emanuel, who, remember, said, "Crisis is too great a thing to waste." What does that mean? They want you suffering, they want you miserable, they want it worse, they want you rejecting conservatism. They want you rejecting capitalism. They want you turning to them in fear and desperation and angst for an immediate fix to the problem. They want you thinking you have no ability to fix your own problems. They think you have and they want you to have no ability to take care of yourself. So as the stock market now approaches minus 2,800 since Obama was elected, the statement today is to speed up the economic recovery, we're going to focus on health care. Ask yourself how that is going to get you your next job.


Why do I get the impression that that quote and that opinion about that quote comes from a conservative blog? I don't know what he meant, and I could not be bothered dredging up a link for something so irrelevant but if I had to guess it would be something along the lines of creating an opportunity to fund the development of massively underfunded and otherwise crumbling infrastructure by employing those who would have been otherwise left jobless by the layoffs in the construction industry.

How could you possibly think that worsening the situation now will cause people to blame conservatism. They will blame interventionary policy for failing. How could you possibly say that the US president has no recovery plan, have you been living under a rock? You may disagree with it but that does not disprove the former.

How has complete not-intervention combined with consistent tax cuts on the wealthy worked out for you in the past 8 years?

Let me turn your last point back around, how does improving health care not create a more dynamic and competitive work force in the long term and strengthen economic growth?

This Rush is more important:

The president is presiding over economic failure. The president is watching it, doing nothing about it. He's watching unemployment grow; he's watching the stock market plummet; he is watching people sign up for unemployment. The president of the United States is doing nothing to stop the downward spiral of this economy. He has no economic recovery plan. The truth is, the president of the United States and Rahm Emanuel, who, remember, said, "Crisis is too great a thing to waste." What does that mean? They want you suffering, they want you miserable, they want it worse, they want you rejecting conservatism. They want you rejecting capitalism. They want you turning to them in fear and desperation and angst for an immediate fix to the problem. They want you thinking you have no ability to fix your own problems. They think you have and they want you to have no ability to take care of yourself. So as the stock market now approaches minus 2,800 since Obama was elected, the statement today is to speed up the economic recovery, we're going to focus on health care. Ask yourself how that is going to get you your next job.

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