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The Very Worst Driver of The Netherlands Goes Wrong

ant says...

>> ^Sagemind:

He lets go of the wheel to cover his eyes. Great reflexes!
He must have lifted his feet off the pedals as well, because he didn't use the breaks!
(anyone have a translation for this?)


Brakes!

What was the point of this? Driving tests with hot women?

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TEDxCopenhagen - Why We Shouldn't Bike with a Helmet

luxury_pie says...

>> ^DerHasisttot:

>> ^Crosswords:
Um yeah, you know what makes me afraid to ride a bike in my city? Its not the idea of needing a helmet, its seeing the God awful drivers around my city. They have a hard time seeing me and not suddenly pulling into my lane when I'm driving a red 3k pound vehicle. I was in a near miss the other day when the car that had been driving next to me suddenly decided my lane was the one to be in. Our cars got so close I think a gnat that just happened to be between them got squished. So yeah no way in hell I'd ride a bike on the streets of this city. Even where they have bike lanes they've decided to measure about a foot away from the curb and paint a line down the normal street. So bikers have this tiny lane to stick too, and the people in cars, who already have a hard fucking time staying in their own lane, now have less room.
So yeah, I'd wager the rest of the world's cities that aren't so concerned about the danger needing a helmet might produce, and more about the danger of morons driving 2 ton boxes of steel and glass at 50 mph or more and their effect on you if the slam into you.

Are you from the US? If yes, I can understand why you wouldn't wanna ride a bicycle. On different occasions, different US friends of mine noticed independently that there are fewer car accidents in Europe/Germany. Then I researched a bit and found out that US driving tests are far easier than the german tests are; and the US tests are very possibly kept easy to have as many drivers on the roads as possible, influenced by the car and gas-industry.


I would have put it in a slightly different manner (more insults at the driverslicense"agency" what's it called -club) but that's exactly my point.
In Germany you fail the driving test (the actual driving test, not the theory beforehands) if you do one of these things once:
- miss of red light
- entering a one way from the wrong side
- missing a stop-sign
- error of priority in traffic
- ignoring any kind of prohibition sign
- not looking in all mirrors and over shoulder as you switch lines
- no blinking lights as you turn
- blinking lights as you dont turn
- no sign of caution if children, elderly or disabled people are around
- not enough distance to the car in front of you
- and a couple of more things
The test can take up to an hour of driving.
Oh yea the whole thing (driving lessons (theory and driving itself) and tests) costs around a thousand bucks.

If I would feel more save riding a bike here, I would close my eyes, stir with my feet and juggle chainsaws while I enter the AUTOBAHN.

Oh yes and to rejoin the topic: No helmet-campaign I heard of so far. No law against riding without one. Nearly all the children in the city wear one. As they get older they apparently grow out of them.

TEDxCopenhagen - Why We Shouldn't Bike with a Helmet

DerHasisttot says...

>> ^Crosswords:

Um yeah, you know what makes me afraid to ride a bike in my city? Its not the idea of needing a helmet, its seeing the God awful drivers around my city. They have a hard time seeing me and not suddenly pulling into my lane when I'm driving a red 3k pound vehicle. I was in a near miss the other day when the car that had been driving next to me suddenly decided my lane was the one to be in. Our cars got so close I think a gnat that just happened to be between them got squished. So yeah no way in hell I'd ride a bike on the streets of this city. Even where they have bike lanes they've decided to measure about a foot away from the curb and paint a line down the normal street. So bikers have this tiny lane to stick too, and the people in cars, who already have a hard fucking time staying in their own lane, now have less room.
So yeah, I'd wager the rest of the world's cities that aren't so concerned about the danger needing a helmet might produce, and more about the danger of morons driving 2 ton boxes of steel and glass at 50 mph or more and their effect on you if the slam into you.


Are you from the US? If yes, I can understand why you wouldn't wanna ride a bicycle. On different occasions, different US friends of mine noticed independently that there are fewer car accidents in Europe/Germany. Then I researched a bit and found out that US driving tests are far easier than the german tests are; and the US tests are very possibly kept easy to have as many drivers on the roads as possible, influenced by the car and gas-industry.

The Difference Speeding Makes

CrushBug says...

I always have mixed feelings about these kinds of PSAs. On the one hand, yes traveling slower shortens your stopping distance. On the other hand, there are a whole bunch of factors that go into the speed you travel at on any given road. The issue above was straight-line braking and I have avoided accidents due to being able to maneuver my vehicle. Also, I noticed that the faster car hit the side edge of the tail bumper which would cause massive damage, while the slower car hit the side safely panel on the truck. Pretty sure the faster car wouldn't have had so much damage if it had hit the same panel. I think they did this intentionally for dramatic effect. I think this actually takes away from their message.

What is the posted speed limit? What is the commonly understood speed limit? Highway 2 south of Edmonton is posted as 110 km/h (~68 mph). Common speed that most people travel at is 130 km/h (~80 mph). Is that a problem? No, not really. Everyone going at around the same speed works fine. People going 90 or 150 are the problem. The RCMP don't even pull you over unless you are traveling unsafely (fast lane changes or traveling over 130). I have driven through about 20 speed traps on Highway 2 at 130 and have never been pulled over.

Am I a good driver? Sorta. I know of a handful of friends who are better than me, including my wife. I am attentive and I know how to spot danger and how to avoid it. I maintain my vehicle and make sure that all steering, braking and yes, acceleration systems are in good working order. I have rarely used my cell phone when driving and when there are complicated road sections I usually stop talking and ignore any passengers to focus on the driving. I believe that this is why I haven't had a traffic accident in 15 years, but have avoided many. Speed is always a factor in accidents, but it is rarely the sole cause.

The vehicle is also a factor. I have driven down a 4 lane road marked 60 km/h and have checked my speed in my car and I am doing 80. That speed felt safe to me. I have driven that same road in my parent's van and have checked my speed at it felt like I was speeding at 55. I know that van accelerates, brakes and steers much worse than my car.

I believe that one of the biggest factors is driver training. I hate the fact that it takes almost no skill to get a driver's license and that there are no re-tests or other requirements. When I worked at a big chemical plant, long ago, fork lift drivers had all kinds of training and driving tests and re-tests to make sure they were operating safely. Almost all accidents had a root cause in a lack of training or experience and corrective action was taken. Drivers on the road? Whatever, just let them answer 10 multiple-choice questions and give them a plastic card with no follow-up. Drive safely!

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Kid Fails His Driving Test 5 Times In One Day...

Truck Fail Compilation

HollywoodBob says...

>> ^PostalBlowfish:
Take this idea further. Intelligence and emotional maturity tests in addition to the driving test, every two years, for EVERY driver of EVERY vehicle. Many drivers are just as dangerous as this. Oh, and yes I can see how a compilation of just the worst moments in the lives of some truck drivers should be taken as the baseline average of truck driving. Seriously? Really?
You are probably more dangerous in whatever you drive than the average truck driver. And you get away with having far less responsibility on the road than they have. I think if I decide to just drive my car into a random truck when they can do nothing to avoid it, they will be seen by law as the responsible party.


I'd be in favor of basing drivers licensing on more factors than merely rote memorization of a skinny pamphlet of mostly common sense rules. As well as periodic recertification for all drivers.

I'm sure I'm likely remembering the numbers incorrectly but, something like only 4% of all traffic accidents involve a big rig, and of those only 25% are the fault of the tractor trailer driver. So 1% of all traffic accidents are the fault of a semi-truck driver. Mind you, I admit that my numbers are probably off, but I don't believe that they're that far off.

Truck Fail Compilation

PostalBlowfish says...

>> ^Nithern:
Intelligence tests should be given to all drivers across the board. As this video and many others prove, just how smart the average yahoo driver is these days. In fact, many states are considering setting a drivers test for those 65+. I would argue that it applies to all ages of drivers.


Take this idea further. Intelligence and emotional maturity tests in addition to the driving test, every two years, for EVERY driver of EVERY vehicle. Many drivers are just as dangerous as this. Oh, and yes I can see how a compilation of just the worst moments in the lives of some truck drivers should be taken as the baseline average of truck driving. Seriously? Really?

You are probably more dangerous in whatever you drive than the average truck driver. And you get away with having far less responsibility on the road than they have. I think if I decide to just drive my car into a random truck when they can do nothing to avoid it, they will be seen by law as the responsible party.

"How to fail a sobriety test."

"How to fail a sobriety test."



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