Oh, troll, you can be quite interesting on occasion. This is not one of those occasions.

>> ^CaptainPlanet420:
>> ^thinker247:
Hate and curse?
Which of my words made you think of hate? Was it calling you a moron? if so, that was merely my use of a noun to describe your mental state. Not really hatred, but more of genuine bemusement as to how a human being can be so moronic.
And the cursing? That was merely me using a transitive verb to describe how much of a fucking troll you are. So it wasn't a curse, per se.
>> ^CaptainPlanet420:
Ah yes, when all else fails, hate and curse at your opponent. If you so desire not to pay taxes, go live on a desert island and enjoy your coveted anarchy. And don't cry when you don't have anyone to take care of you. I'd love to hear an intelligent solution for things like defense and the legal system without taxes. Please, son, enlighten me.


I'll accept that non-response as an admission of losing.

>> ^thinker247:
Hate and curse?
Which of my words made you think of hate? Was it calling you a moron? if so, that was merely my use of a noun to describe your mental state. Not really hatred, but more of genuine bemusement as to how a human being can be so moronic.
And the cursing? That was merely me using a transitive verb to describe how much of a fucking troll you are. So it wasn't a curse, per se.
>> ^CaptainPlanet420:
Ah yes, when all else fails, hate and curse at your opponent. If you so desire not to pay taxes, go live on a desert island and enjoy your coveted anarchy. And don't cry when you don't have anyone to take care of you. I'd love to hear an intelligent solution for things like defense and the legal system without taxes. Please, son, enlighten me.



I'll accept that non-response as an admission of losing.

Hate and curse?

Which of my words made you think of hate? Was it calling you a moron? if so, that was merely my use of a noun to describe your mental state. Not really hatred, but more of genuine bemusement as to how a human being can be so moronic.

And the cursing? That was merely me using a transitive verb to describe how much of a fucking troll you are. So it wasn't a curse, per se.

>> ^CaptainPlanet420:
Ah yes, when all else fails, hate and curse at your opponent. If you so desire not to pay taxes, go live on a desert island and enjoy your coveted anarchy. And don't cry when you don't have anyone to take care of you. I'd love to hear an intelligent solution for things like defense and the legal system without taxes. Please, son, enlighten me.

>> ^thinker247:
You choose to pay your taxes? And you choose where they are dispersed? Sure thing, moron.
And don't call me son, you fucking troll.
>> ^CaptainPlanet420:
Son, son, son...maybe go to dictionary.com or something and rethink that awful waste of words you just had. The taxes we pay are figured out by a bunch of people that we the Mario van Peoples elect. We choose to pay taxes for things like infrastructure and oh wait, defense and stuff. Chosen taxes for necessities aren't socialistic. Your argument for Obama fails miserably. Go look up lots of government word definitions.



Ah yes, when all else fails, hate and curse at your opponent. If you so desire not to pay taxes, go live on a desert island and enjoy your coveted anarchy. And don't cry when you don't have anyone to take care of you. I'd love to hear an intelligent solution for things like defense and the legal system without taxes. Please, son, enlighten me.

Too much gristle...

>> ^ponceleon:
>> ^DrPawn:
If I was on a desert island for 10 years I wouldnt do her. (I might do a cod up that ass tho)

I wouldn't have a problem resorting to canibalism though...

>> ^DrPawn:
If I was on a desert island for 10 years I wouldnt do her. (I might do a cod up that ass tho)


She'd probably lose a lot of weight after 10 years. Although who can resist the sultry come hither look of a cod.

>> ^DrPawn:
If I was on a desert island for 10 years I wouldnt do her. (I might do a cod up that ass tho)


I wouldn't have a problem resorting to canibalism though...

If I was on a desert island for 10 years I wouldnt do her. (I might do a cod up that ass tho)

>> ^rougy:
>> ^imstellar28:
It should be noted that "the right to life" as I define it, is compatible with helping others, as people who are free to sustain their own life, are also free to choose to sustain the lives of others. However, if you define it as the socialists, you necessarily have to sustain the lives of others not out of choice, but of obligation, which I find to be considerably less noble.

Maybe.
One may be "obliged" to stop at a four-way intersection, or one can be noble and just blow right through, since it undermines his fundamental "right to life."
It would seem to me that adhering to a set of rules that either leads to, or encourages, a stronger, safer society would be far and away more noble than to belly-ache about being "obliged" to follow them.
Tell me...if one of the people in your example scenario has nothing to trade, does he lose his "right to life"?
(good post, by the way)


In a scenario where an individual has nothing (tangible) to trade, he would still possess the right to life so long as he exists in a social context. Holding the right to life, and thus the right to property, he has the freedom to claim ownership over items not in yet under the ownership of other individuals, and to utilize those items to sustain his life. If no such items are readily available, he is free to exchange his services (labor) or information (ideas) directly for food and water, or intermediate forms such as currency. The latter is the route most individuals take to sustain their lives.

As far as living beings that do not exist in a social context: consider a shipwrecked sailor who lands on a deserted island. He does not necessarily have the right to life because no social interaction is possible, but at the same time he does not need any rights because there are no other individuals present to violate his freedom of action.

Have you read all three? I've never read Atlas Shrugged. I am sure it is good, but I'm just not a huge fan of fiction.

In reply to this comment by bamdrew:
btw, I'd take "Atlas Shrugged" to the proverbial desert island well before "For The New Intellectual" or "The Virtue of Selfishness" ... so that is another point that, when thought too much about, may speak to the contention between us on the individual vs. community debate.

I've got two off the top of my head:

Superman is flying around the city, horny as all get out. He stops Aqua-man.
"Hey Aqua-man, where an I get some good pussy?"
Aqua-man says, "I was swimming by this island that's a hundred miles away and saw Wonder Woman sunbathing nude."
"Nah, I don't want to fly that far..." says Superman.
So he flies around some more and runs across Batman. "Hey Batman, where can I find some good pussy?" Batman says, "I was flying by this deserted island a hundred miles away and I saw Wonder Woman..."
"Gah! I've already heard that one," exclaims Superman. So he flys around the city some more and runs across Spider-man. "Hey Spidy, where can I find some good pussy?"
"Well, I heard that Wonder Woman..."
"Ah, hell," Superman shouts. "Fuck it. I'll fly the hundred miles."

So he flies out to the island, and he's hovering above it and sure enough, there's Wonder Woman, lying on the beach nude, spread eagle. Superman thinks, 'Well how can I fuck her and still have her respect me? .... I know! I'll fly down, fuck her at lightspeed, and she'll never know what happened!'
So he flies down, fucks her at lightspeed and flys off.

Wonder Woman is laying there and says, "What the fuck was that?" And the Invisible Man says "I don't know but my ass sure hurts..."



And second...

What's a 6.9?
A sixty-nine interrupted by a period.

[minor spoiler if you haven't watched the clip] It's the "There." at the end of this bit that gets me. It's as though she's saying "I've told off my proselytizing a-holes for today. What's next on the list?" [/minor spoiler]

And Aemaehth, I couldn't agree with you less. This movie beams happy thoughts directly into my brainmeats. An imported copy of this on dvd (before it was available in the states) was the best xmas gift I've received in many years.

Ron Jeremy makes any (non-porn) movie awesome, at least from what I've seen. This and Boondock Saints are both on my short list of desert island candidates.

Have always wondered what it would be like to be in a similar field of endeavor-task-oriented, a single goal in mind, working day and night focused diligently on one project, one set of repeated actions.....the distractions and cares of the world non-existent while pushing forward into uncharted territory...surrounded by others with tasks similar to mine, all of us dedicated to reaching new horizons in our chosen disciplines.......But insects don't live that long, and DocM's here so folks like me can chase poontang and gamble.

Don't let the lack of action on yer moment here in the spotlight get ya down Doc, there are others here on the sift as uni-dimensional as yerself....It's hard to roast a cabbage y', gotta add so much flavor to it-like being on a desert island....("Will I eat fish and coconut, or fish and seaweed today???)

Speakin' a fish-glad to know you got yerself' a couple of fellas that you hang out with regularly that share similar interests and diversions...
Rob Roys and Starbucks eh??? Was it that girl you stalk that inspired you to be so......cosmopolitan???

" Sadly, you just can't do biology without animals."....Spoken like a true Onanist. If you took an ultraviolet light over to DocM's pad and dropped some good LSD, his bedroom would look like the stage backdrop at a Jefferson Airplane concert....

when he first got here, his first published post renewed my faith in cartoons being able to explain the obvious-I learned most of what I know from animated explanations of simple phenomenon as well-Now that we are clear on exactly what happened on 9-11...thanks for clearing that up for everyone.....

Yer a great sport DocM, man may the rest of your roast be good for you as well...Afterwards, you might ask Rosy Palm if it was good for her and her five sisters, too....

I don't--never have, never will--get this. I love Floyd; Darkside should clearly be in any respectable top 10 desert island albums. I also love the deviousness and creepiness of the Wizard of Oz story and folklore. But the mashing is totally lost on me. I mean, other than tangentially at best ~4:00, can anyone point to how the music and video match AT ALL here? Or in any other part of this fabricated nonsense?

ok, i have a stick. Now where do i find a deserted island paradise so i can plant it in the sand and find North?