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Monsanto man claims it's safe to drink, refuses a glass.

MilkmanDan says...

My family owns and operates a farm, wheat and corn, in Kansas. We use Roundup herbicides sometimes.

Specifically, there is a GMO variant of field corn called "Roundup Ready" where the corn is genetically resistant to the herbicide. Plant a field of that corn, then after it emerges but well before harvesting (obviously) spray it with Roundup, diluted to an appropriate level. All of the pest plants in the field die. The corn looks a little wilted / harried for a few days after spraying, but bounces back and grows out just fine.

We use that specific kind (Roundup Ready) about 1 year out of every 4 or 5, only when pest plants are starting to become an issue. They'd love to sell it to farmers every year, but most only rotate it in when necessary, just like us, and use a small amount of normal seed (not GMO, just some of the normal corn we harvest) held in reserve from previous year(s) in the other years.

Before Roundup (and other major herbicides and pesticides), pest plants could be a major problem. From what my family says, corn can cross-pollinate or do some kind of hybridization with other crops like milo or sorghum or something, which results in a sterile cane-stalk plant like corn that produces no actual grain. Back 20+ years ago, that was a fairly major problem ... but it is very easily controlled nowadays with herbicides, and Roundup in particular.

Pure, concentrated Roundup is pretty nasty stuff. Then again, farmers still use or have used a lot of much nastier stuff during normal farm operations, like Malathion being sprinkled into grain bins to kill off insects and other small pests. I wouldn't want to chug down a glass full of any of that crap, BUT on the other hand I think we're way better as the human race off WITH all these things being used to control what can be or have been significantly damaging pests than how things would be WITHOUT them. Not to mention that all of these things are used in very very trace amounts compared to the actual amount of food produced itself, and usually a *really* long time before it becomes food. I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to detect any of them in the parts-per-multi-multi-billion scale by them time we eat them.


...That being said, the dude walked right in to this one. If his message was "this stuff is 100% safe and beneficial if used properly", I'd actually 100% agree with him. But when he's trying to oversell it by saying that it is perfectly safe to drink a glass of it ... of course somebody is going to call his bluff. Duh.

Junkyard Turbo Chevy Datsun 240Z Autocross Thrash - Roadkill

enoch says...

i did some mural work years ago and they paid me some cash and a modified 77 280Z.

and when i say modified,i mean MODIFIED.
brand new straight 6 with a cam,1800 stall converter and porsche transmission and linkage.

it looked very similar to the 240 in this video.
was a total rust bucket.
the suspension was toast and the u-joints were all bad.
no muffler....just a straight pipe ..yeah..that baby was LOUD.
chug chug CHUG chug chug....
didnt even have a key for the ignition,started it with a screwdriver.

but holy hell could it move on a straight away.
mustang GT's were my favorite to embarrass.
i would stay with em till they hit 4th gear (round 50 mph) and i would hit second,chirp the tires and wave...buh bye....

man,now that i think about it...
how am i still alive?
damn car was a death trap.

Barseps (Member Profile)

Enjoying a 20 year old Crystal Pepsi

Thomas Ricks describes Fox News to Fox News. Tis luverly!

quantumushroom says...

Counterbalancing the liberal propaganda machine doesn't make FOX the opposite, it just makes it stand out against the former Fourth Estate, now nothing more than shills for taxocrats.

Long before FOX, all media minus a few papers were biased in favor of liberals.

It's that much more embarrassing for the left that the only media they challenge is FOX while chugging the Kool-Aid of every other "news" outlet (and Hollywood).

xxovercastxx said:

At least you've finally concluded that FOX is a propaganda campaign. The next question you need to tackle is why you think dueling propaganda machines is a good thing?

I would much rather see honest news come back and have all the propaganda marginalized. I would call that a very obvious need; propaganda from all angles, not so much.

Caffeine!! - Bite Sci-zed

Just a Normal Looking Guy Chugging a Snapple. Yeeyay!

Boise_Lib (Member Profile)

World Record 33cl Bottle Beer Chug - (3.298 seconds)

How To Chug A $260 Bottle Of Champagne In 1 Minute.

How To Chug A $260 Bottle Of Champagne In 1 Minute.

How To Chug A $260 Bottle Of Champagne In 1 Minute.

How To Chug A $260 Bottle Of Champagne In 1 Minute.

enoch (Member Profile)

shuac says...

Of course I've seen it, Mammy-Rammer. The best acting job in the film goes to Christopher Lloyd, for his speech about the old man that died when Jimmy was trying to give him the plane tickets. Buckwheats, chugging cock, bitches bastard: the film is infinitely quotable.

<shuac holds up his hand> Boat drinks, enoch.

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"things to do in denver when your dead"

My dead what?


fixed ya bitch.
you ever seen it? its pretty awesome.
i was tryin to find the scene with treat williams and steve buscemi.
"your reputation far exceeds your skills" but i only found it buried in a much longer clip.

Awesome Looking Star Wars Touchscreen Game.

jmd says...

At first I thought they were using empire at war as the engine, but it does indeed look 2d so it is totally custom. Unfortunately it is kinda sad too, there is no excuse for that display to be chugging like that for 2d images (yes, even at a super high resolution wall display like this, todays consumer CPUs would make hundreds of thousands of 2d objects a joke to throw around).

As for the interface, well to be fair, the people who created this demonstration are probably not game creators. The interface looks nothing more then a simplistic method of choosing what ship types to spawn for an unwinable demonstration battle. In a real game things would be more stream lined. Empire at war is a good example of that. Alot of options can be automated, much like what would happen in a real battle, would you be the fleet commander and not worrying about the deployment of tie fighters from destroyers.

>> ^frizlefry:

Fingerprints on my screen and inefficient slow controls with the possibility of repetitive stress injuries? Sign me up!


Btw friz, welcome to 2011, with millions of touch phones and tablets all over the world being used. Todays glass can be coated in a way where thumb prints don't cause to much of an issue. May be a slight prismatic look when sweaty, but people have no problems enjoying gaming on them. The touch interface shown here is far more superior then a gamepad or mouse could do. Having one hand on a keyboard to help facilitate issuing command types with your next touch could easily be handled with an onscreen panel too.



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