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Pressure point Self-defence - brings the pain quickly

Deano says...

Best I can do! Formatting of comments can go horribly wrong...
I think Danny's replies are at the bottom but you can put them at the top. This is why the order here looks a bit odd.

Missing BR tag before "I know" by the way.


>> ^Locque:
I know, I've been studying martial arts for a long time, from teachers I now recognise to be charlatans, others I know now to be misguided, and guys now that currently have me convinced their style and training method is optimal. I'm not outright calling this fake- I don't know enough to do so. But I'd definitely be suspicious that the acting is being hammed up for the video to make the techniques appear more effective against a determined attacker than they might otherwise be in real life. Just as you guys say don't be so quick to dismiss, I'd counter with "Don't be so quick to believe." I've had teachers who could make me flinch in agony with little effort showcasing their techniques, but who I am pretty sure were we to meet right now, as out of shape as I am, I'd probably win if we fought.
On a lighter note: HELP! I'M TRAPPED IN HERE! SOMEONE TEACH ME ABOUT FORMATTING!



>> ^Deano:
My take is that one shouldn't be too quick to refute this. All my watching of martial arts/self-defence clips suggests that the highly trained know how to apply force precisely, quickly and very effectively.



>> ^dannym3141:
^ Yeah. I mean, imagine spending all of your waking hours learning that, in the same way as anyone else might have a job?





Pressure point Self-defence - brings the pain quickly

Locque says...

>> ^Deano:

My take is that one shouldn't be too quick to refute this. All my watching of martial arts/self-defence clips suggests that the highly trained know how to apply force precisely, quickly and very effectively.


>> ^dannym3141:

^ Yeah. I mean, imagine spending all of your waking hours learning that, in the same way as anyone else might have a job?



I know, I've been studying martial arts for a long time, from teachers I now recognise to be charlatans, others I know now to be misguided, and guys now that currently have me convinced their style and training method is optimal. I'm not outright calling this fake- I don't know enough to do so. But I'd definitely be suspicious that the acting is being hammed up for the video to make the techniques appear more effective against a determined attacker than they might otherwise be in real life. Just as you guys say don't be so quick to dismiss, I'd counter with "Don't be so quick to believe." I've had teachers who could make me flinch in agony with little effort showcasing their techniques, but who I am pretty sure were we to meet right now, as out of shape as I am, I'd probably win if we fought.
On a lighter note: HELP! I'M TRAPPED IN HERE! SOMEONE TEACH ME ABOUT FORMATTING!

Pressure point Self-defence - brings the pain quickly

Deano says...

>> ^Locque:

>> ^robv:
I'm no expert but it also looks real to me. My dad was always about pressure points. Which made for occasionally painful roughhousing. I wonder how this guy would handle the whole crazy knife wielding attacker thing -
http://videosift.com/video/What-knife-fights-are-really-like
>> ^Locque:
This looks fake, or exaggerated to me. The constant flinching and dropping/groaning would make him a serious asshole for inflicting such pain unnecessarily, but it also seems reminiscent of the wing chun tap-tap-tap style of fighting, which isn't really effectve, afaik, although this guy seems to target perhaps more legitimate pressure points,but I wouldn't know, I'm far from an expert. Either way, this triggered my sceptic alarm.


>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^Locque:
This looks fake, or exaggerated to me. The constant flinching and dropping/groaning would make him a serious asshole for inflicting such pain unnecessarily, but it also seems reminiscent of the wing chun tap-tap-tap style of fighting, which isn't really effectve, afaik, although this guy seems to target perhaps more legitimate pressure points,but I wouldn't know, I'm far from an expert. Either way, this triggered my sceptic alarm.

I do think he's properly hitting the guy though. And he's hitting some pretty delicate places too. Catching the liver is seriously uncomfortable. I think the hits are real and i think the reactions are real but whether this would be any use i have no idea. I mean we can all have someone stand there whilst we hit them and cause pain, that's not the hard bit

Watch how he reacts when hit in the bicep. I've taken some heavy blows to the bicep like that while studying under some less legitimate teachers, and the reaction's never been as strong as it was for that guy. I'm such a novice that I honestly can't call this for being BS or ineffective, but this still has alarm bells ringing. Other stuff, like being punched in the ribs or smacked in the throat, are kinda no-brainers, they do hurt. Although the guy being repeatedly dropped by that punch in the abdomen through the shield still seems exaggerated.


My take is that one shouldn't be too quick to refute this. All my watching of martial arts/self-defence clips suggests that the highly trained know how to apply force precisely, quickly and very effectively.

Pressure point Self-defence - brings the pain quickly

Locque says...

>> ^robv:

I'm no expert but it also looks real to me. My dad was always about pressure points. Which made for occasionally painful roughhousing. I wonder how this guy would handle the whole crazy knife wielding attacker thing -
http://videosift.com/video/What-knife-fights-are-really-like
>> ^Locque:
This looks fake, or exaggerated to me. The constant flinching and dropping/groaning would make him a serious asshole for inflicting such pain unnecessarily, but it also seems reminiscent of the wing chun tap-tap-tap style of fighting, which isn't really effectve, afaik, although this guy seems to target perhaps more legitimate pressure points,but I wouldn't know, I'm far from an expert. Either way, this triggered my sceptic alarm.



>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^Locque:
This looks fake, or exaggerated to me. The constant flinching and dropping/groaning would make him a serious asshole for inflicting such pain unnecessarily, but it also seems reminiscent of the wing chun tap-tap-tap style of fighting, which isn't really effectve, afaik, although this guy seems to target perhaps more legitimate pressure points,but I wouldn't know, I'm far from an expert. Either way, this triggered my sceptic alarm.

I do think he's properly hitting the guy though. And he's hitting some pretty delicate places too. Catching the liver is seriously uncomfortable. I think the hits are real and i think the reactions are real but whether this would be any use i have no idea. I mean we can all have someone stand there whilst we hit them and cause pain, that's not the hard bit


Watch how he reacts when hit in the bicep. I've taken some heavy blows to the bicep like that while studying under some less legitimate teachers, and the reaction's never been as strong as it was for that guy. I'm such a novice that I honestly can't call this for being BS or ineffective, but this still has alarm bells ringing. Other stuff, like being punched in the ribs or smacked in the throat, are kinda no-brainers, they do hurt. Although the guy being repeatedly dropped by that punch in the abdomen through the shield still seems exaggerated.

Pressure point Self-defence - brings the pain quickly

robv says...

I'm no expert but it also looks real to me. My dad was always about pressure points. Which made for occasionally painful roughhousing. I wonder how this guy would handle the whole crazy knife wielding attacker thing -

http://videosift.com/video/What-knife-fights-are-really-like

>> ^Locque:

This looks fake, or exaggerated to me. The constant flinching and dropping/groaning would make him a serious asshole for inflicting such pain unnecessarily, but it also seems reminiscent of the wing chun tap-tap-tap style of fighting, which isn't really effectve, afaik, although this guy seems to target perhaps more legitimate pressure points,but I wouldn't know, I'm far from an expert. Either way, this triggered my sceptic alarm.

Pressure point Self-defence - brings the pain quickly

dannym3141 says...

>> ^Locque:

This looks fake, or exaggerated to me. The constant flinching and dropping/groaning would make him a serious asshole for inflicting such pain unnecessarily, but it also seems reminiscent of the wing chun tap-tap-tap style of fighting, which isn't really effectve, afaik, although this guy seems to target perhaps more legitimate pressure points,but I wouldn't know, I'm far from an expert. Either way, this triggered my sceptic alarm.


I do think he's properly hitting the guy though. And he's hitting some pretty delicate places too. Catching the liver is seriously uncomfortable. I think the hits are real and i think the reactions are real but whether this would be any use i have no idea. I mean we can all have someone stand there whilst we hit them and cause pain, that's not the hard bit

Pressure point Self-defence - brings the pain quickly

Father Spanks Man for Having Sex with His Underage Daughter

Porksandwich says...

Guess if you were into pain, you could go for the daughter for the sex and have the dad bring the pain.

Think requesting another man let you spank him is kind of........not where most guy's mind would have gone in terms of punishment especially with your bare hand and on film.

The Flame Sift-Warriors Project (Parody Talk Post)

"Arica" A Special BFBC2 Musical Tribute

littlewoodenboy says...

Original Song: "Africa" Performed by Toto

Lyrics:

I hear a gunshot echo in the night
It's quiet here on Nelson Bay when wookies get their camp on
I take him out with my 4x Noob sight But he'll be back
To piss me off as soon as he can respawn

I see a camping asshole in our base
Waiting to steal our chopper so he can fly around and rape us
I take my engineer kit in my hand and say
Hurry Boys! The Hind is after you!

Chorus:
Gonna take more than Black Ops to drive me away from you
Ain't nothing that a million C4 Whores could ever do
Let's bring the pain down in Arica
While we're at it let's tear them a new one on Port Valdez Too

Gonna squad up and play some rush tonight
Hoping to find a lobby that isn't mostly full of douchebags
C4 on the UAV ain't right, If that's their plan
We'll raid their base and steal the driver's dog tags
Better fall back 'cause victory's in sight
Hurry Boys! The Tank is after you!

Chorus

Jimmy Carr checks his text messages

rasch187 says...

^ I'd say you're way off. This is half the length of the other vid and is focused on one specific subject. That other vid was sifted as part 2 of a whole show and those two vids should be considered one vid imo. But either way, there are many other cases of stuff like this around the sift. If this were a dupe you might as well * dupeof all stand up acts with clips from full shows that have been sifted before.

Like these:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Chris-Rock-Bring-the-Pain-1
http://www.videosift.com/video/Chris-Rock-Bigger-and-Blacker
http://www.videosift.com/video/Eddie-Izzard-Dress-To-Kill-full-show
http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Hicks-Relentless

and so on...

Jesse Ventura body slams Sean Hannity

HollywoodBob says...

I keep expecting Jesse to just knock out one of these bobble-heads. You can see in his eyes the spark of a righteous ass whopping just waiting to be delivered.

Jesse give in to your instinct and bring the pain!

Method Man - Bring the Pain

MrFisk says...

I came to bring the pain hardcore from the brain
Let's go inside my astral plane
Find out my mental's based on instrumental
records hey, so I can write monumental
Methods, I'm not the King
But niggaz is decaf I stick em for the CREAM
check it, just how deep can shit get
Deep as the abyss and brothers is mad fish accept it
In your Cross Colour, clothes you've crossed over
Then got Totally Krossed Out and Kris Kross
Who da boss? Niggaz get tossed to the side
And I'm the dark side of the Force
Of course it's the Method, Man from the Wu-Tang Clan
I be hectic, and comin for the head piece protect it
Fuck it, two tears in a bucket, niggaz want the ruckus
Bustin at me bruh, now bust it
Styles, I gets buckwild
Method Man on some shit, pullin niggaz files
I'm sick, insane, crazy, Drivin Miss Daisy
Out her fuckin mind now I got mine I'm Swayze

Brothers want to hang with the Meth bring the rope
the only way you hang is by the neck nigga poke
off the set comin to your projects
Take it as a threat, better yet it's a promise
Comin from a vet on some old Vietnam shit
Nigga you can bet your bottom dollar hey I bomb shit
And it's gonna get even worse word to God
It's the Wu comin through sickin niggaz for they garments
Movin on your left, southpaw em it's the Meth
Came to represent and carve my name in your chest
You can come test realize you're no contest
Son I'm the gun that won that old Wild West
Quick on the draw with my hands on the four
nine three eleven with the rugged rhymes galore
Check it cause I think not when this hip-hops like proper
Rhymes be the proof while I'm drinkin 90 proof
Huh vodka, no OJ, no straw
When you give it to me aiy, give it to me raw
I've learned when you drink Absolut straight it burns
Enough to give my chest hairs a perm
I don't need a chemical blow to pull a hoe
All I need is Chemical Bank to pay da mo'
What, basically that, Meth-Tical, ninety-four style
Word up we be hazardous *car crashing* *horn passing me*
Northern spicy brown mustard hoes
We have to stick you

Personal Queue Amnesty Day(s) (Sift Talk Post)

kulpims says...

I'm keeping this, folks. The rest is yours to upvote.


some quality videos from my pq that got overlooked:


9 votes
http://www.videosift.com/video/Mad-Magazine-profiled-on-60-Minutes
http://www.videosift.com/video/American-Experience-Geronimo-and-the-Apache-Resistance
http://www.videosift.com/video/Lee-Ritenour-George-Duke-Marcus-Miller-Its-On
http://www.videosift.com/video/Noam-Chomsky-Rebel-Without-A-Pause
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jim-Jeffries-Comedy-Store-London

8 votes
http://www.videosift.com/video/Welcome-to-the-Desert-of-the-Real
http://www.videosift.com/video/Howard-Bloom-The-Lucifer-Principle-and-human-evolution
http://www.videosift.com/video/Squirt-2-Advanced-Turbine-Jet-Boat-Project
http://www.videosift.com/video/Robin-Williams-On-American-Idol-2008

worth a second opinion
http://www.videosift.com/video/Australias-Marine-World-The-Savage-South
http://www.videosift.com/video/Fat-girls-falls-over-her-bike
http://www.videosift.com/video/Steve-Irwin-gets-bitten-by-a-python-on-live-TV-1991
http://www.videosift.com/video/Fela-Kuti-Black-President
http://www.videosift.com/video/Chris-Rock-Bring-the-Pain-1
http://www.videosift.com/video/Aboriginal-singer-Geoffrey-Gurrumul-Yunupingu
http://www.videosift.com/video/Vlatko-Stefanovski-Miroslav-Tadic-amazing-guitar-duet
http://www.videosift.com/video/Marcus-Miller-Steveland
http://www.videosift.com/video/Marcus-Miller-Live-Under-The-Sky-91
http://www.videosift.com/video/Marcus-Miller-Bruce-Lee-liveTokyo-Jazz-2005
http://www.videosift.com/video/Lisa-Randall-lecture
http://www.videosift.com/video/Matis-Hunting-Trials
http://www.videosift.com/video/Terrafolk-Shetland-Folk-Festival-2007
http://www.videosift.com/video/Katalena-Lisica-ta-Fasalawa-live
http://www.videosift.com/video/Atlanta-1996-olympics-ceremony-with-legendary-olympians



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