>> ^BoneRemake:



I put the scene up in this Sift's information section as well as it most definitely HAD to be a source of inspiration for this awesome stop-motion animation piece. Thanks again to @bizinichi for the original Sift, @dingens for bringing my attention to it--I had no idea that scene existed, and @BoneRemake for the nice embed so people can watch it right here.

I really did like this 100th episode, but this part of the episode has made me leave it on my DVR as a permanent resident , as it TRULY went to new extremes in this type of animation to get it done. I'll have to look around and see if I can find a good documentary style kind of show or other type of setup from adultswim or Robot Chicken's company (Stupid Monkey, I believe) that shows how this full scene from beginning to end was done. It really is a fun piece to watch and re-watch and I bet they had a blast doing it as well; same with the voice acting. Maybe they have some on the Season 5 DVD/Blu-Ray Extras that may be available online by now (as I think this is almost a year old--it's 2011 anyway...).

Until then \m/....

>> ^RFlagg:

It's on the Instant Que if you have that option. Haven't seen it yet myself, but it's there...

I noticed that, and I bet that's why they keep skipping it. I prefer to get the DVD/Blu-ray for a couple of reasons. The streaming movies don't have surround sound, and I like the extra features like deleted/alternate scenes that you only get on the disks.

I made it a rule not to buy any movies older than 2005 on Blu-ray simply because most movies would just be upscaled versions of their DVD counterparts with some possible cleanup involved. *Unless* it was a classic and went through a complete restoration, The Wizard of Oz as an example. Watching that on Blu-ray is just phenomenal. (Except for that rogue hair that's STILL stuck in the camera at the end. Don't get me started on that....)

I'll probably pick this up at some point, after the price drops.

>> ^Yogi:

I've watched Jaws and it's not bad, but I honestly don't get why people think this is such an amazing movie. I mean come on it's not Rocky.


Switch Jaws and Rocky and I 100% agree with you

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Execs at a meeting before this whole process.
"How can we make more money.. without creating new things?"


Well, they got no new ideas and and least george lucas didnt put loads of shit all over it..

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

>> ^JiggaJonson:
@EvilDeathBee "reaching" ain't there yet. Still looks like a cartoon to me (probably bc I play too many games). And nomatter how good it gets, it will always look like the actors are talking to/interacting with empty air. Say what you will about animatronics and puppets but meeting a puppet's eyes is never a problem for actors.

Completely disagree. Did you seriously think Prometheus looked "cartoony"? Also, the CGI Yoda in the Blu-Ray Episode 1 was so much better than the rubbish puppet from the theatrical release (regardless of how shit the film is). No matter how good a puppet or animatronic is, it will always be limited in what it can do and especially how it animates.
And if and actor has trouble meeting the eyes of a digital character, that's poor setup, poor direction, poor editing and even poor acting. As I said, it's knowing when to use CGI and when to use puppets/animatronics/models. All can be blended to work well together, depends on the shot.

Ok, so the Yoda puppet was pretty shit, but I think I still prefer it to the CG one. Whether something is believable seems pretty binary to me. Its not as if either version really does a good job of hiding the man behind the curtain. Some CG I am totally fooled by. Backdrops, a lot of special effects but when it comes to something organic, something thats going to be the focus of the camera CG never really holds up. I've seen tech demos of CG faces, and tbh, I can't really tell the difference. I think the problem often is blending this CG in with the rest of the scene. Our brains seem very good at detecting inconsistency in lighting etc, too often CG elements really seem painted on top and it spoils the illusion. A lot of animatronic stuff matches CG in terms of its animation, but because its actually in the scene it never jumps out at you.

But hey, maybe one day our films will be made entirely in front of bluescreens. Pehraps the performers won't even have to wear makeup or costume, it'll all be superimposed on afterwards. For the moment I still think animatronics has the edge in realism.

>> ^JiggaJonson:

@EvilDeathBee "reaching" ain't there yet. Still looks like a cartoon to me (probably bc I play too many games). And nomatter how good it gets, it will always look like the actors are talking to/interacting with empty air. Say what you will about animatronics and puppets but meeting a puppet's eyes is never a problem for actors.


Completely disagree. Did you seriously think Prometheus looked "cartoony"? Also, the CGI Yoda in the Blu-Ray Episode 1 was so much better than the rubbish puppet from the theatrical release (regardless of how shit the film is). No matter how good a puppet or animatronic is, it will always be limited in what it can do and especially how it animates.
And if and actor has trouble meeting the eyes of a digital character, that's poor setup, poor direction, poor editing and even poor acting. As I said, it's knowing when to use CGI and when to use puppets/animatronics/models. All can be blended to work well together, depends on the shot.

Just watched Robocop on blu-ray yesterday. Johnson (black guy with glasses) is hilarious with his creepy perma-grin in that one. And in this clip it's hilarious how closely he's mirroring the old man's body language.

They should really start with seasons that don't suck if they expect to generate interest from fans.

Mostly this. In actuality, all of the Rick Berman Star Trek seasons (from TNG to Enterprise) have good episodes and very BAD episodes in them. Season one was predominantly the bad episodes, but there were a few really good ones in it. By season two the balance shifted and it was about 50/50 good/bad episodes. Then by season 3 they hit their stride and it was mostly good episodes with only a few bad ones here and there.

But yeah, if they really want this to fly they should have started with Season 3. I really hope that they keep this up because I'd love to get Deep Space Nine in Blu-Ray, but I don't expect the effort will sustain that long. They are charging and arm and a leg for Star Trek seasons, and I'm just not willing to pay more than 30 to 40 bucks a season for ANY show.

>> ^gorillaman:


The old version already exists, is fine and watchable, beloved by millions of people and takes no additional work to produce; whereas the new version, which can barely be distinguished in side-by-side comparisons and not at all in normal viewing conditions, needed a bunch of wasted effort to make. It has consumed human labour to no purpose. Also, it is on Blu-ray so worse by definition.
Obviously I say this as an adult who watches everything in the lowest resolution available. Sometimes I even read books with no pictures at all. 1080p gaylords may have other (wrong) ideas.
I am actually pretty surprised you went for that.



So I guess I was right the first time.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

Ok, it's an obvious troll...

>> ^ChaosEngine:
Ok, it's an obvious troll, but what the hell, I'll bite.
Why? Do you actually have a reason or do you just want the kids of your blurry lawn?


The old version already exists, is fine and watchable, beloved by millions of people and takes no additional work to produce; whereas the new version, which can barely be distinguished in side-by-side comparisons and not at all in normal viewing conditions, needed a bunch of wasted effort to make. It has consumed human labour to no purpose. Also, it is on Blu-ray so worse by definition.

Obviously I say this as an adult who watches everything in the lowest resolution available. Sometimes I even read books with no pictures at all. 1080p gaylords may have other (wrong) ideas.

I am actually pretty surprised you went for that.

I recently bought the Blu-ray of season one. I'm only on the 3rd episode or so, but I had no idea it was gonna get this cool.

I wish I could buy the blu-ray to watch and listen this at home in all hi-def + 7.1 surround sound glory.

It's not merely a bunch of youtube people. It's really a feature-length film that required actual film crews and ~$60,000 in Kickstarter funds to accomplish (of which $100 I contributed for the Blu-Ray of the finished product and a personal "Thank you" from Freddie Wong ).

Anyway, fun stuff.

I'll wait for the Blu-ray =o)