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US nuclear arsenal is a gigantic accident waiting to happen

dannym3141 says...

I do agree that unilateral disarmament is a difficult thing to achieve, but there are other arguments as to why it should be pursued. I am sure we agree on a lot of things on this subject, but let me at least put the other side out there:

1. America as the over achieving nation in the world has a duty to lead by example. How can the country with the largest nuclear arsenal expect other countries to start the process that we all signed up to? Hey France, why didn't you get rid of your 87 nukes? Well America, why haven't you touched that pile of 500? (making up numbers here to illustrate the point)

2. The US isn't worried about Best Korea nuking them because they would need a staging platform and a functional ballistic missile. They can be launched from subs, but NK isn't really your worry there. The most developed nations are the concern, and if you could get an agreement it could happen, with peacekeepers and mutually open inspections, and pressure on smaller countries to abide or be trade embargoed to stop them (which the west does/has done already). Unlikely as things are right now, i agree.

3. We have ageing equipment housing extremely dangerous explosives. They require a huge amount of maintenance and whatnot, costing billions. The UK has to replace their system soon to the tune of hundreds of billions of pounds. Imagine what kind of alternative modern anti-nuclear defence system we could develop using all that money and all our technology? That way we could be safe from nukes without using nukes and it would cost less in the long run.

Also if you claim your weapons as part of a defence, it's a bit of a giveaway that you're bullshitting if you then go off around the world antagonising other countries, knowing that they can't really fight back. So i think in fairness we should crack open that self-defence argument and see what percentage of it is referring to "a good offence".

Having said all that, binning all the US nukes overnight wouldn't be a great idea. The UK would be less of a target and safer without nukes imo, but the US would probably make the world a lot safer just by having less.

Let's be honest here, the amount of nukes we have is preposterous. No one could possibly have any reason to use that many, the potential for absolute worldwide devastation is far too high to need that many - you could potentially finish the world off in a nuclear winter, according to the average figures given, in about 100 'small' nukes. Not 100 each per country, but 100 total worldwide.

And remember, that doesn't mean you can use 90 and be safe. The figure 100 was enough to likely cause a global famine by causing temperature drops leading to crop failures. That doesn't account for extinction of animals and the devastation of the natural balance (which would lead to our eventual extinction) which can be wildly unpredictable. You could shoot 40 at a country, win the conflict, and cause the starvation of millions+ in your own (and other) countries for the next 20 odd years..... or worse.

Mordhaus said:

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Donald Trump: Magician-In-Chief

bobknight33 says...

Obama knew the timeline of the attack and pushed out his bogus Birth certificate a week before Bin Laden killing.

It is bogus as a 2$bill. -- The media and the left saying nothing to see here but truth was pouring out and so it was time for Obama to change the narrative.

Payback said:

Sorry Bob, you're reaching too far for that one.

Donald Trump: Magician-In-Chief

bobknight33 says...

Yea Obama does this too...

His best was when he put out a bogus birth certificate and was caught and then had to have Bin Laden 1 week later to wipe the story off the page.

Hillary's #1 aide Huma Abedin: Undeniable ties to terrorists

newtboy says...

He got one single thing right....when he started by saying "here is an unbelievable story".

Now let's look into the actual (not imagined like this one) relationships between the Republican party, Bushes, and the Bin Ladens. Also don't neglect the real, direct relationships between Trump and the Russian mob/Putin.

Way to over tag, Bob, so it can't be properly be tagged lies, debunked, and or fail.
I regret that I have but one downvote to give for my country.

Movers broke his stuff

Payback says...

I suspect this is an insurance scam. His story changes as he tells it. Things like "the guy I bought this from is dead" then "it was my brother ". The packing is horrifically poor too. Who the Hell uses those flimsy plastic bins to ship stuff? Just silly. Even corrugated cardboard is tougher.

AeroMechanical said:

Also, though I'm sure it's not always practical, generally the irreplaceable fragile family heirlooms usually *don't* go on the moving truck.

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wraith says...

You shoiuld have read the Wikipedia article:

"Muhammad bin Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Arabic: محمد بن نايف بن عبد العزيز آل سعود‎‎; born 30 August 1959) is the Crown Prince, First Deputy Prime Minister and the Minister of Interior of Saudi Arabia."

Mother berated at Target by customer over her breastfeeding

Asmo says...

/sigh

He has the right to be offended. He does not have the right to be insulated from offense by forcing everyone around him to remove themselves from his vicinity (which is what you are suggesting).

eg. Hey, I'm offended by you, mebbe you should go write your posts down on a piece of paper and chuck it in the bin instead of posting here. You know, to protect my delicate sensibilities?

Bitch please... \X D

bobknight33 said:

When the kid is hungry you got to do what you need to do.

Both sides are correct and wrong.

She could have go to her car or such for more privacy and the guy should have not been such a dick.


Target is wrong for being so one sided. However I can see taking that position just because the guy being dickish.



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