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jesus was a buddhist monk-BBC documentary

enoch says...

>> ^shinyblurry:

There is no evidence for this. This whole thing started because someone claimed to find documentation at an isolated monestary (i think in tibet) of Jesus' missing years. It was never confirmed, nor did anyone ever see the documents.
This is just yet another lie trying to cast doubt on the resurrection, so people won't believe that Christ was who He said He was. A lot of people can't make up their mind about Jesus..so they say He was a good man who was very wise. Well, if you read the scriptures you can't believe that. Jesus said outright He was God, and that He is the judge of the living and the dead..so either he is a liar or insane, or He was telling the truth and is our Lord and Savior. There isn't any middle ground there.


no shinyblurry.
there is no middle ground for you ,which has nothing to do with faith or belief in jesus but is entirely about YOUR belief in doctrine and dogma.
267 books of the bible..all by biblical authors yet only 66 IN the bible (KJV) or 73 (if you are catholic).
164 revisions.
over 22,000 mistranslations: CONFIRMED.
josephius flavius:debunked.
i can do this all day scooter.

as for jesus's life after resurrection i tend to agree that it is speculation based on rumor and tidbits of conjecture but the gospels themselves are based in many instances in the exact same way.
the bible is an incomplete text.
we now have:
the gospel of judas.
the gospel of mary.
the gospel of james.
the gospel of thomas.
and so much more but the church will never recognize anything apart from what has been canonized since 325 A.D.jesus didnt build the church..constantine,hippo and carthage did..nicean council 325 A.D.before that christianity would be unrecognizable to you or any other christian on the planet.

your comments have an evangelical flavor to them so i know my comment will be ignored because you are self-righteous in your own certitude based on a seriously flawed scriptural text.
any perceived deviation from canonized scripture is to be viewed as coming from satan and therefore a lie.
how very....dark ages of you.

only a fundamentalist or evangelical would view digging for the truth as a way to confuse and cast doubt.
is your faith based in jesus?
or a book?
because from what i have seen of your comments it is the latter.

well.you go have fun with that.

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enoch says...

In reply to this comment by marinara:
as a christian from a fundamentalist background

resurrection is a difficult subject.
personally i believe that the gospels are distorted.
gospel of luke isn't exactly a unequivocal advocate of the ressurection.
really the resurrection is about the savior. The savior has to come back. do you understand?


totally agree my man.
well...in principle anyways.
i find it interesting that many evangelicals get the crazies when i talk about this and my only response is:
how does jesus being a buddhist,or a gnostic take away ANYTHING from what he represents?

because it does not take away one thing.
not even from the bible due to the fact that for 18 yrs there is no record in a biblical sense.

the only thing i can think of is that they just dont like the idea of jesus not being a christian.which flies in the face of logic really...
jesus was a jew.

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Over 1000 Birds Fall Dead From the Sky

kceaton1 says...

>> ^Fusionaut:

It was fireworks! http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/03/3105511.htm?section=just
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I'm guessing the fish are a coincidence due to the distance involved (they weren't next to each other; so to speak...).

Although, fireworks (or things like that) due make some sense. I wonder if there were any "town" shows as I saw mention of only revelers for fireworks (which seems highly unlikely to cause something like this; unless these birds have a form of mass hysteria, like humans).

The lightning sounded like a better idea, but they should be able to match it to the autopsies. It'll be better once they have a few thorough autopsies done and a good idea of "where" they died (altitude, in the general area or a slight wind carry). Maybe, even a sonic boom could be at play. A plane might be able to make one loud enough, but if it happened at 30k like proposed I'm unclear whether residents would even hear a sonic boom. Also, I'm unsure as to the strength of a thunderclap (as it's also a "sonic boom", to some degree--far different cause than speed, as in lightning's case it's temperature variants), can the thunder cause a "fish in a barrel type effect, especially if the birds were in a storm with rain or a "heavy" cloud structure.

Maybe they were stunned and the fall actually killed them. Hopefully, we find out quick. I always fine these large die-offs interesting as sometimes the causes can give us more insight into how our planet works. One (actually two, in the same place) that I can think of off the top of my head was a Human die-off.

It was from Lake Nyos, in northwest Cameroon. Lake Nyos is one of three "exploding lakes" here are two interesting articles about them, but there is a (it's a National Geographic show, I'm very unsure of the title, it's related to the BBC show, "Killer Lakes", I just put up here; at the bottom is the link for it), but I know Lake Nyos is included in it) show about it which is a must watch -- they figured out what was happening basically on accident as well (this was not even a theory before; now they're afraid there are "mega-pockets" which is talked about in a History Channel "Mega Disasters" episode (I think "Methane Explosion", though "Methane" is used for sure) -- if something happens at an "ocean geographic scale" it would kill a lot of people; it has the potential to be worse than Yellowstone, but we have absolutely no information on the likelihood of this occurring nor the size of such an event). Nyos killed roughly 3500 livestock and 1700 people, some of the villagers were 16 miles from the lake. One of the other lakes is in Cameroon and the other is in Rwanda.

Here are the Wikipedia links:

Limnic Eruptions or also known as Exploding Lakes -- think of them as being somewhat like a soda can with the lid popped off and some Mentos thrown in.

Second, Lake Nyos which killed a large amount of people in 1986 and left scientists baffled.

There are some media links at the bottom of the wiki articles.


Here is the BBC documentary I just put up for the sift (HORiZONS, BBC World); trust me it's an interesting watch. Make sure you have time to watch it as it comes in at a FULL episode and is 44 minutes long. This documentary talks about the 1986 disaster and the mystery surrounding it.

They'll get into the mechanics and also show the reason some scientists are scared this WILL happen again, but this time it might kill hundreds of thousands--maybe more...

BBC Admits Al Qaeda Never Existed

raverman says...

Did i just watch a BBC documentary explain that Bin Laden, an ex-CIA asset really was created as an "Emmanual Goldstein" character?

Next you'll tell me Fox news hasn't been deliberately crafted to create a "daily hate" against everything not on the agenda of the new world order.

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Nigeria's oil spill victims (1.5 million tons of spilt oil)

Sam Harris: Science can answer moral questions

mgittle says...

@SDGundamX

I've seen stuff recently on one of those BBC documentaries about the planet regarding compassion in animals. I don't have a specific example or reference, but I remember being surprised at seeing examples like these:

http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/70self_sacrifice_sci14.php

Sure, you can argue that because of our bigger brains, humans have more complex morals, but many of them stem from the same things other animals already do. We just happen to have the capacity to think about them objectively if we're in a reflective mood.

I agree that what you've pointed out is the weakness in Harris's argument during this talk. However, I think if you gave him more time or presented what you've just said to him, he would have plenty to say. I don't think science is quite as easily co-opted. Religion, in my experience, continues to fragment. New denominations continuously pop up, and people constantly re-define what their religion means to them, which is very natural to do. But, it's kind of wonky because establishing a belief system that ignores this very human trait (constant redefinition based on new information) is fairly naive. On the other hand, I see science as having converging properties since it is based on fact and by its very nature admits it is never 100% certain of anything.

People VERY MUCH enjoy certainty. They follow leaders and invest in companies who say they have "vision" and who claim to know what to do and how to plan for the future. The problem is, nobody knows what will happen in the future, and as our world gets more and more interconnected and complex, our ability to predict gets even worse than impossible...and the more certain we are about how things will play out, the more devastated we will be when we're inevitably wrong. The problem with science is that it has the courage to say "I don't know", whereas most people automatically follow leaders (both religious and political) who give them confidence and have all the answers. Then, people are always surprised and disillusioned when the predictions are wrong.

I'm not surprised.

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