It can remain adult, the first 6 comments (including ant's, ending with bareboards') were adult, then it quickly devolved into grade school faulty reasoning, lack of comprehension, blatant racism, and derision by someone well known for that type of post.
Conversations will never remain 'adult' when people start their posts with silly blanket derision like "Ugh, everyone in this thread is acting like an asshat." That's not an adult thing to say, and adds nothing to any discussion. Also, you include ant in that (he had posted in the thread by then) for adding it to the 'talk' channel. WHAT?!

To answer your questions,
@Babymech made a quite valid point with a clear example of why Anita doesn't owe anyone anything, and a second post explaining that even more clearly (the second with some snark, because of the insulting comment(er) it was replying to).
You just started by insulting everyone...posters, speaker, Anita, "everyone in this thread"... and made huge leaps to assume she hates and belittles sex workers (who are prostitutes if they sell sex for money, BTW).
Then you go on to apparently claim rape, or people caring/not caring about rape, or perhaps people caring/not caring about other people caring/not caring about rape is a first world problem?

Trancecoach (I had to "show it anyway", he's on ignore for obvious reasons) had absolutely no valid point to make, only a complete misread of babymech and a racist insulting rant making insanely wrong claims and conflations.

@ChaosEngine (and I) explained why she disabled comments on youtube. It was not to block valid criticism, or they would never have been open in the first place. It was because of daily rape and death threats and good advice from friends, cops, and youtube.

Your points are not valid IMO. Particularly your point about her turning off comments, I find that point completely without merit for reasons already delineated.

I'm not interested enough in her to investigate her, and see no need. I'm not a fan. That said, when people make silly statements about her (like "youtubers - commenters & personalities alike - started calling her on her bullshit. In response, she disabled the comments on all of her videos.") when I know that's not correct, I will correct you.
Gamergate (EDIT: for a vast majority of people) WAS about "an ACTUAL very serious set of issues.
Online Harassment. Slut shaming. The depiction & plight of genders in pop culture. etc. " because of the harassing, slut shaming, threatening comments it generated. That's why people know about it, not because of it's original message. Juxtapose that with the repeated serious threats of brutal home invasion & sexual assault...Then ask yourself if the nitpicky personal opinion you've already expressed maintains the situation & context. Otherwise you end up expressing terrible non-sequitur mindless thoughts like Trancecoach.

in effect - "regardless of her peer's brutal rape.. she has no right to expect someone you have labeled an outspoken proponent of women's rights (in gaming).. to respond to her.. or call attention to what you (not her) are calling the most disparaged & vulnerable/easily victimized members of society, female sex workers"...yes, absolutely. Sarkeesian is not an anti-rape advocate, she's a 'women in gaming' advocate, and has no obligation to take up another cause and drop her cause. It's disturbing you don't se the difference, and I think it's intentional.

I would also say 'stick around', but would suggest calming down as well, and being less disrespectful at the onset of conversation if you want respect back. Please read your first post in this thread as if it were written TO you.

I'm of the opinion that people starting their post thread by calling anyone that disagrees with their position (also those that don't stand up to defend that position) "asshats" (and other derogatory names) have driven many off the site, and convinced many others that commenting will only get them targeted for silly name calling. Making up kindergarten style names to call public faces you dislike is also not conducive to adult conversation.

Because YOU disagree with someone's point doesn't mean they're just 'arguing for the sake of argument'...are you just arguing for the sake of argument?...because I disagree with your position, and noted you didn't contradict mine in the least.

When you start out with calling all readers "Asshats", your tone is a problem, and your post will be read in the worst light possible.

Actually, yes, VS comments are exactly that...."WAAAY more tempered & articulate WHILE still being SNARKY & PEDANTIC"...and that's a good thing, a very good thing.


I wonder, can you back up any of your statements in your first post? Things like 'Sarkeezian finds porn disgusting, feels pity for sex workers, belittles sex workers, refuses to support victims (not publicly answering is not the same as refusing any support), somehow denying sex workers their chosen profession (by saying that selling your body for sex is prostitution?), etc? That seems like a lot of assumption coming from a non-response, but maybe you know her better than I.

No, seriously, stick around. We can do this in a calm and structured manner, without you calling anybody asshats, I promise. Outline the points you think we all agree on and the points you think we disagree on, and we can start from there. Or, if you don't want to do that, I can offer my theories on what we agree on and what we disagree on, and you can correct me. Nobody has to comment on 'tone', because nobody will waste time calling each other asshats or sheeple or pedants or whatever.

(also I think the reason that videosift comments section is a ghost town is that the site design runs counter to actually following a discussion thread after the video disappears off the front page. I don't think videosift, as such, is a ghost town; people just watch more than they discuss)

OMFUCKINGGEEEE!

Asshats. This is why videosift is a ghosttown.

You all pretend your points are valid when in fact.. you just like arguing for the sake of it.

"Well, I didn't like the TONE in which you said THIS phrase. So clearly I'll have to prove to you that same point that we ALREADY AGREE UPON even HARDER"

"Psh, YOUTUBE COMMENTS! Everyone knows that OUR users and their comments are WAAAY more tempered & articulate WHILE still being SNARKY & PEDANTIC."

ugh, why did i think returning was okay.

Asshat needs to wear more plants if you ask me! Kitty power mee-owwwwwwwwwwww

While its true i don't think anyone has taken the high minded approach of altering someones name to include an insult fitting their preferred narrative, I'm not certain not sharing your opinion qualifies as being an asshat.

I'm curious, you spoke at length about Sarkeesian's motives and her opinions. I believe i'd heard of her before today, but know very little about her politics or organization.

I find it very strange that someone who, apparently, has such well known view points would be who this woman reached out to for help. And then having not received satisfaction from this complete stranger, who according to you holds her and her profession in very low regard, is completely outraged. I find that very strange.

Personally, i think whats being missed in this is how the media handles it. This apparently happened a few months past, arrests have been made and the prosecution seems to be going forward. I'm somewhat shocked that this incident seems to completely be ignored by the media.

A nun was brutally rapped in India recently and its literally on the front page of ever major news organization in the world. Its a horrifying crime, beyond me to describe.

Another woman, an adult film actress is raped repeatedly in front of her terrorized family and there wasn't even a blip...

Ugh, everyone in this thread is acting like an asshat.
I'll start with you tho.

Carrera is upset because:

Sar-sleaz-ian is an new-age-feminist hack who finds porn disgusting, and feels pity for any women who performs sex acts for money.

She belittles porn actresses like Mercedes & Cytherea as lowly abused victims.

Then, at Mercedes' request, refuses to support Cytherea when she ACTUALLY becomes a victim.

Anita is literally profiting off the fuax-oppression of women in gaming media & culture. [Cherry picking instead of highlighting the actual corruption in the culture]

Yet, she denies the agency of sex-workers to choose their profession, referring to them as "prostituted women".

This is why Sar-shittyhumanbeing-ian is a hypocrite, a fuax-intellectual, and [as Mercedes succinctly puts it] damaging gender relations.

Anita Sarkeesian is a troll and a puppet.
She's only stirring up shit to further her career.
It's more vile & disgusting than any of the stuff she's railing against.

Shit, this whole thing is some stupid first-world problem bullshit.

Actually, just an asshat commentary while he's doing his job exactly the way he's supposed to.

Honestly? Those cars will probably be EASIER to get out now he's been by. 12" snow on the roof is better than 3' snow for 5-6' to the side.

One word: Asshat.

Definition: Asshat.




Edit:

Get him kitty! He deserves everything the cat can dish out ... asshat

Yeah, I'm calling the pedestrian a dick. The driver likely decided at the last second to play it safe by not going through the intersection on a stale amber and so wound up in the crosswalk. Every driver has had that happen to them at some point.
Along comes a douchebag who takes it upon himself to be an asshole. The proof is that he then goes after the white car who is what? a couple of feet into a very wide crossing.
If karma exists this asshat will get mowed down by a driver while jaywalking.

If I was someone who had money to burn I'd seriously consider having people driving around with wads of cash and troll for these chuckleheads. Then when they try to run off with the cash I would take these criminal asshats to court and publicize it from coast to coast, this shit just keeps getting deeper and deeper.
On the other hand it does kind of mystify me why some people feel the need to drive around with so much cash on them, the one guy with the restaurant had some kind of excuse but if you score big in Vegas why wouldn't you just deposit your winnings?

How many times did you 'use' your gun? How many of those times would pepper spray have sufficed?
The instance I spoke of was a completely improper application of pepper spray (with cotton swabs directly to the eyeballs) was to handcuffed people sitting in front of a building (a building with other entrances, so not blocking any business or access I might add). It was all about asserting their power because someone didn't respect their authoratah.
The other recent incident was people handcuffed sitting on a bike path (with other pathways easily used to get around them)...once again, no need for violence other than frustration at not being 'obeyed'...absolutely none.
Thousands of people are treated violently by cops in their own home yearly who aren't making meth, didn't have any argument with anyone, but were simply in the wrong home when the cops either made a mistake or acted on bad information. What about them? That's why I say the cops need to be swatted at least once a year, so they remember what it's like and don't act like asshats.

FTW!
(Unfortunately I doubt it would work the same here in the US where so many guns are unregistered, and so many people are self centered asshats that would keep their guns anyway)
Oh, and I note that Dr Gun didn't really stop the criminal, it was another Dr and assistant tackling him that stopped him after he shot Dr Gun in the head.
I would wonder where the other (up to) 31 bullets went. Interior hospital walls usually aren't that thick.