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one of the many faces of racism in america

newtboy says...

Your first sentence was...
"If it were a public figure or an elected official, I wouldn't have a problem at all with them being fired."
The obvious implication is that, because he's NOT a public figure or elected official, you DO have a problem with him being fired, even though you admit they have the right to do so.

The company sells it's services to the public. If the public doesn't want a racist asshat working for them, they won't hire the company. Most of the public doesn't want a brain dead racist asshole working for them on their property and/or projects, so it DOES have a tangible bearing on a construction based job. If the public knows you employ people like this, you won't be getting that construction based job....that's pretty tangible.

Absolutely it's fair to expose people's public actions and tie it to them personally. 100% fair and proper. Period. People should own their actions, some need to be forced to own them.

It won't be forgotten. It's on the internet forever, probably when you simply google his name, so any employer with a brain will put his application in the round file. I'm sure there are plenty of racist employers out there willing to 'take one for the team' and give this upstanding young man employment, they just need to get together. I'm thinking he should apply with the Trump campaign.

Obviously public ridicule was not even a thought for him, much less a concern. He didn't care a whit that he was being recorded being a dumb racist douche, knowing it would be posted publicly (or, if he didn't understand that, he's simply too dumb to employ anywhere, especially in a field like construction where properly doing one's job is a serious public safety issue).
The only thing that makes a difference to people like this, and indeed most people, is effecting the pocket book.
This is 'free market' in action, and how it's supposed to work....but for it to work, people MUST be informed about the people they're hiring (and products they're purchasing). An informed consumer is a necessary, if not the MOST important part of the free market economy, and it's in danger of extinction, even with all the info on the internet (or maybe in part because of it).

VoodooV said:

I didn't say that, now did I? In fact my first post, I qualified my remarks with that it was a private company and they can do what they want.

that said. Where was the actual harm done to this company's image? he's a nobody grunt. This company wasn't big or significantly important and whether or not the guy is a racist has no bearing on the tangible performance of a construction-based job.

The only harm, in fact, is when someone decides to be that vigilante and make it known what this guy did and where he worked. In other words, some anonymous stranger on the internet decided to go after the guy and his livelyhood.

is that fair? racist or not? This guy and his words are going to be forgotten in very short order. But his lack of a livelyhood is going to have much further reaching consequences

Isn't public ridicule enough to effect social change on a small scale like this? Why do we have to go after some poor schlub's livelihood who probably already is living paycheck to paycheck?

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JustSaying says...

OK, let's ignore the sideshow and get to the point. Yes, you make choices that do no harm and make you feel better unlike others (I'm looking at you, homeopathy). So did Kriss Kross but I still feel compelled to call wearing your pants backwards stupid. Your food trend isn't that much better.
I don't have to sift through the internet to know that. Do you like dessert?
I make a lot of dessert. A LOT! Even vegan. Vegan Vanillasauce. I have to replace milk and cream with soymilk and the eggyolks with some starch (usually corn, for the gluten-free asshats). The only original ingredients are sugar (healthy!) and vanillabean.
You see the problem?
I replace ingredients you object to to mimic a product you shouldn't want in the first place. All the fucking time. All the fucking time I see vegan recipes of dishes that normally contain eggs or milk or butter or even meatproducts. I know a cook who can make vegan Leberwurst. Go on, google 'Leberwurst' and explain to me how somebody who wants to eat that and be vegan isn't a tool.
I don't mind vegetarians at all. They have actually compelling reasons for that diet choice. I wouldn't make that choice ever but I can respect theirs and believe everybody should (a lot of people don't). I loose my respect for individual vegetarians the minute they start talking about Tofuschnitzel. You want Schnitzel? Maybe you should just go and have Schnitzel. You can still eat vegetarian the rest of the week. You're just 'mostly vegetarian' then. That's fine too.
Imagine a man who tells you all the time how he disapproves of the 'homosexual lifestyle' and thinks that kind of behaviour is immoral and wrong. Then that man goes home, tells his wife to get her strap-on and moans 'Channing!' repeatedly while she does him from behind.
That man is as much of a tool as the guy who walks in a restaurant and orders vegan creme brulee. Or any pie. Or pancakes. Or Lasagne. Or a milkshake. Or something with Cheese. Or with Honey. Or icecream. Sorbets are fine though. They're mostly fruit, sugar (healthy!) and water.
I don't hate you, I just call out the stupid thing you do. You want to improve the treatment of animals, make it more ethical? That's fine, I'm with you on that. I just don't see how not using butter can help.

Mikus_Aurelius said:

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But all of this is a sideshow. The real point is that I make choices that do no one any harm and make me feel better. You on the other hand apparently go sifting through the internet for arguments against my lifestyle, fail to subject those arguments to even cursory critical thinking in your zeal, and parrot them on a video sharing community while proudly declaring your loathing for people like me.

I think this says a lot more about your relationship to eating animals than it does about mine.

Eagle Ain't About Havin' Drones In His Hood

newtboy says...

So, if your asshat neighbor is flying their drone over your house filming your wife, you just need to get yourself a pet eagle.
I wonder if anyone sees this as a business plan...rent-an-eagle....perfect for protecting private outdoor orgies, or whatever else you don't want filmed.

GenjiKilpatrick (Member Profile)

GenjiKilpatrick says...

@lantern53
*Here's a back-up for when you delete my comment cause it makes you uncomfortably aware of reality.


But to answer your questions..

1.) Why would I want to charm a openly belligerent jingoist racist asshat? I wouldn't.

One who "takes every opportunity" to mock, disparage and shame black people & culture..

..Completely denying that rule-class privilege, ethnicity & heritage have ANY bearing on those unequal, unfair, unjust outcomes..

With nearly EVERY COMMENT YOU POST!

2.) Do you call me names? Yes.

Every time you talk shit about how young black males are all "criminals, savages & thugs" and they "deserved what they got because only bad people get stopped by police".

You're a fuckin' bully. You bully black people with nearly EVERY comment you post here.

I'm just here to remind you of what that feels like Lantern.

Doesn't it suck when someone relentlessly insults and mocks you? Constantly,. on the same topic.. ..every chance they get..

Don't you hate it when someone judges you & all other cops "shitty" based on the actions & statements of a few ACTUALLY shitty cops?


Nope? You don't care or understand or "get it". It figures.

Back into your bubble, old fool.
Back into your bubble.

Just your everyday harassment, courtesy of the NYPD

Lendl says...

This thread is highly entertaining when you have both of those asshats blocked. You have to guess at what stupid thing they said to elicit such a response from people while simultaneously not having to actually read what stupid thing they said.

The block feature is the only reason I still read the comments here.

To sift though the crap.

Just your everyday harassment, courtesy of the NYPD

GenjiKilpatrick says...

Lmao. Do you live in Egypt, Lantern? Because clearly you're in.. Denial!

Who exactly are those assholes "protecting"? The elevator?

How do you know those kids are criminals?
What crime did they commit while waiting for the elevator?

And why the hell would the city settle a lawsuit for $50,000 if Jaleel Fields, the young man arrested, was some known dangerous thug/drug dealer those officers were "checking up on"?

Did you even read the article Radx post? You know, for like.. facts and context surrounding the video?

No? cause:

In the lawsuit, Fields accused the city and the two officers of violating his civil rights by falsely arresting and maliciously prosecuting him and using excessive force.

..after the video was shown to the DA, all Jaleel's charges were dismissed.

First: disorderly conduct. Police claimed he obstructed "pedestrian traffic" by blocking the elevator doors, which is interesting because the only thing this audio-free New York City Housing Authority video shows absolutely for sure is that Jaleel Fields went out of his way to let people off the elevator.

The second offense? According to Grieco, the police cited Jaleel for telling one of his friends that he didn't have to talk to the police. They called this "obstructing governmental administration."

So "OGA" here presumably would be 5'7", 130-pound Jaleel Fields intimidating the two brawny officers out of performing the "official function" of messing with two other kids in the elevator of their own building.

A spokesman for the New York City Law Department.. declined to comment on the specifics of the case, saying only..

"After reviewing all the evidence, we determined that a settlement was in the best interest of the city."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/videos/a-bad-arrest-on-video-jaleel-fields-20150526#ixzz3bH56yN17

Hah! So right, tell me again about how you're somehow totally-not-a-racist..

Even tho every assumption you just made here was based on stereotypes, prejudice, and your bias toward fellow boys in blue.

Did I mention that the city dismissed all charges and settled a lawsuit for $50,000 after seeing video evidence that literally everything those two officers said was a lie?

But incidence like this aren't worth talking about or being upset about because..
black people kill black people and Barack Obama is president, right?

lol, you asshat.

lantern53 said:

also, these cops are there to protect people from these cowards, so I think they deserve everyone's respect and support.

But if you support the criminal element, go ahead and try and brand cops as racist, bullies, liars, etc. It's good that people know where you stand.

Black Man Vs. White Man Carrying AR-15 Legally

newtboy says...

Thank god racism is over...right?

Fucking cowards in blue. Get a grip, asshats. 10 cops, 5+ cars, dogs, weapons drawn, aimed, and cocked...for what?!? Legal open carrying while black, which is just fine if you're white?

Every day I'm more surprised there isn't a racial uprising against police and reciprocation of this behavior, ending in numerous cops shot dead by 57 bullets in self defense because they had a pen and pad in their hand. If 'well trained' officers can make that mistake constantly, why not citizens? Maybe that's why they are so pant-pissingly terrified of a black man with a gun, they know it would be reasonable for it to be used against them in self defense?

If I were black, I would be dead or in jail today. No question.
Totally disappointed in cops every-single-time lately. This shit boils my blood.
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newtboy says...

Well, you are free to live dangerously if you like.
I agree, most internet threats are people shooting their mouths off, but it's impossible to filter those out and keep only credible threats, so you either consider them all credible (and prosecute them) or consider them all not credible (and hope there's not one nutjob in the gang of asshats.) I think that's a decision that should be left up to each individual based on the risk level they are comfortable with, and see no problem with people choosing either way, but do have a problem with people saying only their decision is proper and someone else's is unthinkably evil and duplicitous based solely on their comfort with risk.
If it's OK for big business to be safe, it's OK for individuals, IMO. Flights are canceled due to bomb threats, so some people are stopped from flying, not the majority though, they are merely inconvenienced, and once the threat is passed they fly on. That wasn't an option in this case.

00Scud00 said:

I'd keep crossing the street like I always have, heck, I'll even jaywalk.
My point being that anonymity + The Internet = people shooting their mouths off. The airplane bombing scenario is a totally different situation, big companies like that live by a different set of rules than a single individual, it also never stops people from flying anyhow. Beyond that I'm not sure what else I could say on the matter.

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GenjiKilpatrick says...

Asshats. the lot of yuh

I shouldn't do this @newtboy you lazy fuckin' bastard.
It's definitely not going to change your mind.

Are you sure you're not autistic or something?

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GenjiKilpatrick says...

@newtboy
At this point, you're just arguing because I don't agree.

You continue to nitpick at the semantics of my points, because -

@newtboy said: "Your points are not valid IMO.. ..when I know that's not correct, I will correct you.."

Precisely.

I saw everyone here blindly jump to the defense of an unethical "political thought pundit" (or whatever you wanna label her. Again, semantics).

I figured - 'if they actually knew the bigger picture of the matter, they would see Sark's hypocrisy. I should point that out'

Nope. You believe want you want to believe.

In this, you're just like Trancecoach or Lantern or anyone else that spins or ignores facts.

By your own admission, you don't even care about this topic.

@newtboy said: "I'm not interested enough in her to investigate her, and see no need."

You then have the audacity to say some shit like -

@newtboy said: "and [you] made huge leaps to assume she hates and belittles sex workers (who are prostitutes if they sell sex for money, BTW)."

So
1 - Why the FRECK are you still "debating" with me. if YOU DON'T EVEN CARE!?!?
2 - How the hell can you assert i'm jumping to conclusions, when YOU yourself are the uninformed party?! Admittedly!
3 - Do you realize that referring to a group of people outside of their preferred nomenclature is highly denigrating?

So while I could cite all my sources, what good would that do?

You've clearly already made up your mind about me & my positions

@newtboy said: "Then you go on to apparently claim rape, or people caring/not caring about rape, or perhaps people caring/not caring about other people caring/not caring about rape is a first world problem?"

And the topic itself

@newtboy said: "Gamergate WAS about "an ACTUAL very serious set of issues."

Again, all without substantive knowledge of the topic or parties involved.

THAT is the behavior of a fool. i.e. jackass, ass, asshat.

That is the exact behavior that caused you to ignore Trance, Lantern, Bobknight.

They (you) don't know what the fuck they're (you) talking about.
But yet they (you) still ride in on their high-horses to every debate.

So the rest of this is just gonna be me slappin' unsound arguments out yer hands.

newtboy said:

I'm not interested enough in her to investigate her, and see no need.



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