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newtboy says...

No, Donald John Trump is responsible for the content of this advertisement, and the injuries and deaths it mentions despite his refusal to take responsibility for anything.

4% of the population - 25% of cases AND 25% of deaths. This is how perfect his response has been, our infection and our death rate is >6 times the average and rising.

More functional testing might have shown higher infection rates than places that don't test at all, but testing rates have zero bearing on deaths, and our death rate correlates with our positive testing rates despite the near worthless tests Americans have been offered that can give up to 90% false negatives or 90% false positives depending on which test is available.

*promote remembering one more massive failure to lead that's cost more American lives than every war since WW2 and all terrorist attacks combined and climbing and more money than the entire Obama recovery from the Republican economic crash of 08.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

America is in for a serious wake up call when schools don't reopen, because spoiler alert. They're not reopening. And guess what, there's no alternative child care that will be available. Really. None. This is fine for the upper middle class and the wealthy, they can afford it, but the middle and lower class are going to be absolutely destroyed. Having a child unable to return to school means they can't work.

Don't believe me? here's what's going to happen. Currently in my state there's already a shortage of substitutes. They've cancelled classes numerous times because they simply can't find a sub when a teacher is sick. Now imagine what happens when a school has an outbreak and 30 or 40 students and staff gets sick. It's going to completely destroy the school, and the morale of teachers who are still there will be in the toilet. The classes they do continue are going to be absolutely worthless. The teachers will be miserable, and so will the kids. Now imagine the fact that school districts in Republican counties will refuse to shut down.You think these teachers are going to continue going to work and risking their lives? Nope. Not for what they get paid. So eventually the teachers union is going to stand up for the working conditions, and if they don't go online, they're going to strike. This will effectively shut down public schools across the entire US and costs billions and billions of dollars. But here's the worst part, all these schools that follow Betsy Devos' advice, and are taking the Republican approach of "stay in school no matter what!" are going to have zero alternate plans. You think it was bad back in march when schools were closing and didn't know what the fuck to do, take that times ten. Now, we've got another complication on top of everything else, and that's that parents are already fucking crazy about their kids education. They're not only going to be losing their shit because their kids will have to stay home, and they can't work, but their kids also won't be getting educated. Think of the gathering of the juggalos, and imagine it's Karens at a school board meeting. That's where we're headed. It's going to be an absolute shit show, and all because Americans are too fucking dumb and arrogant to simply wear a mask, and social distance for a few weeks. really, we could have this behind us like the rest of the world, but we've got to sit in time out and watch 100s of thousands die because we're acting like toddlers.

I would encourage everyonw to watch the latest interview with Betsy Devos. When asked what should be done when there's an outbreak at schools she said "we need to reopen schools", when asked again, she just repeated herself. They literally have no alternate plan. None. When the outbreaks happen, these schools are going to close, and the schools will have no contingency plans. Because the leadership in the US has been so abysmal, and the rich people making decisions have nothing to worry about. Fuck the poor, make them bring their kids to work, that's where we're at.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

How's that Trump 2020 air treating you? Enjoy breathing while you can I suppose. Well Trump says it's under control and he's saved X lives and blah blah and he wants all the schools open immediately. I say wear a mask but I just watched him in a video say that people need the freedom to not wear them.

YOU SHOULD GO BREATHE NEAR THOSE PEOPLE YOU WORTHLESS FUCK.
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THANKS FOR FUCKING US ALL A BIT MORE WITH YOUR DUMB-ASS PROPAGANDA RUSSIA BULLSHIT LEAKING FROM YOUR COLOSTOMY BAG MOUTH

Photojournalist blinded in left eye by police projectile

newtboy says...

Worthless assholes happen.

But who really cares?
Just another fake Republican making more fake baseless accusations for his fake president and his anti constitution, anti American team.

FTFY

BTW, *redacted*, it was not an accident.

bobknight33 said:

Accidents happen.

But who really cares.
Just another fake news liberal who took one for the team.

Negative Ion Products Are Dangerously RADIOACTIVE

drradon says...

without doubt, the garbage that was tested is worthless - but the testing presented was a bit naive. Alpha particles do have a very short path-length - the alpha radiation that he was detecting (while the emitter was covered) may well have been from radon gas that is being produced by the the thorium in these devices. The threat from skin exposure to directly generated alphas is likely negligible - but the threat from ingestion of the thorium oxide coming off these dangerous trinkets is likely much greater than he recognized. A significant fraction of lung cancer deaths are from inhaled radon daughter products that occur naturally - all these products are part of the decay series for thorium...

Grreta Thunberg's Speech to World Leaders at UN

bcglorf says...

@newtboy,
"Actually, I'm selling their audience short. When real scientists present the real data dispassionately, I think the average person gets quickly confused and tunes out."

I'd argue bored maybe more often than confused. Although if we want to say that most of the problems society faces have their root causes in human nature, I think we can agree.

"I had read the published summaries of the recent U.N. report saying we had 12 years to be carbon neutral to stay below 1.5degree rise, they were far from clear that this was only a 50% chance of achieving that minimal temperature rise"

Here is where I see healthy skepticism distinguishing itself from covering eyes, ears and yelling not listening.

Our understanding of the global climate system is NOT sufficient to make that kind of high confidence claim about specific future outcomes. As you read past the head line and into the supporting papers you find that is the truth underneath. The final summary line you are citing sits atop multiple layers of assumptions and unspecified uncertainties that culminate in a very ephemeral 50% likelyhood disclaimer. It is stating that if all of the cumulative errors and unknowns all more or less don't matter. then we have models that suggest this liklyhood of an outcome...

This however sits atop the following challenges that scientists from different fields and specialities are focusing on improving.
1.Direct measurements of the global energy imbalance and corroboration with Ocean heat content. Currently, the uncertainties in our direct measurements are greater than the actual energy imbalance caused by the CO2 we've emitted. The CERES team measuring this has this plain as day in all their results.
2.Climate models can't get global energy to balance because the unknown or poorly modeled processes in them have a greater impact on the energy imbalance than human CO2. We literally hand tune the poorly known factors to just balance out the energy correctly, regardless of whether that models the given process better or not because the greater run of the model is worthless without a decent energy imbalance. This sits atop the unknowns regarding the actual measured imbalance to hope to simulate. 100% of the modelling teams that discuss their tuning processes again all agree on this.
3. Meta-analysis like you cited usually sit atop both the above, and attempt to rely on the models to get a given 2100 temperature profile, and then make their predictions off of that.

The theme here, is cumulative error and an underlying assumption of 'all other things being equal' for all the cumulative unknowns and errors. You can NOT just come in from all of that, present the absolute worst possible case scenario you can squeeze into and then declare that as the gold standard scientific results which must dictate policy...

Edit:that's very nearly the definition of cherry picking the results you want.

Kicked Out of Class for Saying There are Two Genders

newtboy says...

Bullshit totally dishonest title Bob....as usual.
Kicked out of class for being disruptive, interrupting, not shutting up after stating his opinion, arguing in class, denying and defying school policy, and being a douchebag. His time is worthless, not the teacher's, not the rest of the class. He wasted THEIR time by insisting they agree with his ill informed opinion and not shutting up. I hope he has fun in Summer school.
*lies for the misleading title

Sheriff Caught On Bodycam Telling Deputies To Lie

kEnder says...

Watched 3:59 and interpreted that differently. Debatable whether the officer intended to lie or knew the camera was on. I'm happy that officer refused to compromise the truth.

I'm with you there on the worthless off switches, let's hope information changes our world for the good.

newtboy said:

"It bears noting that EVERY cop went along with this lie"
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"until they realized on scene that the instruction to lie had been recorded."
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"Body cameras with on off switches are worthless for the public, whenever there's something they want to hide cops just claim it was off...trust them.

Sheriff Caught On Bodycam Telling Deputies To Lie

newtboy says...

It bears noting that EVERY cop went along with this lie, not one contradicted it, a lie which was an attempt to add a charge of attempted murder on a police officer, until they realized on scene that the instruction to lie had been recorded. This body cam footage, a body camera the sheriff tried to ensure wasn't recording, saved this man from life in prison based on police lies.

Body cameras with on off switches are worthless for the public, whenever there's something they want to hide cops just claim it was off...trust them.

No charges against the cops....the DA said it was clear he was instructing the deputies to file false charges, but since they realized it was being recorded this time and therefore didn't follow through railroading this one defendant, no crime was committed. WTF is that? To me, this is reasonable doubt for any past defendant in the county.

Liberal Redneck - Mueller Report Schmueller Report

newtboy says...

No, Bob, that's called projection. Your head has always been in the clouds.

There is obstruction there. No question. It will be assumed to be felonious obstruction without a full release of the investigation, something already being fought against by Trump even as he tells you he wants it released. This report specifically did not exonerate Trump, so of course he lies and says it does...and of course you take his word over the report summation itself about the report itself. *facepalm. I wonder why I talk to you, you tell me you think I'm intelligent, knowledgeable, and communicate well, but never does a fact make it past your ears (eyes). You admit Trump is a massive, professional liar and fraud, yet you believe every word he tells you. It's simply asinine and mirrors the actions of someone with serious mental deficiencies or disorders.

YOU want to play this game another 6+ years....with Clinton, a private citizen already cleared by multiple investigations over multiple never ending politically motivated accusations already spending 10 times the money and effort to nail her, and your bubble was burst and your dreams of charges went bust....but you want more...More...MORE.

No, I am not the one of us in a bubble....never was. I held no illusions that this investigation would publish any findings that would make a difference, being politically stymied as it was, nor that there would be any consequences if it did because it was led by republicans, controlled by republicans, and any consequences relied on republicans to do their job and not kowtow to their great exalted leader. Since you people are all brain dead sycophants who love Trump exponentially more than America I never had any illusions it might matter or change any minds. I was correct.

Funny how as recently as last week this report was all lies and a purely political hit piece, a witch hunt created by unprofessional frauds and liars and based on lies that should be discarded out of hand because it's so tainted it's worthless, and this week it's an unimpeachable Trump vindication (even though it's blatantly not) prepared by honorable professionals that did a great job. *facepalm

Now, the multiple felonious state charges in states not controlled by republicans, those might stick, but won't matter a whit to your ilk. He won't be jailed, so you'll gladly vote for a felon....again.

So the great divider gets to lie more about the findings and erode our international standing, political discourse, and civility farther and you get to kiss his feet and prepubescently thumb your nose at anyone not following suit....while our union dissolves and we slide towards dissolution. Enjoy. Your kids get to live in the hell you're creating.

bobknight33 said:

You head is lost in the clouds.

There is no there there. Do we need to continue to play this game another 6 years?

Your bubble was burst and you dreams of collusion went bust .

Robocalls: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

USDA: Eggs are NOT Healthy or Safe to eat

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Mordhaus says...

The sad thing is, I cringe every time bob seems to be on the same side as me because inevitably he will post something that makes everything I say seem worthless due to the stupidity of his comment.

ChaosEngine said:

Every now and then, bob, you make something resembling a coherent argument for your position.

But most of the time it’s trolling like this that makes me instantly dismiss anything you have to say because you state it so childishly.

Look at @Mordhaus. I don’t agree with him on this issue, but I respect his opinion because he’s making a decent argument.

I believe you can be better. Maybe you should buy a Gillette razor?

Obama, Mueller and the Biggest Scam in American History

newtboy says...

"I don't live like liberals in a 5000 sq. ft. mansion." Lol. Yeah, because clearly average lefty liberals are the conspicuous consumers building Mcmansions, not those pure of heart selfless angels who put people before profit and find ostentatiousness ugly on the far right. *facepalm
So yep, he's a snarky lying tool or a total delusional nut job. You pick.

Either way, it's not worth my worthless time to watch for 36 minutes to come to the same conclusion....that he's just another hyper partisan liar making up any irrational nonsense he thinks excuses Trump. He tipped his hand in under one minute.

bobknight33 said:

Not a tool, just a the facts of the players and a pleasurable time line of events.

'I can think of nothing more American': Beto O’Rourke

newtboy says...

I don't agree.
Reasonable people don't listen to Trump. Only those getting their direction and information from him (or from those repeating his blatantly racist stance) rather than listening to the protesters clear statements disagree on this issue.

I've never heard anyone who didn't take Trump's worthless word about the message or meaning complain.
Only the gullibly duped disagree, not reasonable people.

bcglorf said:

Can you agree with as much as his opening remark:"Reasonable people can disagree on this issue?"

That stance seems pretty good as a base/starting point.



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