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Response to Trump's Video Game Montage - #GameOn

Jinx says...

A little bit of Overwatch, which is pretty PG, and Mirror's Edge, which does allow you to kill people but it isn't core to the game. I haven't played The Last of Us, but aren't there still human enemies, not just the infected? I agree it's a fairly tame list though.

Clearly Getting Over It with Bennett Foddy is the only game that should have been in Trump's montage. If that doesn't incite you to violence it will probably destroy any self esteem you might have instead. Ban this sick filth please.

moonsammy said:

As far as the inclusion of violent games go, I didn't see any here where the object is to kill other humans. There were some where you fight monsters, or corrupted humans (The Last of Us), but I didn't spot any that actually feature / primarily focus on people killing other people. I'll admit to not being familiar with every game featured however.

Response to Trump's Video Game Montage - #GameOn

moonsammy says...

As far as the inclusion of violent games go, I didn't see any here where the object is to kill other humans. There were some where you fight monsters, or corrupted humans (The Last of Us), but I didn't spot any that actually feature / primarily focus on people killing other people. I'll admit to not being familiar with every game featured however.

Nature is better than Isaac Asimov's Brain

dag says...

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Not to be that guy, but Science Fiction is an essential part of thinking about science and is not worthy of putting down. Anyone who has played Last of Us knows a thing or two about Cordyceps.

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THE LAST OF US 2 - Official Reveal Trailer

Colbert interviews Anita Sarkeesian

newtboy says...

I get her point about how women are represented in many games, but certainly not all games. There are also many strong, intelligent female characters out there, and a good dose of ineffective, whining, useless male characters too.
If she and other women feel under represented, they need to buy more games like 'The Last of Us' and support realistic characters in gaming. If games like that sell, game companies will make more of them...guaranteed. It's a supply and demand issue, they just need to create more demand and what they want will be supplied.
On another note, she and others need to keep in mind that most gaming is FANTASY, and as such does not realistically represent men or women. Asking it to do so is akin to asking sci-fi writers to be less inventive and more down to earth in their stories, or movie makers to be more realistic when making movies about the Matrix. It's kind of missing the point.

Colbert interviews Anita Sarkeesian

SDGundamX says...

Her videos don't make the argument that games cause violence against women or anyone else. She analyzed the roles of women in games and found trends in how they were portrayed. These were not flattering portrayals (for example the "Damsel in Distress" portrayal) and male characters were not often treated in the same way in games. She's pointing out how off-putting that can be to potential and actual female gamers and recommending women be portrayed in a more realistic manner. She's also pointing out how games are reinforcing the sexist and misogynistic messages that already exist in society. I don't think she is claiming media is the root cause of either sexism or misogyny.

Games ARE changing and including less "Trope-y" content and more well-rounded characters. And that's partly BECAUSE of her critiques (the creative director on The Last of Us has publicly stated her work heavily influenced the character designs and story of the game).

But I don't see that as a reason to not call out certain games for falling back on tired and occasionally demeaning representations of women.

00Scud00 said:

Speaking for myself I would say that I don't really agree with her assertion that mass media in general or video games in particular are the primary driving force behind sexism, misogyny or violence against women in the real world. I don't think there's ever been a conclusive study that makes that connection and much of this is basically the violence in video games causes real violence, only repackaged with a feminist twist. In her latest video she states that violence against women in games trivializes the violence that happens to women in real life, but then says nothing about it trivializing violence against anyone else (I guess men just don't matter as much as women). She accuses the industry of using women as little more than set pieces but then fails to acknowledge that many of her examples are NPCs, who are by definition set pieces and that goes for both men and women. She basically shows us a bunch of clips from various games and pulls them completely out of context and writes her own narrative for them. So, show everyone a bunch of shocking images and tell them what they mean, and hope everyone just takes your word for it and doesn't think too hard about it.

Zero Punctuation: Thief

Yogi says...

Yep sounds like shit. Reminds me of another shit game I played Beyond Two Souls. Everyone hyping it, no one who plays video games actually liking it.

I'll go back to playing Portal 2 and The Last of Us for the 18 time each since I bought them.

World's First 3D Printed Metal Gun

chicchorea says...

...WE HAVE A WINNER ! ! !

How long before ammunition is made unavailable ala supply of material or finished product, cost, or regulation. The last major US lead smelter is closing.

By the time this technology is widely affordable I hope phaser plans are available.

Trout said:

But can you 3D print the ammo?

Zero Punctuation: Grand Theft Auto 5

EMPIRE says...

It's official. Yahtzee is 100% troll.

This game is nothing short of amazing. It's graphically impressive (not as much as The Last of Us for example, but one has to consider the scale and freedom of one and the other), there's tons to do and see, and the gameplay is pretty fun. Yes the characters are all terrible people, but that's all part of the charm. Even the shrink is an asshole. Walter White was an awful person and Breaking Bad was still amazing.

Grand Theft Auto V - First Gameplay Trailer

EMPIRE says...

This looks amazing. I had thought that The Last of Us was this console generation's swan song, but I may have been very wrong.

GTA V, looks incredibly promising.

Zero Punctuation: The Last of Us

EvilDeathBee says...

I think there's a big difference between playing a game simply for story and watching a movie. To me, you can feel more connected to the protagonists, feel more empathy. For instance, all the shit that happens to the protagonists not only happen to them but also you. There's a stronger disconnect when simply watching someone on a screen go about the actions.

And when a developer really delves into the non-linear narrative, it can be a far more interesting and rewarding an experience, piecing together elements noticed in the world and identifying their meaning to the story at large.

For me, while The Last of Us would've worked well as a movie, the experience was unique and more enjoyable as a game, despite it's many gameplay flaws. It's not the best example of what story telling could be in a video game, but it's a damn good one

Jinx said:

"Games vs Stories: How they end up ruining each other."
http://youtu.be/-VUm4iONrjo
Smart guy.

I haven't actually played The Last of Us. I watched a 6hr youtube video and enjoyed the story. I would have watched a shorter version with most of the gameplay skipped, but it lost too much of its continuity. From watching the gameplay I dont think I really missed out on much from not playing the game. The "puzzle" sections in particular looked awful.

So yah. I watched The Last of Us and it kinda seemed to me like the developers just want to make films. I'm not sure how much worth is really gained from bland interactivity when they could just do away with it entirely and not compromise at all on the story. That said, I enjoyed Bioshock Infinite and I the story was somewhat enhanced by playing it even if the gameplay was somewhat mediocre. Seems a lot of people liked "playing" The Last of Us (although I think a similar number enjoyed watching it too) I just struggle to define it as a game. That might also be why a "game" critic has a lot of negative things to say about it.

ps. I wonder if they'll start pulling those youtube vids for copyright infringment.

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