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Time to shoot down the zeros and get with the heros there gorgeous. : p

>> ^deathcow:

>> ^MrConrads:
Time to dust off the ol' gal and pop in some Wings of Fury.

That is a rich euphamism!

Its weird how ego centric he is in this video , I would be truly embarrassed ignoring all the staff and people that worked and act as if it was all my own doing.

It seems having a single ego people can focus on is something that works well for marketing though, works for sports personalities and politicians.

I would have hoped that the general population would not be susceptible to such transparent ways of manipulation , weather or not its for good , bad or purely capitalist gain.


Interestingly I think there original plan was to have the mac introduce him onto the stage but then they scrapped that for some reason , its ststrange what they had it say given that Steve jobs was already on the stage and already introduced.

Good thing your creed is a bunch of manmade humbug then, huh?

>> ^ant:

>> ^hpqp:
So according to your creed, Jobs is in hell?
>> ^ant:
>> ^hpqp:
Nice of them to make a tribute, but Heaven? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Also, I am pretty sure he is not a believer.


/me nods.

>> ^MrConrads:

Time to dust off the ol' gal and pop in some Wings of Fury.


That is a rich euphamism!

>> ^hpqp:

So according to your creed, Jobs is in hell?
>> ^ant:
>> ^hpqp:
Nice of them to make a tribute, but Heaven? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Also, I am pretty sure he is not a believer.



/me nods.

>> ^dag:

Shame about the bow tie.


Hey now ...... bow ties are cool.

So according to your creed, Jobs is in hell?

>> ^ant:

>> ^hpqp:
Nice of them to make a tribute, but Heaven? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Also, I am pretty sure he is not a believer.

Yep, those've been in need of an upgrade ever since people had the slightest inkling of ethics. I suggest he look here for some suggestions.

>> ^notarobot:

Moses, meet Steve. He's gonna upgrade your tablets.
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/editorial-cartoon/editorial-ca
rtoon-2011-10-07

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^Sarzy:
Oh okay, I see. I don't know though -- MSNBC probably should have given some coverage to OWS that night, but Steve Jobs' death is pretty darn important, isn't it? I mean, 10 years from now, people are definitely going to remember Steve Jobs. I don't know if you can say the same about OWS, which essentially strikes me as the left's answer to the tea party.

Sure, Steve Jobs' death is a worthwhile news story, but it's not like it was some unfolding event with minute-to-minute updates either. A single segment, possibly in each show would've been more than sufficient. If they really felt the need to pay a big tribute, come back in a couple weeks with a big 60 minute tribute show or something.
Oh, and yes, people will remember Steve Jobs's life 10 years from now, but most people will probably need to look up the date of his death 10 years from now.
And who knows how people will remember these protests. Maybe they'll just be a footnote in the history of the Lesser Depression. Or maybe it'll be a big factor in the 2012 election. Or maybe it'll be the beginning of some major shift in American politics. It'll almost certainly be the first two, and it might just be the third.
That's why I'm annoyed MSNBC blotted it out that night, and was slow to start covering it. They're giving it lots of coverage now, so I'm somewhat less ticked than I was when I originally put up this post, but still, it's the first real distinction I've seen between corporate MSNBC, and mostly independent Current in terms of their coverage.


I don't know -- I think their heart is in the right place, but I guess I just question the efficacy of what the OWS people are doing on a practical level. Even if they somehow succeed in getting tighter regulations on Wall Street, is that really going to do much to to fix the whole 99 vs 1 percent income disparity? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that here in Canada, we don't have the same level of unchecked financial shenanigans as you do over there, which is why we weren't hit quite as hard by the recent downturn. But our income disparity is still pretty much as bad as what it is in the States. I don't think anything short of a massive political and cultural overhaul will fix that disparity to any meaningful degree, and obviously that's not going to happen.

But maybe I have OWS all wrong -- I'll admit that I'm not the most informed guy ever.

I don't think you have to be an asshole to make great stuff, but I do think you have to be an asshole (at least to a certain extent) to succeed on the level that Steve Jobs succeeded. You can't make it to where Jobs did unless you have a very clear vision of what you want, and you are willing to do whatever it takes to get there.

Reading this blog made me remember reading this Wired story from way back when I thought Wired was a good magazine (GO Maximum PC!) and the quote that really caught my eye was "Everyone has their Steve-Jobs-the-asshole story." I think it stood out because, on TV at least, he seemed nice enough, but mostly I wanted ammunition for arguments with my Mac fanboy friends.

More recently I remember reading about Apple pulling an entire e-book collection from one publisher after said publisher produced an unauthorized biography with the double entendre title "iCon: Steve Jobs" which is a move that I consider a far cry from "Do no evil."

Even Steve Wozniak openly said: "I couldn't treat people the way he does"

But do geniuses need to be assholes?

I would say that there is a fine line between tough love and devaluing the people around you. That fence dance can make a C feel like an A; but it makes the kid who fails feel all the more hopeless.

>> ^hpqp:

Nice of them to make a tribute, but Heaven? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.


Also, I am pretty sure he is not a believer.

>> ^Sarzy:

Oh okay, I see. I don't know though -- MSNBC probably should have given some coverage to OWS that night, but Steve Jobs' death is pretty darn important, isn't it? I mean, 10 years from now, people are definitely going to remember Steve Jobs. I don't know if you can say the same about OWS, which essentially strikes me as the left's answer to the tea party.


Sure, Steve Jobs' death is a worthwhile news story, but it's not like it was some unfolding event with minute-to-minute updates either. A single segment, possibly in each show would've been more than sufficient. If they really felt the need to pay a big tribute, come back in a couple weeks with a big 60 minute tribute show or something.

Oh, and yes, people will remember Steve Jobs's life 10 years from now, but most people will probably need to look up the date of his death 10 years from now.

And who knows how people will remember these protests. Maybe they'll just be a footnote in the history of the Lesser Depression. Or maybe it'll be a big factor in the 2012 election. Or maybe it'll be the beginning of some major shift in American politics. It'll almost certainly be the first two, and it might just be the third.

That's why I'm annoyed MSNBC blotted it out that night, and was slow to start covering it. They're giving it lots of coverage now, so I'm somewhat less ticked than I was when I originally put up this post, but still, it's the first real distinction I've seen between corporate MSNBC, and mostly independent Current in terms of their coverage.

this is very simple sirs, MSNBC is 1. a subsidiary of GE 2. a corporate master and 3. completely and utterly ran and funded by the same entities the ows movement rallying against.
of course they're not going to cover it.

and sarzy, i think you need to give ows a harder look. >> ^Sarzy:

Oh okay, I see. I don't know though -- MSNBC probably should have given some coverage to OWS that night, but Steve Jobs' death is pretty darn important, isn't it? I mean, 10 years from now, people are definitely going to remember Steve Jobs. I don't know if you can say the same about OWS, which essentially strikes me as the left's answer to the tea party.