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"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

Boise_Lib jokingly says...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^Spacedog79:
Except that this is quite obviously contrails from an airliner with the sun reflecting off them.

I love how, in the youtube comments, all the conspiracy whackos are arguing with each other over whether this is an alien craft, a secret government weapon, chemtrail deployment, or a sign of the endtimes, and they all have the nerve to call the others crazy.


You're crazy.

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^Spacedog79:

Except that this is quite obviously contrails from an airliner with the sun reflecting off them.


I love how, in the youtube comments, all the conspiracy whackos are arguing with each other over whether this is an alien craft, a secret government weapon, chemtrail deployment, or a sign of the endtimes, and they all have the nerve to call the others crazy.

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

csnel3 says...

>> ^Boise_Lib:

>> ^csnel3:
I think this has something to do with the secret super sonic plane that the USA is testing up and down the pacific ocean.
Its so fast...not quite a meteor , not just a plane..But its good for you.
Our government just had to admit to this when they lost one about 2 weeks ago. Maybe a pulse engine?

I think this is what you mean.
Project Aurora


Well, I guess thats it, but could you have posted a link to the admission of the plane? not just the cover story page. Myth my ass, they just lost one.
also , wasnt there some kind of unkown rocket looking launch off cali coast about 3 months ago ,that was explaind as contrails also? (looked vertical to me).

Thanks for the info. Boise_lib. These things should not pass unnoticed.

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

Boise_Lib says...

>> ^csnel3:

I think this has something to do with the secret super sonic plane that the USA is testing up and down the pacific ocean.
Its so fast...not quite a meteor , not just a plane..But its good for you.
Our government just had to admit to this when they lost one about 2 weeks ago. Maybe a pulse engine?


I think this is what you mean.
Project Aurora

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

csnel3 says...

I think this has something to do with the secret super sonic plane that the USA is testing up and down the pacific ocean.
Its so fast...not quite a meteor , not just a plane..But its good for you.
Our government just had to admit to this when they lost one about 2 weeks ago. Maybe a pulse engine?

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

"Meteor" over Peru--Aug. 25, 2011

Christopher Hitchens on the ropes vs William Lane Craig

peggedbea says...

you can't assign evolution feelings, opinions, emotions. you can't personify it like that. to do so is at best- a misstatement, and at worst - an intentionally manipulative scare tactic. every successful adaptation is a mutation. mutations happen constantly. some are more attractive than others. but someones "less attractive" mutated genes don't deem them useless. i'm short, have bad teeth and i run slow. i still bred. but evolution has 0 opinions on the matter because it does not have a personality. i am valuable only because of my ability to mean something to someone and find meaning in someone else. "survival of the fittest" does not describe which adaptations are "better" and therefore not "useless", it was a term coined by a social darwinist to justify gross poverty and legitimize human suffering.

anyone that has the ability to love and be loved is intrinsically valuable. if love and morality have an evolutionary basis, which they do, then i see no need for god. your attempt to demonize evolution with callous and offensive personifications is weak. and gives a bit of insight into your own morality and how you view people. evolution didn't deem kids with syndromes or other disabilities as worthless, you did. god didn't generously bestow upon them the ability to "behave nobly", they're human beings .. they did that on their own. this self righteous, pompous ass interpretation of the "miracle" of admirable behavior being displayed by someone you obviously view as "less than" can fuck right off. >> ^shinyblurry:

Is this called argument from offense? Do you have a point here? In any case, whether you like or not, that's what they are according to evolution..genetic abberations. ie, useless people.
>> ^peggedbea:
you don't know what i do for a living, so i'll skip the part where i yell at you passionately kids with downs/people with disabilities/kids with syndromes.
furthermore, survival of the fittest was not a phrase coined by darwin. and did not originally apply to the evolution of organisms. applying it to people with genetic disorders further offends me. >> ^shinyblurry:
Surely, you can invent value, which has meaning to yourself..but there is no intrinsic value to anything created by mere chance. It is only the arbitrary value that we assign that makes something meaningful. I valued people when I didn't believe in God, loved them very dearly, yet there wasn't a logical reason to do so.
Consider, what is the value of someone born with a severe disability, like downs syndrome. They are a burden to society and they themselves cannot enjoy life as a normal human being. They are pretty much genetic baggage as far as evolution is concerned, a disturbing abberation to be eliminated. In the survival of the fittest, they should be culled from the gene pool. Yet, even they are capable of noble behavior, something your science cannot explain. Can evolution explain this one: http://teachingsofjon.com/ ?
>> ^peggedbea:
again, statements like this make me feel like the world must look terrifying.
your intrinsic value to me is not dependent on whether or not a creator meant for you to exist.
>> ^shinyblurry:
If the Universe was created by chance, life has no intrinsic value or meaning. You can believe it does, but then you could get hit by a bus. It truly doesn't matter what you believe, because you are at the mercy of a random fate. Not that you could even trust your own mind, being that you are just a biological machine whose thoughts are just chemical reactions.
No matter how noble human beings become, a meteor doesn't know anything about that..humankind could come close to utopia, but wandering black holes are not impressed. Nothing that anyone accomplishes will have any lasting impact on a Univese that will fall into heat death and fade away. To say life is absurd and futile under these circumstances is a kindness.





Christopher Hitchens on the ropes vs William Lane Craig

shinyblurry says...

Is this called argument from offense? Do you have a point here? In any case, whether you like or not, that's what they are according to evolution..genetic abberations. ie, useless people.

>> ^peggedbea:
you don't know what i do for a living, so i'll skip the part where i yell at you passionately kids with downs/people with disabilities/kids with syndromes.
furthermore, survival of the fittest was not a phrase coined by darwin. and did not originally apply to the evolution of organisms. applying it to people with genetic disorders further offends me. >> ^shinyblurry:
Surely, you can invent value, which has meaning to yourself..but there is no intrinsic value to anything created by mere chance. It is only the arbitrary value that we assign that makes something meaningful. I valued people when I didn't believe in God, loved them very dearly, yet there wasn't a logical reason to do so.
Consider, what is the value of someone born with a severe disability, like downs syndrome. They are a burden to society and they themselves cannot enjoy life as a normal human being. They are pretty much genetic baggage as far as evolution is concerned, a disturbing abberation to be eliminated. In the survival of the fittest, they should be culled from the gene pool. Yet, even they are capable of noble behavior, something your science cannot explain. Can evolution explain this one: http://teachingsofjon.com/ ?
>> ^peggedbea:
again, statements like this make me feel like the world must look terrifying.
your intrinsic value to me is not dependent on whether or not a creator meant for you to exist.
>> ^shinyblurry:
If the Universe was created by chance, life has no intrinsic value or meaning. You can believe it does, but then you could get hit by a bus. It truly doesn't matter what you believe, because you are at the mercy of a random fate. Not that you could even trust your own mind, being that you are just a biological machine whose thoughts are just chemical reactions.
No matter how noble human beings become, a meteor doesn't know anything about that..humankind could come close to utopia, but wandering black holes are not impressed. Nothing that anyone accomplishes will have any lasting impact on a Univese that will fall into heat death and fade away. To say life is absurd and futile under these circumstances is a kindness.




Christopher Hitchens on the ropes vs William Lane Craig

peggedbea says...

you don't know what i do for a living, so i'll skip the part where i yell at you passionately kids with downs/people with disabilities/kids with syndromes.
furthermore, survival of the fittest was not a phrase coined by darwin. and did not originally apply to the evolution of organisms. applying it to people with genetic disorders further offends me. >> ^shinyblurry:

Surely, you can invent value, which has meaning to yourself..but there is no intrinsic value to anything created by mere chance. It is only the arbitrary value that we assign that makes something meaningful. I valued people when I didn't believe in God, loved them very dearly, yet there wasn't a logical reason to do so.
Consider, what is the value of someone born with a severe disability, like downs syndrome. They are a burden to society and they themselves cannot enjoy life as a normal human being. They are pretty much genetic baggage as far as evolution is concerned, a disturbing abberation to be eliminated. In the survival of the fittest, they should be culled from the gene pool. Yet, even they are capable of noble behavior, something your science cannot explain. Can evolution explain this one: http://teachingsofjon.com/ ?
>> ^peggedbea:
again, statements like this make me feel like the world must look terrifying.
your intrinsic value to me is not dependent on whether or not a creator meant for you to exist.
>> ^shinyblurry:
If the Universe was created by chance, life has no intrinsic value or meaning. You can believe it does, but then you could get hit by a bus. It truly doesn't matter what you believe, because you are at the mercy of a random fate. Not that you could even trust your own mind, being that you are just a biological machine whose thoughts are just chemical reactions.
No matter how noble human beings become, a meteor doesn't know anything about that..humankind could come close to utopia, but wandering black holes are not impressed. Nothing that anyone accomplishes will have any lasting impact on a Univese that will fall into heat death and fade away. To say life is absurd and futile under these circumstances is a kindness.





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