>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^ridesallyridenc:
Am I the only one here that thinks these people are useless? See a problem, sit around and do nothing. Ask for more stuff. Play the victim and "raise awareness." Right.
How about going out and starting a company and affecting change in a tangible way? How about creating jobs for your friends and giving back to society?

How will starting a company and creating, let's be generous here, ~20 jobs affect the situation?
The problem is that the big banks have been allowed do whatever the fuck they want (with the collusion of the government). Creating a company won't change that.


Small businesses are job creators. Office of Advocacy funded data and research shows that small businesses represent 99.7 percent of all firms, they create more than half of the private non-farm gross domestic product, and they create 60 to 80 percent of the net new jobs.

People don't want to do business with these large companies anymore. There is demand for small, responsible companies to fill the gap. Picketing them does nothing. Government regulation does little long-term. Stealing money out of their pockets by providing competition drives them to compete on your terms and operate in a more ethical manner.

>> ^ridesallyridenc:

Am I the only one here that thinks these people are useless? See a problem, sit around and do nothing. Ask for more stuff. Play the victim and "raise awareness." Right.
How about going out and starting a company and affecting change in a tangible way? How about creating jobs for your friends and giving back to society?


How will starting a company and creating, let's be generous here, ~20 jobs affect the situation?

The problem is that the big banks have been allowed do whatever the fuck they want (with the collusion of the government). Creating a company won't change that.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^ridesallyridenc:
Am I the only one here that thinks these people are useless? See a problem, sit around and do nothing. Ask for more stuff. Play the victim and "raise awareness." Right.
How about going out and starting a company and affecting change in a tangible way? How about creating jobs for your friends and giving back to society?

Ever heard of Jim Crow laws? How about the Vietnam war? Were you alive in the 50's when at colleges it was pretty much 99% white and male students? Have you been to a college campus lately?
Yeah idiot protesting and social movements start somewhere and have a purpose. You're uneducated about this subject...go and educate yourself.


You may be right. It may have to start in the streets before it can enact useful change down the road. I guess we all have our own parts to play, and that combination of everyone fighting for their own cause in their own way is what makes the world go 'round. I tend to be impatient and want to jump to solution, while others want to mobilize support for a cause. Not better or worse, just different.

Yes, I've spent plenty of time on campus as a student, as an employee, and as a teacher. There are some good eggs in there, but it always seemed to me that the majority of activists were highly-political, self-important children who liked the attention of being associated with a cause more than the cause itself.

One of my favorite experiences of late was meeting a woman who had just graduated from college. She wanted to start a clothing company that made college apparel. She was also distressed by the trend of off-shoring textile manufacturing into countries who had no regulation and did not pay their employees a living wage.

Rather than picketing, she went to Sri Lanka on her own dime and met local business people. She convinced one to open a textile factory that paid their employees a living wage of three times the national average, and she promised a certain volume of business to that manufacturer. They did, and she ran her clothing company in a responsible way. Once her margins were in order, she brought manufacturing back to North Carolina (her home state, a state that has been plagued economically by the loss of textiles).

She has taken more than 20% market share from the big 2 college clothing providers and continues to grow. Moreover, she has proved that clothing isn't always bought based on price alone, and that a socially-conscious business can afford to charge a premium to people who believe in its cause.

In my opinion, if you want to set an example, do it with success. Do it by proving that what you believe in is possible. Present solutions, and let people use you as a model.

>> ^ridesallyridenc:

Am I the only one here that thinks these people are useless? See a problem, sit around and do nothing. Ask for more stuff. Play the victim and "raise awareness." Right.
How about going out and starting a company and affecting change in a tangible way? How about creating jobs for your friends and giving back to society?


Ever heard of Jim Crow laws? How about the Vietnam war? Were you alive in the 50's when at colleges it was pretty much 99% white and male students? Have you been to a college campus lately?

Yeah idiot protesting and social movements start somewhere and have a purpose. You're uneducated about this subject...go and educate yourself.

>> ^ridesallyridenc:

Am I the only one here that thinks these people are useless? See a problem, sit around and do nothing. Ask for more stuff. Play the victim and "raise awareness." Right.
How about going out and starting a company and affecting change in a tangible way? How about creating jobs for your friends and giving back to society?


I'm sympathetic to your point, but there are real grievances to be voiced on that street. Ask for more stuff? You mean asking for fraud to prosecuted? Start a company? With what resources? With what credit extended by the financial sector? You can't pay people with good intentions sunshine. Honestly, what they are protesting are the financiers that lobby for their own privileged treatment justified by their role as "job creators." Well... what jobs? All I see is a bunch of gold bars in a private jet on its way to Switzerland.

To some extent I agree that protests are futile. Scares me to think of what's needed then. I'd prefer that the politicians wake up, and make it clear whose side they're on.

>> ^ridesallyridenc:

Am I the only one here that thinks these people are useless? See a problem, sit around and do nothing. Ask for more stuff. Play the victim and "raise awareness." Right.
How about going out and starting a company and affecting change in a tangible way? How about creating jobs for your friends and giving back to society?


I see your point. But protesting in this fashion is still important. While protesters rarely affect or change anything now days, it's not like they're sitting around doing nothing. You can see the fliers they were carrying to distribute in the video. Someone had to design and print them, and they're out distributing them. That's still kind of a job whether they're getting paid for it or not.

Not to mention, when people get attacked like this by the very police who are supposed to be protecting them, it helps highlight the problems. It's also an effective way of recruiting new members. Unfortunately, from the police perspective, it's also an effective way of recruiting a new psychopath who decides that he might really enjoy macing some women.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^lurgee:
F ck the police!

This is the point I'm always torn with. Everyone always says their are good cops...I'm sure there were cops there that didn't like this strategy thought it was wrong and unethical. And people say we shouldn't lump all cops together like they all believe in this stuff and suppress people in the way that they do.
Well why the fuck don't they stand up? Why are the cops that have a problem with the shit that's going on just standing there...not having a problem with it. This is why the idea of "Don't Snitch" and "Fuck the Police" gains ground. If you're not going to stand up for what's right in your OWN DEPARTMENT, you will get lumped in with everyone else.
We are the American People. We don't trust you, we don't believe in you, we won't cooperate with you. You are there to protect and serve, just what does that mean anymore?


https://occupywallst.org/article/Officer-Bologna/ (toward the end of the page):

This was an attempt to make us weak, this was an attempt to destroy or derail our message, our conversation. It has not succeeded. We have grown, we will grow. Today we received unconfirmed reports that over one hundred blue collar police refused to come into work in solidarity with our movement. These numbers will grow. We are the 99 percent. You will not silence us.

>> ^lurgee:

F ck the police!


This is the point I'm always torn with. Everyone always says their are good cops...I'm sure there were cops there that didn't like this strategy thought it was wrong and unethical. And people say we shouldn't lump all cops together like they all believe in this stuff and suppress people in the way that they do.

Well why the fuck don't they stand up? Why are the cops that have a problem with the shit that's going on just standing there...not having a problem with it. This is why the idea of "Don't Snitch" and "Fuck the Police" gains ground. If you're not going to stand up for what's right in your OWN DEPARTMENT, you will get lumped in with everyone else.

We are the American People. We don't trust you, we don't believe in you, we won't cooperate with you. You are there to protect and serve, just what does that mean anymore?

Thanks man!

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>> ^Boise_Lib:

Hey @gwiz665, why the downvote?
Does this offend your delicate sensibilities?
He voted for Sara for president and for Bristol on dancing w/ the stars

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

I hope this was manufactured for the show, because otherwise it's just sad. Regardless of how lame a public figure may be, you don't take it out on their kids. Advantage: Bristol
In this case I have no pitty for her. Bristol made herself a public figure riding a wave of her mom's popularity. How many other public figure's kids are as big of an attention whore as her?
For example, do you know who Colin Powell's daughter is? Probably not. You don't see Chelsea Clinton on TV or news all the time either.
Whereas this one is nothing more than an attention whore and any negativity she gets is deserved.

Quit it! Quit it! Stop this fighting! Can't we all just agree they are big!?

>> ^Hybrid:
In this interview, they talk about the fact that Chelsea has never had hers officially measured, and therefore isn't recognised as having the largest.
In the link you give the girl has 38KKK breasts. Chelsea here has 146XXX. <IMG class=smiley src="http://cdn.videosift.com/cdm/emoticon/smile.gif">>> ^cito:
Video title is incorrect
she doens't have the biggest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/04/worlds-biggest-breast
s-sh_n_163992.html
Brazilian Sheyla Hershey is recognized as the largest breasts in the world

In this interview, they talk about the fact that Chelsea has never had hers officially measured, and therefore isn't recognised as having the largest.

In the link you give the girl has 38KKK breasts. Chelsea here has 146XXX. >> ^cito:

Video title is incorrect
she doens't have the biggest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/04/worlds-biggest-breast
s-sh_n_163992.html
Brazilian Sheyla Hershey is recognized as the largest breasts in the world

first time seeing Chelsea. Its hard to tell if I want. It is clear it is very hard to read her and determine when she is sincere or being funny. On the one hand I kind of like that (This is one of the main reasons I like the anime "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya". The Japanese vocalization of Haruhi was truly unique and brought both an excitement and yet extreme bluntness to the character rarely seen), on the other hand it's hard to tell if she even cares, and if she doesn't care then I don't feel like I should.

There's not one bit of Chelsea Handler that I like.

I have never felt like watching her show, and normally I do not like Russel Brand at all. This has only challenged my opining of Brand, and not so much about the show, but I too would like to know more.>> ^spoco2:

I've seen this before and I really hate Chelsea, she's glum, combative, negative.
I get that she doesn't like his 'charming' act, but geeze, she's such a bitch. Is there some history there which is informing her horrible behaviour.
She's the HOST for f ck's sake.