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>> ^Ti_Moth:

>> ^shinyblurry:
I mean without faith what do you have?
>> ^smooman:
ps: shinyblurry, science has, quite conclusively, proven that the earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old....but thats neither here nor there. You at least recognize that it doesnt matter (as do i), as it pertains ones personal relationship with god.
The bible wasnt written to tell me how old the earth is =)



Err... Evidence and critical thinking?


while that may be true, they are not mutually exclusive.
faith is the evidence of things unseen (i know thats gonna mean zilch to you so take that with a grain of salt) and i very seriously doubt you could convincingly question the critical thinking skills of persons such as CS Lewis

i dont think atheists (or non christians for that matter) are godless sinners, devoid of any morality, any more than i would hope that you not think me an ignorant, bumbling, neanderthal because im religious

we have different religious views, however this does not make either of us smarter, more critical, or better than the other because of that fact


ok..now i want to have YOUR babies.
pegg is gonna have to go it alone.
right on man.

>> ^Ti_Moth:

>> ^shinyblurry:
I mean without faith what do you have?
>> ^smooman:
ps: shinyblurry, science has, quite conclusively, proven that the earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old....but thats neither here nor there. You at least recognize that it doesnt matter (as do i), as it pertains ones personal relationship with god.
The bible wasnt written to tell me how old the earth is =)



Err... Evidence and critical thinking?


while that may be true, they are not mutually exclusive.
faith is the evidence of things unseen (i know thats gonna mean zilch to you so take that with a grain of salt) and i very seriously doubt you could convincingly question the critical thinking skills of persons such as CS Lewis

i dont think atheists (or non christians for that matter) are godless sinners, devoid of any morality, any more than i would hope that you not think me an ignorant, bumbling, neanderthal because im religious

we have different religious views, however this does not make either of us smarter, more critical, or better than the other because of that fact

This video has been seconded as a duplicate; transferring votes to the original video and killing this dupe - dupeof seconded with isdupe by Duckman33.

>> ^Zifnab:

@ant This is a dupe of one of yours:
dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Transforming-Transformer-Costume-of-Bumble-Bee


*isdupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Transforming-Transformer-Costume-of-Bumble-Bee

This video has been nominated as a duplicate of this video by Zifnab. If this nomination is seconded with *isdupe, the video will be killed and its votes transferred to the original.

@ant This is a dupe of one of yours:

*dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/Transforming-Transformer-Costume-of-Bumble-Bee

the nanny state had a good plan until the bumbling a-hole reverse herded and started preying on the willing-to-follow-or-be=scooted ducklings, without much success, until, hands full, a-hole made his way with the remaining ducklings which, then, yes, you guessed it, followed their captive brethren out of sheer instinct. Instinct which they were using until happening upon the ravenous concrete disruptions named roads, where they were saved in shifts by a man working his own. The bumbling a-hole feels good about himself and the down on his hands. The cop vacates the scene, and all is well. Five minutes later, the ducklings returned and were killed by a passing semi-truck, a blotch of red and feathery down stuck to the road until it became mashed beyond repulsion to become another piece of concrete again, disrupted in disruption by another few passing lives.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Two more years of that radical marxist and done. That's all that matters now.


I'm gonna echo @dystopianfuturetoday

What, in your mind, has Obama done that you would consider radical or Marxist?


I'll expect a bumbling ill informed reply similar to the one in the video sometime soon.

Yeah, I had clicked submit, then noticed my grammatical bumbling, hit modify while it was still loading, and then this occurred.

So are you enjoying high unemployment, a looted Treasury run by a tax cheat, an arrogant Congress, weakened standing in the world and soon-to-be post-office-quality health care??

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” -WISE author unknown


>> ^thinker247:

I would have voted for a Kenyan witch doctor if it meant that the Maverick and his Bumbling Sidekick wouldn't have brought their ridiculous views of the ®eal Ameri©a into the White House.
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I would have voted for a Kenyan witch doctor if it meant that the Maverick and his Bumbling Sidekick wouldn't have brought their ridiculous views of the ®eal Ameri©a into the White House.
>> ^quantumushroom:

If people had actually been informed in '08 about who and what he was, he'd never have been elected. Kenya dig it?

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
End result of captured regulators and centralized planning you mean. I walk into my kitchen or my bathroom and I am FILLED with industries that never really strike me as evil or corrupt by your, what I would consider, hasty generalization of capitalism. I look at my CD-rs, my desk, my toilet paper, my bathmat. I get a good price at the exact quality I want of them. The big problems, the ones where we see the most corruption and unfairness are those industries usually associated with heavy government regulation or finite resources.
The more a government gets involved with the mode and means of production the more bad laws get passed to benefit few at the cost of everyone. Looking back, I think everyone would agree that the legal monopolies that exist on phone and cable TV held us back technologically and culturally. As a result of these controls people pay higher prices to these companies. As the government gets more involved the need for companies to both protect and influence government officials for their unfair advantage. The government monopolies on things aren't any better, like the postal system, but that is really a topic for a different conversation.
So the idea that you point out of "Unless you spend a great deal of constant effort on monitoring it, your government -will- be corrupted by the ultra-rich who can offer benefits far beyond those available from any other source." is absolutely correct. The solution then, isn't MORE government regulations and oversight on the private economy.
The solution in my opinion is my like a recent sci-fi concept my friend told me about for his film school project. The best cure for a villain, is another villain. The villain in this case would be businesses. Being that the most effective person to fight large power corruption is people after that same power. Given the same resources and lack of meaningful unfair advantages, over time they mill each other out to an even level. At certain times people might get a little less for their money when companies use their established reputation to sell one over on people (I'm looking at you Toyota), but the public out lash when this is brought to light is swifter than any type of technocratic bumbling you would get from non-industry people on capital hill.
Capitalism isn't pretty. The evils of capitalism are all to clear. Someone can risk it all, and loose it all. A man could work all his life an perhaps never get ahead. Such is the risk. But the truth of the matter is capitalism is a driving force for great wealth for a great deal man more people than any type of managed economy.
The real and hardest questions I think stem from intellectual and property rights limits and restraints as it is hard to find a purely rational limit on what those should be. But ultimately, the principles of libertarianism are based in reason and not emotion or personal value. When making a system, you have to bench notions of good and bad, those are personal values of which there are 7 billion flavors. You have to start with reasonable, or unreasonable...a completely opinion-free, logical arrangement or arguments free from notions of morality or religion.


unregulated capitalism is retarded.

The fact is the more money you have the easier it gets to make more money so the ritch get richer and the pore get poorer.

Because of the way capitalism works for the rich to get richer they esentualy have to grab the wealth from the less wealthy.Because its easier for rich to make money than for the pore to make money u end up with 2% of a population being super rich and the rest with pore to average wages.


If you want a democratic safe clean caring society you will need to regulate capitalism , Tax the super ritch and do projects that help educate the pore or those with less money , esentualy redistabute the welth.

alternatively you would have to fundamentally change capitalism which ultimately would be regulation again.

Pure capitalism could only ever work if everyone started from a blank slate and a equal footing and in reality that would never happen.

End result of captured regulators and centralized planning you mean. I walk into my kitchen or my bathroom and I am FILLED with industries that never really strike me as evil or corrupt by your, what I would consider, hasty generalization of capitalism. I look at my CD-rs, my desk, my toilet paper, my bathmat. I get a good price at the exact quality I want of them. The big problems, the ones where we see the most corruption and unfairness are those industries usually associated with heavy government regulation or finite resources.

The more a government gets involved with the mode and means of production the more bad laws get passed to benefit few at the cost of everyone. Looking back, I think everyone would agree that the legal monopolies that exist on phone and cable TV held us back technologically and culturally. As a result of these controls people pay higher prices to these companies. As the government gets more involved the need for companies to both protect and influence government officials for their unfair advantage. The government monopolies on things aren't any better, like the postal system, but that is really a topic for a different conversation.

So the idea that you point out of "Unless you spend a great deal of constant effort on monitoring it, your government -will- be corrupted by the ultra-rich who can offer benefits far beyond those available from any other source." is absolutely correct. The solution then, isn't MORE government regulations and oversight on the private economy.

The solution in my opinion is my like a recent sci-fi concept my friend told me about for his film school project. The best cure for a villain, is another villain. The villain in this case would be businesses. Being that the most effective person to fight large power corruption is people after that same power. Given the same resources and lack of meaningful unfair advantages, over time they mill each other out to an even level. At certain times people might get a little less for their money when companies use their established reputation to sell one over on people (I'm looking at you Toyota), but the public out lash when this is brought to light is swifter than any type of technocratic bumbling you would get from non-industry people on capital hill.

Capitalism isn't pretty. The evils of capitalism are all to clear. Someone can risk it all, and loose it all. A man could work all his life an perhaps never get ahead. Such is the risk. But the truth of the matter is capitalism is a driving force for great wealth for a great deal man more people than any type of managed economy.

The real and hardest questions I think stem from intellectual and property rights limits and restraints as it is hard to find a purely rational limit on what those should be. But ultimately, the principles of libertarianism are based in reason and not emotion or personal value. When making a system, you have to bench notions of good and bad, those are personal values of which there are 7 billion flavors. You have to start with reasonable, or unreasonable...a completely opinion-free, logical arrangement or arguments free from notions of morality or religion.

This is awesome. Believe it or not, it's an old vaudeville routine. W.C. Fields did something VERY similar to this in a film from 1934...the link is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MZWq14uD-A

Look for the cigar boxes around 2:52, and W.C. even adds his own bumbling flair to the routine.

Because providing for a common defense is written into the Constitution, while taking care of citizens' every need (and want) is not.

When taxocrat FDR decided to rewrite the Constitution in the 1940s to falsely imply government may spend on anything it wanted with no restrictions, he brokered a deal with the devil. That bureaucrat-run devil appeared to bail everyone out then (altho it's more and more evident that "government help" prolonged the Depression) just as the mafia appears to provide "protection" for those it bleeds.

The devil has been running wylde for 60 years now, and the huge, tyrannical government the South feared during Civil War days is now a dangerous reality. For every liberal pissed about spending on missiles and bombs, there's a conservative pissed at 9 billion lost PER YEAR on Medicare fraud.

Put another way, a government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have, and will do so sooner than later.

A question for the Keebler Elf of Communism: if government does things more cheaply and efficiently than private enterprise, why stop with just taking over health care? Just take over everything like the soviets did. Oh, wait...

Now hating on me for revealing to you these grim truths, that the Wizard of Oz is really just a bumbling but well-meaning fool behind a curtain, is a waste of time. You don't have to believe as I do, but until you stop believing government is the Savior and start understanding job creation and defending liberty lies in those grasping things at the ends of your arms, you are screwed. WE are screwed. I raise my beer to you...