>> ^bobknight33:

I would not call OBAMA gay but it is to believed that he and Rahm Emanuel were (are?) members of Chicago', Man’s Country, a one stop shopping" center for gay men.
It is said that Obama began frequenting Man’s Country in the mid-1990s, during the time he transitioned from a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School to his election as an Illinois State Senator in 1996. Emanuel, reportedly joined Man’s Country after he left the Clinton White House and moved back to Chicago in 1998, joining the investment firm of Wasserstein Perella and maintaining his membership during his 2002 campaign for the U.S. 5th District House seat vacated by Rod Blagojevich, who was elected governor.


It is widely believed that bobknight is a fucking moron who should not be allowed to drive a car, let alone vote.

It is said that he regularly sucks dogshit through a straw for breakfast.

I would not call OBAMA gay but it is to believed that he and Rahm Emanuel were (are?) members of Chicago', Man’s Country, a one stop shopping" center for gay men.

It is said that Obama began frequenting Man’s Country in the mid-1990s, during the time he transitioned from a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School to his election as an Illinois State Senator in 1996. Emanuel, reportedly joined Man’s Country after he left the Clinton White House and moved back to Chicago in 1998, joining the investment firm of Wasserstein Perella and maintaining his membership during his 2002 campaign for the U.S. 5th District House seat vacated by Rod Blagojevich, who was elected governor.

Interesting page on her website.: http://giffords.house.gov/2010/10/us-rep-gabrielle-giffords-calls-for-foreclosure-moratorium.shtml

This might not be related, but consider other people who have stood up to banks: Rod Blagojevich, Eliot Spitzer, Julian Assange, Paul Wellstone.

It would be interesting to compare the rest of the targets on Sarah Palin's hit list: Ann Kirkpatrick (Arizona), Harry E. Mitchell (Arizona), Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona), John Salazar (Colorado), Betsy Markey (Colorado). Allen Boyd (Florida), Suzanne M. Kosmas (Florida), Baron P. Hill (Indiana), Earl Pomeroy (Alabama), Charlie Wilson (Ohio), John Boccieri (Ohio), Kathy Dahlkemper (Pennsylvania), Christopher Carney (Pennsylvania), John M. Spratt, Jr. (South Carolina), Tom Perriello (Virginia), Alan B. Mollohan (West Virginia), and Nick J. Rahall II (West Virginia).

[edit: These people were targeted because of healthcare politics and geographic vulnerability and the shooter seems to be a lone nutjob. I'm withdrawing my conspiracy theory.]

Interesting page on her website.: http://giffords.house.gov/2010/10/us-rep-gabrielle-giffords-calls-for-foreclosure-moratorium.shtml

Other people who have stood up to banks: Rod Blagojevich, Eliot Spitzer, Julian Assange, Paul Wellstone.

It would be interesting to compare and contrast the rest of the targets on Sarah Palin's hit list: http://i.imgur.com/gs0t7.jpg

Targeted Democrats: Ann Kirkpatrick (Arizona), Harry E. Mitchell (Arizona), Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona), John Salazar (Colorado), Betsy Markey (Colorado). Allen Boyd (Florida), Suzanne M. Kosmas (Florida), Baron P. Hill (Indiana), Earl Pomeroy (Alabama), Charlie Wilson (Ohio), John Boccieri (Ohio), Kathy Dahlkemper (Pennsylvania), Christopher Carney (Pennsylvania), John M. Spratt, Jr. (South Carolina), Tom Perriello (Virginia), Alan B. Mollohan (West Virginia), and Nick J. Rahall II (West Virginia).

[edit: These people were targeted because of healthcare politics and geographic vulnerability and the shooter seems to be a lone nutjob. I'm withdrawing my bank conspiracy theory.]

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Wonder if all those changes in wiretapping laws had more to do with domestic control than foreign terrorism? There would be no reason to attempt a third rate burglary if you could legally amass volumes of embarrassing private details of the lives of potentially troublesome politicians.


My guess is that they were trying to remove some of the more annoying hoops people had to jump through for legit investigations. Label someone as a "possible terrorist" and tracking them becomes less tedious. I suppose it could also make gathered evidence less likely to be thrown out in court, civil liberties be damned.

At the same time, I just assume there is some level of unregulated monitoring going on with or without the changes. It wouldn't be admissible in court, but that isn't a problem if they're trying to hide the monitoring to begin with. Corporations and knowledgeable individuals do it too.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
^Assuming my conspiracy theory has any truth to it, how did Bank of America fail with Blagojevich? He was arrested, impeached and removed from office. Was he not successful neutralized?


It was very much successful in that regard, but mainly because of what Blegojevich said on tape. The calls themselves were recorded well before his arrest, so at most it would seem that BoA may have accelerated an inevitable process. The "failure" was him only being convicted of lying to the FBI, but you're right that it didn't matter since he was already removed from office.

I think it's fairly common for people/businesses to sit on incriminating evidence when it suits their interests (business partners), but release it if needed. It would be a little different if BoA (or whoever) were fabricating evidence, but Rod and Spitzer were both doing things they knew would result in their removal from office if discovered by the public.

I'm not as familiar with the legality of what Assange has been doing, but most of the hate pointed towards him seems to stem from the government cables rather than corporate leaks. He wasn't exactly trying to be discrete about it and pissed off a lot of well-funded groups besides BoA.

BoA probably had reason to investigate all three guy, and they definitely had reason to use anything they found, but I haven't seen anything indicating there is more to it than that (unless maybe they were using illegal methods to obtain the information).

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
I see this as a singular corporate-governmental beast with two backs bludgeoning anyone or anything that stands in its way.


I agree. Limit it or get rid of it.

^Assuming my conspiracy theory has any truth to it, how did Bank of America fail with Blagojevich? He was arrested, impeached and removed from office. Was he not successful neutralized?

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
The same government that denies us healthcare is out in Russia, fighting for leaches in the credit industry.

I don't see anything unusual about the federal government advocating for US businesses in other countries. Obama has specifically done so for american car companies (among others), and I wouldn't classify him as someone who "denies us healthcare".

As far as the correlation between all of the arrests, there is a possible connection, but that's all I can really say from the evidence I've seen. Large businesses can shine a relatively well-funded flashlight on people they don't like, even if through secondary channels, but that's about the extent of it. Even solid evidence can fail in that regard (Blagojevich).

Do people with money/resources try to tie up opponents in unrelated legal matters? Probably. Are these arrests related on a more specific level? Maybe, but I haven't seen enough evidence to support a belief that it is true.

@dystopianfuturetoday I noticed a typo in the description, Blagojevich's arrest was on 12/9/2008, not 12/9/2010. You are right this video is from the day before his arrest.

I really can't buy the idea that Bank of America pulled strings to get him arrested, the FBI had been investigating and preparing a case against Blagojevich for 3 YEARS, it's not like they literally threw the charges together overnight.

And the Interpol arrest warrant against Julian Assange was issued on 11/20/2010, 9 days BEFORE Assange's interview with Forbes that lead to all of the speculation about the info he has against Bank of America. So they couldn't have been responsible for the warrant, or obviously for Julian's choice to surrender voluntarily to police custody.

I wouldn't be surprised if both Assange and Blagojevich pissed Bank of America right the hell off. But the dates of their arrest don't even quite rise to the level of coincidence. And motive alone would still be a poor reason to think that B of A was responsible. I'm sure they both have a vast list of enemies, as most politically important figures do.

December 9, 2008 -- Gov. Rod Blagojevich and his chief of staff, John Harris, were arrested by FBI agents

Two incidents in 2008 and then one two years later... although BoA is a bank and therefore evil... and still around and strong... meaning superevil... i dont think theres more than meets then eye (greed and paranoia and lies, etc).

Your video, Rod Blagojevich arrested a day after standing up to B of A, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

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YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE CRAZY TO BE A DEMOCRAT, BUT IT HELPS
October 27, 2010

Ann Coulter


With the media sneering about the Tea Party candidates being a bunch of nuts, how about we take a look at some of the Democrats running this year?

We've got Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank, who personally presided over the housing crash after getting that gay prostitution business behind him. Of course, Frank's actions are nothing compared to Republican Senate candidate Rand Paul's alleged participation in a college prank. Now, THERE'S a scandal!

California Sen. Barbara Boxer refuses to say whether a newborn baby is a human life. When Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Penn., asked her on the Senate floor a few years ago whether she believed a baby born alive has a constitutionally protected right to live, Boxer was stuck for an answer. Her nonresponsive replies included these:

"I support the Roe v. Wade decision. ...

"I think when you bring your baby home, when your baby is born -- and the baby belongs to your family and has all the rights. ...

"Define 'separation' ...

"You mean the baby has been birthed and is now in its mother's arms? ...

"The baby is born when the baby is born. That is the answer to the question. ...

"I am not answering these questions! I am not answering these questions!"

(Also, I think she said: "Please call me 'senator.'")

That's not Patty Murray-stupid, but it's still pretty stupid. How many late-term abortions are you planning to get, Californians, that it's worth being represented by such a cretinous woman?

Even if you are under the misimpression that Boxer's Republican opponent, Carly Fiorina, is somehow going to outlaw abortion in California, Carly will cut your taxes so much that you'd be able to fly to Sweden for all your abortions and still come out ahead!

Liberals are indignant that Sarah Palin writes speech notes to herself on her hand. This week, Alex Sink, the Democratic candidate for governor in Florida, was slipped a debating point by her makeup artist, texted by a campaign aide in violation of the rules during a debate with her Republican opponent, Rick Scott.

Oh, those thick Tea Party candidates!

Last weekend, Illinois governor Pat Quinn -- Rod Blagojevich's running mate -- stood silently as his supporter, state Sen. Rickey Hendon, blasted Quinn's Republican opponent, Bill Brady, as "idiotic, racist, sexist, homophobic."

Hendon has repeatedly made headlines over the past few years for his inappropriate behavior toward female colleagues. Once -- during a Senate debate -- he asked Sen. Cheryl Axley if her hair was naturally blond and then publicly propositioned her.

Another time, Hendon tackled Rep. Robin L. Kelly, knocking her to the ground after a House-Senate softball game she had come to watch in office attire.

Of the impeccable Brady, Hendon wailed: "If you think that women have no rights whatsoever, except to have his children, vote for Bill Brady. If you think gay and lesbian people need to be locked up and shot in the head, vote for Bill Brady."

Even the Chicago press was shocked by this, calling on Quinn to apologize. Quinn has "renounced" Hendon's remarks, but refused to apologize.

But watch out for the Tea Party candidates! There are some real loose cannons in that bunch.

Also last week, Rep. Ron Klein, Democrat of Florida, hysterically claimed he had been "threatened" by one of the Vietnam Veteran bikers supporting his Republican opponent, Allen West.

The man who had allegedly "threatened" Klein is 60 years old and goes by the terrifying name of ... "Miami Mike." Mike told the Miami Herald that he had simply e-mailed Klein, saying that he deserved to be voted out of office and, in addition, he needed "a good ass-kicking, which I'd be more than happy to do even though I'm a lot older than you."

As Miami Mike said: "A threat? Give me a break. He cannot be scared of what I wrote. If he is, he is just a real baby."

Apparently so. Klein turned Mike's e-mail over to the Capitol police, where they promptly burst out laughing and then ordered framed copies of the e-mail.

Speaking of little girls in pink party dresses, Keith Olbermann has repeatedly claimed that Allen West "disgraced his uniform." Weirdly, he never gives details of how he thinks West did that. (Maybe Olbermann could check on war-zone protocol with fake-Vietnam War veteran Dick Blumenthal, who's running for the Senate from Connecticut by lying about having served in Vietnam.)

As a colonel in Iraq, West was interrogating an Iraqi terrorist who knew about a planned ambush. Unable to get him to talk, West shot a gun near the terrorist's head, whereupon the frightened but unharmed detainee spilled the beans.

Because of that, West's men were able to capture a potential attacker and identify future ambush sites. There were no further attacks on West's men.

As West later told The New York Times, "There are rules and regulations, and there's protecting your soldiers." He said, "I just felt I'd never have to write a letter of condolence home to a 'rule and regulation.'"

When the Army considered court-martialing West, thousands of letters poured in defending West and thanking him for what he had done. Ninety-five members of Congress signed a letter to the secretary of the Army in support of West. No court-martial was ever convened.

Liberals won't say that John Phillip Walker Lindh disgraced his country. Washington Sen. Patty Murray thinks Osama bin Laden is a swell guy for building "day care centers" in Afghanistan. But they say a hero like Allen West "disgraced his uniform" by saving the lives of American soldiers.

Yeah, the Tea Party candidates are a real embarrassment.

Wow. Blagojevich has an impressive ability to deflect and fire back. I wouldn't want to debate him.

Though not found guilty, I still think he is.