>> ^braindonut:

Both the single player and the multiplayer are wonderful. I enjoyed the single player campaign in BF3 FAR more than the last two Modern Warfare games. (Didn't even finish Black Ops and I have no plans on buying MW3...)
Zero Punctuation is hate packaged as comedy. It's not actually a place to go for objective game reviews. The truth is, yes, BF3 has some flaws, but overall, there's a shitload of fun to be had and I feel sad for anyone who is so jaded and cynical that they couldn't find that fun.


Objective Game Reviews? How would you even do that?
Also: IMO Battlefield is BY FAR the best multiplayer-online-shooter out there. For me it's like a combination of CoD 1, Counter-Strike and Battlefield 1942. And this is the holy trinity of online-gaming - again if you ask me.

Both the single player and the multiplayer are wonderful. I enjoyed the single player campaign in BF3 FAR more than the last two Modern Warfare games. (Didn't even finish Black Ops and I have no plans on buying MW3...)

Zero Punctuation is hate packaged as comedy. It's not actually a place to go for objective game reviews. The truth is, yes, BF3 has some flaws, but overall, there's a shitload of fun to be had and I feel sad for anyone who is so jaded and cynical that they couldn't find that fun.

>> ^bookface:

I agree with Chomsky that it's highly improbable the GW Bush administration engineered the entire thing from head to toe, and it was never leaked. If there was any conspiracy happening it was more likely that GWB and friends simply left the back door and looked the other way in terms of security. Why go through the trouble of orchestrating a highly elaborate international black op when you can just ignore guys like Richard Clark, and count the days until something goes down? Perhaps what W was thinking while sitting in that school house on 9/11 was, "Heck, I didn't think they'd make SUCH a ruckus." Of course I'm speculating but I suppose I'm making Chomsky's point, too.


This. (thanks @bookface)

Think of the Iran-Contra scandal. Was Reagan involved? "I Don't recall."

"funds for the Contras, or any affair, the President (or in this case the administration) could carry on by seeking alternative means of funding such as private entities and foreign governments.[47] Funding from one foreign country, Brunei, was botched when North's secretary, Fawn Hall, transposed the numbers of North's Swiss bank account number. A Swiss businessman, suddenly $10 million richer, alerted the authorities of the mistake. The money was eventually returned to the Sultan of Brunei, with interest.[48]<-wikipedia

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^bcglorf:
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Deano:
I will say though that he's wrong to blithely dismiss the case for underlying truth. "So what" is not a reasonable response. IF it was a conspiracy born in the darkest hearts of the U.S government or some branch thereof, it would be the biggest story in modern times.

I don't think he's saying it wouldn't be a big story. I think he's saying given all the terrorism we commit around the world, this doesn't measure up and would be a mere footnote if it wasn't done to us. Because this was the one time terrorism went the other direction it's significant, other than that it wasn't really as huge of a deal as what we did to numerous countries during the 20th century.

So, America has regularly targeted civilians on purpose, and declared it a warning and magnificent act worthy of great praise?
I understood American wars and black ops to have killed a lot of civilians. I wasn't under the impression that there was wide spread practice of specifically singling out civilians for murder. Even the horrific boastful body counts of 'Nam and the carpet bombing of Cambodia had the flimsy pretense of evil done to prevent a greater evil. Which I add I condemn as one of the most evil acts done in recent history, but even that pales to what would be American officials deliberately killing everyone on 9/11 to get the policy changes they want.

Yes they deliberately ordered the attacks of "Soft Targets" in Honduras. Places like schools, hospitals, and churches but the rebel forces they trained and supported with arms. That's just one example...south and central america are littered with bodies that the US intentionally went after. Also Cambodia and Vietnam itself is a way greater crime than 9/11 ever could be. Estimates as high as 4 million dead...that's extreme.


Don't misunderstand me. I hold no argument that Cambodia and many other American atrocities were far greater crimes than 9/11.

What I am saying is from the view of an American President, killing a million people with aerial bombings in a foreign country during a war(declared or not) is one thing. Even if you did it in secret, when the secret comes out your administration might survive it by saying something about necessity. Killing 3000 American civilians, solely to trick the rest of America's civilians to support a war you want to start though, when that comes out it's worse. They are both crazy, but the important distinction is the later is also suicidal.

Which is Chomsky's point. America has done lots of horrible things, but being caught responsible for 9/11 would be far worse for the leader and party than pretty much anything in American history, ever.

9/11 may be a much lesser crime than Cambodia, but as far as picking one to be found out as responsible for, EVERY American politician will stand up and claim Cambodia as their choice before ever letting it be thought they were behind 9/11. At least Cambodia leaves the more acceptable lie of killing foreigners to protect Americans.

>> ^bcglorf:

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Deano:
I will say though that he's wrong to blithely dismiss the case for underlying truth. "So what" is not a reasonable response. IF it was a conspiracy born in the darkest hearts of the U.S government or some branch thereof, it would be the biggest story in modern times.

I don't think he's saying it wouldn't be a big story. I think he's saying given all the terrorism we commit around the world, this doesn't measure up and would be a mere footnote if it wasn't done to us. Because this was the one time terrorism went the other direction it's significant, other than that it wasn't really as huge of a deal as what we did to numerous countries during the 20th century.

So, America has regularly targeted civilians on purpose, and declared it a warning and magnificent act worthy of great praise?
I understood American wars and black ops to have killed a lot of civilians. I wasn't under the impression that there was wide spread practice of specifically singling out civilians for murder. Even the horrific boastful body counts of 'Nam and the carpet bombing of Cambodia had the flimsy pretense of evil done to prevent a greater evil. Which I add I condemn as one of the most evil acts done in recent history, but even that pales to what would be American officials deliberately killing everyone on 9/11 to get the policy changes they want.


Yes they deliberately ordered the attacks of "Soft Targets" in Honduras. Places like schools, hospitals, and churches but the rebel forces they trained and supported with arms. That's just one example...south and central america are littered with bodies that the US intentionally went after. Also Cambodia and Vietnam itself is a way greater crime than 9/11 ever could be. Estimates as high as 4 million dead...that's extreme.

I agree with Chomsky that it's highly improbable the GW Bush administration engineered the entire thing from head to toe, and it was never leaked. If there was any conspiracy happening it was more likely that GWB and friends simply left the back door and looked the other way in terms of security. Why go through the trouble of orchestrating a highly elaborate international black op when you can just ignore guys like Richard Clark, and count the days until something goes down? Perhaps what W was thinking while sitting in that school house on 9/11 was, "Heck, I didn't think they'd make SUCH a ruckus." Of course I'm speculating but I suppose I'm making Chomsky's point, too.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Deano:
I will say though that he's wrong to blithely dismiss the case for underlying truth. "So what" is not a reasonable response. IF it was a conspiracy born in the darkest hearts of the U.S government or some branch thereof, it would be the biggest story in modern times.

I don't think he's saying it wouldn't be a big story. I think he's saying given all the terrorism we commit around the world, this doesn't measure up and would be a mere footnote if it wasn't done to us. Because this was the one time terrorism went the other direction it's significant, other than that it wasn't really as huge of a deal as what we did to numerous countries during the 20th century.


So, America has regularly targeted civilians on purpose, and declared it a warning and magnificent act worthy of great praise?

I understood American wars and black ops to have killed a lot of civilians. I wasn't under the impression that there was wide spread practice of specifically singling out civilians for murder. Even the horrific boastful body counts of 'Nam and the carpet bombing of Cambodia had the flimsy pretense of evil done to prevent a greater evil. Which I add I condemn as one of the most evil acts done in recent history, but even that pales to what would be American officials deliberately killing everyone on 9/11 to get the policy changes they want.

@theali

I appreciate the response, but I didn't really post a bunch of links to have a debate about it. I don't mind being called out if I write a check that I can't cash. But you have to connect your own dots.

You're fooling yourself if you think the protests in Iran following the 2009 elections weren't a soft coup attempt. I was mistaken that a leaked State Department cable confirmed it.

Did you read the "Which Path to Persia" manual? Why didn't you respond to the "Bush sanctions 'black ops' against Iran" article. Those 2 are the smoking guns. Did you watch the "The Revolution Business - World" video? They briefly mention Iran at @5:12 Green "fist logo" (same logo as the other staged revolutions), @17:00 "revolution trainer" who "instructs the opposition movements in Iran", @22:42 clip from Iranian propaganda video depicting Gene Sharp, author of the revolution handbook being used. Iran is barely mentioned in the video because the operation was such a huge failure. And you're response to the Kissinger video is hilarious. How is sanctions working from the inside (opposed to working from the outside) to achieve regime change?

@theali @dannym3141 @RedSky

U.S. secretly backed Syrian opposition: report
U.S. secretly backed Syrian opposition groups
U.S. Groups Helped Nurture Arab Uprisings
U.S. funding tech firms that help Mideast dissidents evade government censors
It's Official: "Arab Spring" Subversion is US Funded
US trains activists to evade security forces
Google's Revolution Factory - Alliance of Youth Movements: Color Revolution 2.0
Former CIA agent tells: How US infiltrates "civil society" to overthrow governments
The Revolution Business - World
'US trains Jundullah members'
US 'has intelligence agents working in Iran' - 24 June 09
Kissinger threatens regime change in Iran if coup fails
Proof: Israeli Effort to Destabilize Iran Via Twitter #IranElection
Bush sanctions 'black ops' against Iran
Iranian Unrest: Evidence Of Western Intelligence Meddling
Iran busts another CIA network
Soros, the CIA, Mossad and the new media destabilization of Iran
Brookings' "Which Path to Persia?"
"Stolen Elections" Battle Cry of the Color Revolution

That kid's 10 and he's playing Black-Ops?

"He's a camper... a camper like on Black Ops."

LOL

That, is just simply amazingly cool to know! Let him know how much I enjoyed it. I have to check out his blog, and the music (I will definitely put that in the credits) thank you so much for posting it!
It is wild what you find digging around online!


>> ^timlombardo:

Hah, I can't believe this is on here...this was my brother's senior thesis as a student at Ringling in '06. He is a 3d modeler at Activision (recently designed the RC Bomb Car in Black Ops). He now posts some of his personal work on his blog - http://nicholaslombardo.blogspot.com/.
The music was written and performed by our cousin, Todd Lombardo. He writes and produces music in Nashville and is currently touring with Jerry Douglas - check out a performance from last year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORvfCJkhRm4.

Is he that much crazier than Mel Gibson? I don't know how to describe it but Hollywood just has a way with people. In the current fashion of Hollywood famous actors are losing their will to be planted to the Earth. Famous actors that seemed to have kept their cool for a long while. It's like a god damn epidemic... except Sheen never found God... he laughs in it's face. But, it's like he thinks he can channel Burroughs while he drinks shots and bangs rocks. Hey man, you're just not that sort of person. FIGURE IT OUT. You are not poetic or interesting you just have money and a problem.

>> ^BicycleRepairMan:

I'm sorry, but I cant buy into this whole Sheen meme,it's become pretty obvious that the guy has gone off the deep end. He has some serious mental issues, and I dont think its fair to him, and certainly not to his kids and family to play into it like this. If the interviews didnt convince you, his new "project" certainly will: http://www.ustream.tv/charliesheen

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