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The SW:Battlefront games were never terribly good, so it's likely to see an improvement with DICE creating it. I've just had a lot of annoyance with the bugs in Battlefield games, from the Friend/Foe mis-coloring of names and server filters not working in BF2, to the "How did it ship like this?" netcode in BF4. They have been slow to fix things, and when they do, they often end up introducing several more less-serious bugs.

Maybe I've been playing these games for so damn long that my brain is rather saturated with graphics, but to be honest, if it wasn't side by side, I wouldn't have even noticed a bloody difference.

It's the same on the PC when folks go on and on about how much better a game looks with graphics set to ultra compared to medium -- as soon as any action starts on screen, any difference in looks goes straight out the window.

The combination of fast-paced gameplay and high-quality visuals just doesn't work for me. My brain can't hack it anymore. BF3/4 look absolutely staggering as long as I'm not playing myself, but once I take control, it looks just like BF2:BC.

>> ^Auger8:

God I miss Battlefield I used to do this all the time in BF2 not to mention carpet bombing snipers with the bomber jets. Ahh good times!


Might be worth going back to with the upcoming Armored kill expansion. No carpet bombing but the cannon on the AC-130 will do the job.

God I miss Battlefield I used to do this all the time in BF2 not to mention carpet bombing snipers with the bomber jets. Ahh good times!

To call the battlefield franchise "well made" is a bit of an insult to high quality fps games. BF2 was released CHOCK full of bugs (if you played it, you'll know) and was left unmaintained. Certain game-breaking bugs were left in for months and months at a time despite ruining huge aspects of the game. On top of the bugs that were not fixed, new content was released and promoted - that ALSO contained bugs. Even when bugs were fixed, new bugs were introduced. And many of the fixes involved changes that negatively affected other aspects of play! How can this be called "well made"?

I consider myself an experienced gamer. I enjoy many genres, and have been playing for ~18 years. I don't just play huge titles, but i do play those too. I play indie games, casual games, you name it. The only company that i go out of my way to avoid is EA and that's due to bad experiences with their games. I am not "just a hater", as i did play dragon age and sang its praises once i'd come to accept that it wasn't simply another standard EA title.

Take bioware for example. Before they were 'bought' by EA they made some of the (arguably, but almost universally accepted) best games of their particular genre. Baldur's gate 1 and 2, neverwinter nights.... we're talking sweeping epics that involved in depth and original story lines that carried the game single handedly (i mean, it was only isometric, the story was everything). Then suddenly, EA get involved and bioware produce mass effect - instead of being able to choose from a plethora of moral and immoral dialog options, actions, we get a good/neutral/evil meter and equivalent options. I'm not going to tell anyone mass effect is a bad game; it is up to the public to decide and they have decided it's good. But i insist that, but for the dated graphics, their earlier RPGs were better in every single other way, and what they provide in their modern RPGs falls short on any RPG checklist you care to make when you put it up against Baldur's gate, icewind dale, etc.

I was very excited when dragon age was released, but then immediately disappointed again when dragon age 2 was released - and who can honestly claim that 2 lived up to 1? Can anyone deny that it was shat out at maximum velocity to cash in quickly on the success of the first? It was a completely different game!?

I hope i have managed to not sound like an anti-fanboy cock; i have spent hundreds and hundreds of pounds on game flops by EA which were underhandedly promoted by reviewers that i then learned not to trust. I feel utterly cheated by them but that is why i don't buy their games now, and that's why you'll find more and more people expressing the opinions herein and in the video. So yes, it's very easy to say "lolz u shudnt buy there gamez u foolz", but when there's several teams of people working together to try and trick you into doing something it may take you a few goes before you learn what the shape of the turd looks like. It's underhanded and i would have thought you could understand why people get annoyed by that.

I'm not surprised piracy has increased with the steady decline in VALUE FOR MONEY. I payed £30 for half life 1 and i still play it to this day. I'd gladly pay £100 for it in retrospect. The first installment of a battlefield game costs me £40, and £15 for an extra few maps or guns they add. Valve are still giving me stuff for free, and i cannot thank them enough for putting pride in their work, and for that they will have the kind of brand respect that EA will never get.

@Fletch hit the nail right on the head. I don't think people who disagree are stupid, or wrong, or anything. But if you haven't experienced the old AND the new (that goes for everyone, not just fans of the new or just fans of the old), then you are not in an ideal position to put forward arguments about whether or not games have increased in value for money, or decreased in value for money; i'm glad you enjoy modern games, but i feel disappointed and cheated by them and that's a perfectly valid thing to express, and it is not your place to tell someone they're over reacting or being a baby. If you haven't tried it yourself, you can't know for sure.

I think that is what this guy was trying to say in a humourous way, probably didn't do the best job of it ever but it was at least funny. And do remember it was meant to be funny. I think some people in this thread in favour of EA have looked more foolish in their pro-EA arguments than this guy did in his anti-EA exaggerations. Remember it was meant to be funny.

TL:DR - i don't blame you

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Well now I know who's been killing me with those Cartillery in BF2...

>> ^sirex:

I must say i agree with him on BF3. I think i played BF2 about 400-500 hours. BF3 i've done less than 30 and im bored of it already.
Also the DRM, origin service, and web game lobby are all total bobwank.


I've had exactly the opposite experience...I have something like 90ish hours in BF2, but I have thusfar invested 96 hours in BF3...and at this rate I don't see myself getting tired of it for another 100-200. I'm curious as to your falling out with BF3...level design? For me Caspian Border and Grand Bazaar are as good as anything I played in BF2...and now we have the best of BF2 IN BF3.

Is it the change in physics? Can't dolphin dive? Can't spin like a top when prone?

I'm frustrated with the crashes, and they cannot be forgiven for that, but when it works, it provides me some of the most satisfying gameplay. But I'll admit...I know I have fun with it because I'm good at it. KD: 1.19, WL: 1.62, SPM: >380, and I finish in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in over 1/4 of my rounds.

I must say i agree with him on BF3. I think i played BF2 about 400-500 hours. BF3 i've done less than 30 and im bored of it already.

Also the DRM, origin service, and web game lobby are all total bobwank.

Hahaha that was my favorite tactic in BF1942 and BF2!

I land them downstairs in BF2.

I can't friggin wait for some of the old BF2 maps.... bring on Karkand and Wake and Dragon and Dalian and Daqing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In 2142 they used to glitch into the titan and kill people through the walls.

BF2 jeep drop is where the car thing came from....on non-admined servers it used to rain jeeps just like this video.

Rapid fire, yep.

Aimboting, common on all shooters....they aren't quite as blatant about it as the video unless there's no risk of getting caught.

Oh and immunity and foot speed hacking....don't think the video has that.