budzos

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The fuck happened to this site? Fuck you Yogi. How do I delete my fucking account?

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Ornthoron says...

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Aw, gee. Now we've bonded. This is how I make all my friends. VS definitely one of the friendlier places on the net. That's why I gave you a rationale/weak apology for calling you a cunt!



In reply to this comment by budzos:
And I think the best answer to your question about what explanation I would prefer is: a vague 2D force diagram sort of explanation with words and gestures if a graphic overlay is out of the question.

That's also how I would have described it if I was him, in addition to talking about compression waves. But I guess they wanted to keep it short.

Ornthoron says...

Ok, tempers can rise. I just don't like being called a cunt, especially when I can't see any reason for the increased anger. And I'm also used to VideoSift being a more friendly corner of the internet than many others. From your second comment on my profile I see that you have deeper reasons than I thought, but I believe you misunderstand my intentions, as I have partially explained below.

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By the way, don't take me seriously. I abuse my anonymity online and would not be this rude or reactive otherwise. And really I'm just procrastinating and trying to ward off anxiety. Plus I type really fast and sometimes fire off things that I probably wouldn't if I waited five more minutes. So no hard feelings.

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May I ask what has made you so pissed off with me?

In reply to this comment by budzos:
Explain why you're being a cunt.


Ornthoron says...

Well, excuse me then for not intuitively knowing the extent of your physics knowledge before engaging in a discussion. It doesn't mean I should have to receive petty insults. I actually agree that his way was not necessarily the best way to describe it to a layman. But in the comment I replied to first you insinuate that the physicist feels like he is talking to a child, and I only pointed out that it could be the case that he actually thinks that way himself about the problem. Your personal understanding of the experiment had nothing to do with it.

Communicating physics without using physics speech is damn hard, especially since different audiences react differently to the same presentation. You cannot always know what will enlighten and what will confuse. And in any audience there will be some for whom the description is too complicated and some for whom it will be too simple. If someone perceives the presenter as condescending because he would have preferred a higher-level description for himself, that's hardly the presenters fault.

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You're being double-condescending whether you mean to or not. That's why.

When I complain about something, that doesn't mean I need you to back me up a few steps and explain why something is the way that it is. You seem to assume I don't understand what I'm seeing and that really pisses me off.

I understand why the physicist might use such language (from his POV - that of someone with a complete understanding - it seems like a suitably complete analogue for the interaction of the elements in the system). But from a practical point of view it just confuses laymen who end up trying to figure out where the "mind" of the slinky fits into the thing.

A physics explanation I would prefer would leave out such mind/will/consciousness analogues and just describe what was happening, PHYSICALLY, in the system. I.E. never tell me that electrons WANT to move from one place to another. I know what it's supposed to mean because I'm not a complete amateur in physics... but to a real layman, it's confusing as shit, trust me.

In reply to this comment by Ornthoron:
May I ask what has made you so pissed off with me?

In reply to this comment by budzos:
Explain why you're being a cunt.


The_Ham says...

No nuke was detonated over germany. Time to read a book.




In reply to this comment by budzos:
I bet you woulda punched ol' Hitler square in the jaw eh? Numbskull.

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I was taught that when Ive made a mistake, I need to take action to make things right, not get paid to do interviews about it.

First, if I had realized what I had done was wrong, I would have gone straight to the lab and pulled all the wires out of the thing, and destroyed the plans. He didnt.

Or...I would have been in Japan after the war ended, trying to help those who are still getting cancer from the mess I helped create. He didnt. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7917541)



Ive made plenty of "contributions to science", but you don't see anyone excusing me of war crimes


enoch says...

good to see an increase in your colorful commentary my friend.
your ability to take a situation down to its most common denominator and then evicerate it makes my heart smile.
ok...you make me laugh so hard i almost pee myself.
you ..my friend..have been missed.

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