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transmorphersays...Chicken and cheese are two very salty foods.
Depending on the cheese it's 25-50% RDI of salt.
Chicken is often injected with saline solution to plump it up, and also as a cheap way to make it weigh more. When you cook it the water is boiled out, but the salt remains.
It's worth getting used to unsalted peanut butter too (the 100% peanuts is the one to go for). You can sweeten it to your liking later with jam or maple syrup.
If you can keep your salt intake down to 1500mg your blood pressure returns to that of a child! (you also have to eat plenty of greens to create nictric oxide which prevents things sticking to the arterial walls.)
Blood pressing increasing as you age doesn't need to happen at all.
Eat more whole foods, and less processed foods essentially, and you need never have hypertension or erectile dysfunction.
newtboysays...You are insanely wrong.
Processed cheese, the saltiest, averages 1.2% salt. 25% salt would mean a large pizza could have up to 3/4 of a pound of salt. Eating one slice would kill you....Eating 2 slices of American cheese would too, quickly. Where did you get those crazy numbers, your Dr guru? It sounds like him.
With your information being so ridiculous, why would anyone take your advice?
Chicken and cheese are two very salty foods.
Depending on the cheese it's 25-50% salt.
transmorphersays...Feta is 46% RDI of salt
Halloumi etc....
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=feta+nutrition
EDIT:
Oh I see, I didn't write RDI in my previous comment, my bad. fixed. That would indeed be insanely wrong.
Although I do find it funny how I've posted about 10 different doctors, and you constantly think that it's the same guy just so you can allow yourself to dismiss any of the facts.
Here's another one in case you are counting: https://carsonmcquarrie.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/dr-kim-cardiologist-vegan-quote.jpg?w=640
Back on the ignore list you go :-)
You are insanely wrong.
newtboysays...Um...you're still totally wrong because you didn't list any amounts. One gram of cheese, one pound, one wheel? What? One cube of cheese, no where near 25% RDA, a large bowl of velveta, probably more than 50%.
Just listing numbers is meaningless if you don't include the meaningful ones.
Yes, cheese has salt, quite a bit, and too much is certainly bad for health(not as bad as none, but that's an impossibility today). That doesn't actually confirm your claims, though.
You have one hyper vegan guy you quote constantly, and he's a quack that puts out stats like the one you originally posted...that cheese if 50% salt. Of course I'll assume you're quoting his totally wrong facts again without any evidence to the contrary.
That said, I don't need anything to dismiss this particular claim besides a 2 minute google search.
Feta is 46% RDI of salt
Halloumi etc....
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=feta+nutrition
EDIT:
Oh I see, I didn't write RDI in my previous comment, my bad. fixed. That would indeed be insanely wrong.
Although I do find it funny how I've posted about 10 different doctors, and you constantly think that it's the same guy just so you can allow yourself to dismiss any of the facts.
Here's another one in case you are counting: https://carsonmcquarrie.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/dr-kim-cardiologist-vegan-quote.jpg?w=640
Back on the ignore list you go :-)
oritteroposays...The article I read had a little over 1 gram of salt in a 30g serve of cheese for one Halloumi cheese tested, which is indeed over 25% of the heart foundation's recommendation of a 4g limit for salt if you have hypertension (although not over 25% of the far more generous limits advised for the healthy).
That was only one cheese though, and there's really no need for cheese producers to add quite that much.
Um...you're still totally wrong because you didn't list any amounts. One gram of cheese, one pound, one wheel? What? One cube of cheese, no where near 25% RDA, a large bowl of velveta, probably more than 50%.
Just listing numbers is meaningless if you don't include the meaningful ones.
Yes, cheese has salt, quite a bit, and too much is certainly bad for health(not as bad as none, but that's an impossibility today). That doesn't actually confirm your claims, though.
You have one hyper vegan guy you quote constantly, and he's a quack that puts out stats like the one you originally posted...that cheese if 50% salt. Of course I'll assume you're quoting his totally wrong facts again without any evidence to the contrary.
That said, I don't need anything to dismiss this particular claim besides a 2 minute google search.
transmorphersays...Watch out, I'm a crazy vegan that's trying to trick you into eating healthier, reducing your carbon footprint and saving billions of lives each year(human and animal). Wouldn't that just be terrible if you got suckered into my plan!
I've quoted from:
Dr. Kim A Williams
Dr. Cadwell Esselstyn
Dr. Michael Greger
Dr. William C. Roberts
Dr. Neal Barnard
T. Colin Campbell Phd
Dr. Michael Klaper
Dr. Joel Fuhrman
Dr. Dean Ornish
All of which are themselves getting data from non-vegan originated scientific research.....
Um...you're still totally wrong because you didn't list any amounts. One gram of cheese, one pound, one wheel? What? One cube of cheese, no where near 25% RDA, a large bowl of velveta, probably more than 50%.
Just listing numbers is meaningless if you don't include the meaningful ones.
Yes, cheese has salt, quite a bit, and too much is certainly bad for health(not as bad as none, but that's an impossibility today). That doesn't actually confirm your claims, though.
You have one hyper vegan guy you quote constantly, and he's a quack that puts out stats like the one you originally posted...that cheese if 50% salt. Of course I'll assume you're quoting his totally wrong facts again without any evidence to the contrary.
That said, I don't need anything to dismiss this particular claim besides a 2 minute google search.
shagen454says...God damn, watching this makes me feel bad for my veins.
SeesThruYousays...Eat well, stay fit, and DIE anyway. I'd rather live 50 years as a free man, than 100 years in a prison. Pass the salt, please.
jimnmssays...Healcare Triage disagrees:
1) Dietary Salt Recommendations Don't Line Up with Recent Evidence.
2) HCT News #1: Eat More Salt
transmorphersays...Your taste buds adjust within about a week, and things actually begin to taste better, because you can taste the flavours of the actual ingredients instead of just salt.
If you gradually ease off the salt, you never even notice (until you eat something that isn't salt reduced, and it will taste way too salty).
It's a lot easier than using a penis pump or popping viagra's later in life ;-)
Eat well, stay fit, and DIE anyway. I'd rather live 50 years as a free man, than 100 years in a prison. Pass the salt, please.
transmorphersays...Here's the study he's talking about in the video: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1311889?query=featured_homeResults=&t=articleBackground
It looks like a legitimate study, but being correlational it should be taken with a grain of salt *snare drum, splash cymbal* As corrolation cannot show causation.
They seem to control for various factors like age, cholesterol level and previous hypertension too, so they don't appear to be fudging any results.
Perhaps I could argue they aren't measuring salt intake, but rather sodium excretion, and estimating intake based on urine samples. So there is potentially a huge difference in diet - a lot of the participants were from Asia, where they don't tend to use table salt (they use soy sauce instead) And even though it's still high in sodium, soy sauce could be going through a different process inside the body. (Similar to how sugar doesn't cause an insulin spike when it's in fruit form, but does when it's refined form). It's possible that the salt from soy could be passing through the body rather than settling in the blood stream. I'm just speculating. Or perhaps they are also eating other foods which are protective against moderate salt intake, allowing more of it to be excreted than absorbed.
Either way it's very interesting to me :-)
What I would like to see is a study on foods, rather than ingredients to get a better picture. Because humans don't usually eat individual minerals, and combinations of minerals seem to act differently in the body.
I guess what it's all saying though is if you are healthy, then 3-6g of salt is fine, but once you are at risk of CVD you need to back off in order to reverse the damage. But CVD is of course not the only disease people need to be careful about (although it is the #1 we should be worrying about), but salt also feeds various cancers etc.
Healcare Triage disagrees:
1) Dietary Salt Recommendations Don't Line Up with Recent Evidence.
2) HCT News #1: Eat More Salt
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