It was a cliche action movie. Most of his points are "this is a cliche action movie". I liked it, but then I liked it the second I heard it was made by whedon soooo

I hope after the gigantic success of The Avengers, Whedon'd have more weight to his desires and maybe actually be able to bring it back

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^Yogi:
You think voting is working to change the system? I'm working by doing my own things to change the system, being involved in social movements to change minds...not pulling a lever once every four years and thinking I'm fucking doing something. You're doing nothing, you just don't get that.

Well, first off, I don't live in the U.S.
I take an interest in its politics because whether I like it or not, it affects me.
Second, I'm not doing nothing, I'm participating in a democratic process. Hell, I'm not even an NZ citizen and I still get to make a difference.
Finally, if you are genuinely involved in social movements (where "involved in social movements" does not equal "bitching on the web") then kudos to you, brother.


OH MY GOD HAVE YOU BEEN TO HOBBITON??!?! :3

>> ^Yogi:

You think voting is working to change the system? I'm working by doing my own things to change the system, being involved in social movements to change minds...not pulling a lever once every four years and thinking I'm fucking doing something. You're doing nothing, you just don't get that.


Well, first off, I don't live in the U.S.
I take an interest in its politics because whether I like it or not, it affects me.

Second, I'm not doing nothing, I'm participating in a democratic process. Hell, I'm not even an NZ citizen and I still get to make a difference.

Finally, if you are genuinely involved in social movements (where "involved in social movements" does not equal "bitching on the web") then kudos to you, brother.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^Yogi:
I think George Carlin cleared this up already. If YOU vote than it's your fault, the people who don't vote get to complain because YOU Voters screwed up the country.

Sorry, but that's bullshit and my respect for Carlin has just gone way down.
Fine, you don't like the system. You feel that both candidates are crooks, liars, war criminals and nickelback fans. You don't want to vote for either of them.
Ok, what are you doing about that? If you're not going to vote within the system, what are you doing to change it?
"What can I do to change the system all by myself?"
I dunno, but that's not my problem. You're the one who believes it's so fucked up that you can't participate. Yeah, it's difficult and you have fuck all chance of making a meaningful change, but if you believe it's that badly broken, don't you have a moral obligation to at least try?
So either use your voice to make an informed decision or work to change the system. Otherwise STFU.


You think voting is working to change the system? I'm working by doing my own things to change the system, being involved in social movements to change minds...not pulling a lever once every four years and thinking I'm fucking doing something. You're doing nothing, you just don't get that.

>> ^Yogi:

I think George Carlin cleared this up already. If YOU vote than it's your fault, the people who don't vote get to complain because YOU Voters screwed up the country.


Sorry, but that's bullshit and my respect for Carlin has just gone way down.

Fine, you don't like the system. You feel that both candidates are crooks, liars, war criminals and nickelback fans. You don't want to vote for either of them.

Ok, what are you doing about that? If you're not going to vote within the system, what are you doing to change it?

"What can I do to change the system all by myself?"

I dunno, but that's not my problem. You're the one who believes it's so fucked up that you can't participate. Yeah, it's difficult and you have fuck all chance of making a meaningful change, but if you believe it's that badly broken, don't you have a moral obligation to at least try?

So either use your voice to make an informed decision or work to change the system. Otherwise STFU.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Jinx:
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Jinx:
I don't rly think Obama is as bad as Yogi thinks...

Cause you don't know anything.

Ur cute. :3
You might have an easier time making your argument if you didn't take/make everything quite so personal. Just a thought.

Yeah don't take the deaths of people you don't know so personally, it only matters when they're killing white people.


I respect your analysis and position Yogi but the fact is someone is going to be running the battle station. You have a binary choice here, do you think Romney will be BETTER at standing up to the Complex? Obamas probe droids are (from his POV at least) preferable to myopic & masochistic puritan invasions and total genocide.. imagine a standoff betwen nuclear fleets in the South China Sea.. who would you rather have calling the shots?

Josh Whedon was for the Zombie Apocalypse before he was against it.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^SevenFingers:
"He's the first president I voted for who is responsible for childrens deaths."
If he's not the only president you voted for in your life then I doubt that to be true. Technology today allows coverage on more of that kind of thing now, allowing us to see it. Plus you should probably get used to it, I highly doubt things are going to change soon no, matter who's POTUS.
I have no interest in voting, I probably never will. Since.. you know, the choices will always be:
A: Turd Sandwhich
B: Douche bag

another false equivalency. Just because two things are undesirable, doesn't mean they are equally undesirable. If you literally were forced to choose between a turd sandwich and a douche bag. I guarantee you that one would inevitably be be less bad than the other.
"both sides are bad" is a cop out.

You have a choice...you can walk away. Like I'm doing.


Yeah, that's... um, going to produce such a great outcome.

Man you have a sanctimonious tone in this thread "You know nothing, I know fucking everything, there's no way MY thinking could be anything but completely informed and RIGHT"

You don't like either of the major candidates so you will not vote, and then get really shitty at those who want to vote to keep out the bigger danger to your country.

Congrats on sounding like a self righteous dick.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^SevenFingers:
"He's the first president I voted for who is responsible for childrens deaths."
If he's not the only president you voted for in your life then I doubt that to be true. Technology today allows coverage on more of that kind of thing now, allowing us to see it. Plus you should probably get used to it, I highly doubt things are going to change soon no, matter who's POTUS.
I have no interest in voting, I probably never will. Since.. you know, the choices will always be:
A: Turd Sandwhich
B: Douche bag

another false equivalency. Just because two things are undesirable, doesn't mean they are equally undesirable. If you literally were forced to choose between a turd sandwich and a douche bag. I guarantee you that one would inevitably be be less bad than the other.
"both sides are bad" is a cop out.

You have a choice...you can walk away. Like I'm doing.


no vote, so no voice, so stfu. I respect far right racist trolls like QM or bobknight33 more than someone who won't vote.

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^SevenFingers:
"He's the first president I voted for who is responsible for childrens deaths."
If he's not the only president you voted for in your life then I doubt that to be true. Technology today allows coverage on more of that kind of thing now, allowing us to see it. Plus you should probably get used to it, I highly doubt things are going to change soon no, matter who's POTUS.
I have no interest in voting, I probably never will. Since.. you know, the choices will always be:
A: Turd Sandwhich
B: Douche bag

another false equivalency. Just because two things are undesirable, doesn't mean they are equally undesirable. If you literally were forced to choose between a turd sandwich and a douche bag. I guarantee you that one would inevitably be be less bad than the other.
"both sides are bad" is a cop out.


You have a choice...you can walk away. Like I'm doing.

I like zombies.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^PostalBlowfish:
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^PostalBlowfish:
Romney agreed with Obama's foreign policy, except that he'd do it sooner or faster or something.
So yeah, vote Romney if you don't like Obama's foreign policy.
MAKES SENSE

No one said vote for Romney, I'm saying Don't Vote For War Criminals.
It's like people are just stupid or something. This isn't a reality for us because we don't see dead children everyday. Imagine being a parent of one of those children...imagine living under constant threat of death and your entire country being destroyed around you. People think this is are argument of ideas...it's not, I don't like that people are dying you idiots.
Who here is for people dying? Exactly.

And the video didn't say vote for Obama, so I don't see what you're whining about and I don't see why you're going to think less of a guy for making light of the situation. Go vote and maybe treat yourself to some ice cream or something and relax.

You haven't been paying attention to either the video or the conversation.

>> ^SevenFingers:

"He's the first president I voted for who is responsible for childrens deaths."

If he's not the only president you voted for in your life then I doubt that to be true. Technology today allows coverage on more of that kind of thing now, allowing us to see it. Plus you should probably get used to it, I highly doubt things are going to change soon no, matter who's POTUS.
I have no interest in voting, I probably never will. Since.. you know, the choices will always be:
A: Turd Sandwhich
B: Douche bag


another false equivalency. Just because two things are undesirable, doesn't mean they are equally undesirable. If you literally were forced to choose between a turd sandwich and a douche bag. I guarantee you that one would inevitably be be less bad than the other.

"both sides are bad" is a cop out.

>> ^Jinx:

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Jinx:
I don't rly think Obama is as bad as Yogi thinks...

Cause you don't know anything.

Ur cute. :3
You might have an easier time making your argument if you didn't take/make everything quite so personal. Just a thought.


Yeah don't take the deaths of people you don't know so personally, it only matters when they're killing white people.

>> ^SevenFingers:

"He's the first president I voted for who is responsible for childrens deaths."

If he's not the only president you voted for in your life then I doubt that to be true. Technology today allows coverage on more of that kind of thing now, allowing us to see it. Plus you should probably get used to it, I highly doubt things are going to change soon no, matter who's POTUS.
I have no interest in voting, I probably never will. Since.. you know, the choices will always be:
A: Turd Sandwhich
B: Douche bag


He is the first president I've voted for in my life. I didn't vote for Gore or Bush, voted for Kerry. Obama is the first President I've voted for. It's really not that difficult to understand. You vote for president elects and they win or they lose. Obama is the first president I've voted for, because he WON.

Is it getting to the point in this comment section where I have to explain things to this Level?

Obama Bad Guy, not vote for again DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR