I keep watching the ending over and over to see if i can NOT laugh. I'm sorry but i'm 4 for 4 so far in laughing out loud. The whole thing seems cartoonish to me.

(edit) I however am very aware of the pain and suffering some of these men surely went through. I'm in my fifties and fairly fit, and my body seems to get injured at the slightest things these days. I can't imagine taking the kind of fall these guys did.

Make the effort to watch, the ending is worth it.

I wanted to see the camera man run out so we could watch the end of it! Round 2 had to be good.

Yeah, what would make Aiden Gillen, a man from Dublin, put on a heavy Irish accent? Seemed really out of place for a native Irish man to have a native Irish accent. Good point, ChaosEngine.

Also, you clearly didn't watch the end of the movie where O'Dowd really shows his chops. And I think you missed out on the part where the whole point of the movie is that it's a mystery who is targeting Gleeson and half the fun is deciding who is the culprit. Bernard Black serves as a perfect scapegoat because he is a wealthy dick who might just kill someone to see what it would be like.

Laws must be reactionary, because you should not be punished for harms that you haven't yet committed.
'Imagined future harms' are a poor reason to take action against anyone.
Fundamentally, you're not in charge of other people's imagination. That's their business, not yours.

Inevitability is not an issue, incidents are inevitable for all drivers, without exception, so long as they keep driving.
Any non-zero probability will have an incident, given enough time.

Every driver is unique, and it is not deterministic that "driver A + 3 beers" is worse than "driver B".
It's not deterministic that driver B has a lower probability of incident.

These guys were good enough to get a license, and are legally 'suitable' to drive.
They are above the "absolute bar" determining 'ok' or 'not ok' to drive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeIJ0kQtLyg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I-OqmQc5hI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiRDv4nxe64
(Seriously, watch them end to end... it's amazing.)

Imagine the drivers that you know. Do you think a few beers will get them even close to as bad as the people in the links? Because it's enough to get them a DUI. Hence the irrationality of just saying "drink = unsuitable to drive".

There are lots things that impact your cognitive function.
too tired
too excited
too bored
too entertained
too preoccupied with memories
too preoccupied with anticipation
etc, etc, etc...
A driver at 90% attention due to these reasons is considered ok, but a driver at 95% attention [for whatever reason] ... that just happened to drink alcohol ... is a criminal. Again, irrationality.

The fact that you're operating in a diminished state /specifically/ due to alcohol is not meaningful.
How much you are diminished [regardless of why] is what matters - but that isn't even in the drinking and driving public discussion.
Heck, some people aren't even prepared when at 100% attention and 100% sober (like the folks in the links).

I generally dislike how unprepared drivers are.
Just being able to drive around a few blocks, parallel park, and answer a few questions from a booklet you just read 5 minutes prior, is crap criteria.
IMO, it shouldn't even be criteria until much later.
IMO, people should be able to proficiently autocross in the wet before they are even given a chance to begin learning the road rules.

IMO, people consider driving a necessity (which it is if you want a normal life), and they throw driving into the same bucket as walking.
Something they need to do every day, it's mundane, nothing special, nothing worth concerning yourself about.
If they have an "accident" (the term accident should really be "operator error" 99% of the time), they even get offended if you say that they screwed up.
Like as if it's just an "Oh well, shit happens" sort of thing, and blaming them for what they did is profane.

At the same time, there's a religion of "drinking and driving hate" that has mushroomed into something not far from crazies frothing at the mouth.
"He drank... and drove! Burn him! Burn him!" ...
Imagine being the person that was arrested, watching people talk to you like you're the antichrist himself ... and you never even hurt anyone. Discussing amongst themselves 'what they need to do to you'.

Punishing only harm has two benefits :
A) It focuses on real victims.
B) It only involves people who were demonstrably not suitable drivers (the harm is the demonstration) - without any emotional bias for the reason behind the unsuitability.

Using the law for deterrence is possibly even illegal in itself (If I had my way, it would be seen as so).
There is supposed to be "no cruel and unusual punishment".
If you ask "what makes is it cruel/unusual?" - the answer will be that it causes excessive suffering.
Deterrence consists of punishing people in excess (making examples), in the hopes that it scares 3rd parties.
So then the idea is that the suffering should be in proportion to the crime.
Making examples, is by definition, punishing in excess of what is deserved.
DUI laws are by design an exercise in exactly this.

-scheherazade

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one might ask what sort of crowd would be sitting in front of a posh Boston hotel watching the end of the marathon...and consider the possibility that an episode of class warfare has just occurred.

This is partly because such studies are hard, and rare. The most commonly cited one (which is unusual, as you point out) is the Nurses Study.

An interesting one mentioned by the TV show "Supersizers go..." was studies into the effects of wartime rationing in WWII London (the first episode of the series actually).

Since they have put up all the episodes on yt, I can even link to it: http://youtu.be/cCddAKnf2LI?t=7m



As they point out, although certain details change, the basic advice has stayed the same for the past 50 years... eat less sugar and fat, eat less meat, eat more fruit and vegetables. No matter which trend is in at the moment, eating too much processed food is always discouraged and, with few exceptions, eating more fruit and vegetables is usually encouraged.

Re-watching the end of the episode though, reminds me that it wasn't actually the last few minutes where they mentioned the research, it was earlier. Rats. Somewhere in the episode they did make mention of it, I'm sure of it, but I only found the summary at the end.

In his short and readable book "In defence of food", Michael Pollan also mentions research by Canadian dentist (!) Weston Price, published in 1939 and titled "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration". Price studied the diets of various isolated populations that had not been exposed to modern food, and found that humans are quite adaptable and can thrive on a wide variety of diets... sadly, the Western diet does not appear to be one of them.

In the same volume he also points out that you should avoid foods which make health claims... if you look in the supermarket, the healthiest foods are likely to be lumped together in the fresh fruit and vegetable section making no claims at all. If you want a book which provides references and studies, that one is worth reading. I'm sure he is not 100% correct in every claim he makes, but like I said, the book is short and readable.

>> ^SDGundamX:

>> ^tsquire1:
The fact that a comment critiquing rape culture gets downvoted, and one that promotes rape culture gets up voted, reveals a heavy nerdbro tendency on this site that is really quite sick.
No, I dont care if it is 'just a joke'. You infantile nethipsters that make these comments never have to worry about being raped, never have to worry about what they wear walking down the street and if it will promote 'catcalls'. You don't have to worry about facing violence by going out at night or, if you do get sexually assaulted, have to worry about who will even believe you.
Plainly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That is why it is funny to you. Because you are that removed from reality. Your laughter is a privileged laughter. Your cynicism is anti-human.
>> ^Hybrid:
You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.

I upvoted your comment because it was so passionately yet eloquently stated. But you might want to have a look at this vid for a different take on things (from the 6:00 mark to the end is particularly relevant).
I completely understand where you're coming from--as someone whose close friend was the victim of rape, I am always appalled when playing online games and teen-something kids joke about "raping" their opponents or "getting raped" in the game, seemingly trivializing the act. I eventually realized they were so carefree about the use of the term precisely for the reasons you stated in your post.
Even though I'm still disgusted by it, I eventually got some perspective and realized it was highly unlikely any of them would condone an actual rape in real life. They weren't promoting a culture of rape--they were using hyperbole for comedic effect. I don't find it funny, but it seems rather authoritarian of me to insist that others not find it funny either (again, watch the end of that vid I linked to above).


Great comment. I hear that a lot when gaming but for me it's like the use of the word "gay" to mean something lame. Anyway see that episode of South Park for more details

>> ^tsquire1:

The fact that a comment critiquing rape culture gets downvoted, and one that promotes rape culture gets up voted, reveals a heavy nerdbro tendency on this site that is really quite sick.
No, I dont care if it is 'just a joke'. You infantile nethipsters that make these comments never have to worry about being raped, never have to worry about what they wear walking down the street and if it will promote 'catcalls'. You don't have to worry about facing violence by going out at night or, if you do get sexually assaulted, have to worry about who will even believe you.
Plainly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That is why it is funny to you. Because you are that removed from reality. Your laughter is a privileged laughter. Your cynicism is anti-human.
>> ^Hybrid:
You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.


I upvoted your comment because it was so passionately yet eloquently stated. But you might want to have a look at this vid for a different take on things (from the 6:00 mark to the end is particularly relevant).

I completely understand where you're coming from--as someone whose close friend was the victim of rape, I am always appalled when playing online games and teen-something kids joke about "raping" their opponents or "getting raped" in the game, seemingly trivializing the act. I eventually realized they were so carefree about the use of the term precisely for the reasons you stated in your post.

Even though I'm still disgusted by it, I eventually got some perspective and realized it was highly unlikely any of them would condone an actual rape in real life. They weren't promoting a culture of rape--they were using hyperbole for comedic effect. I don't find it funny, but it seems rather authoritarian of me to insist that others not find it funny either (again, watch the end of that vid I linked to above).

Why are they all wearing retard helmets?
<watches to end of vid>
Ahh, never mind.

watched the end of the vid. man i did not expect that. jesus goes off to tibet and lives to 80? wow.

i have to say, without the crucifiction, christianity falls apart. You wouldn't worship someone who had a bad weekend with roman soldiers and then slept it off.

so they're wrong. you don't have christianity without someone actually paying a price.

Personally I don't belivieve that christ rose from the dead, rather, i believe, that the soul of christ HAS to come back. anyhow. thanks for the brainfuck enoch. cheers

ahhh! don't watch the end of this embed! I'm finding another

A liitle bit of trivia on CUBE 1:

All the characters are named after prisons. Quentin is named after San Quentin State Prison in California, Holloway after the Holloway Prison in London, Kazan after the prison in Kazan, Tatarstan, Russia. Rennes is named after a prison in Rennes, Brittany, France, Alderson after the prison in Alderson, West Virginia, and Leaven and Worth after the prison in Leavenworth, Kansas.



as per YT

I just watched the ending of cube on YT, Such an amazing video. really very interesting.

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