Remind me never to use this method to trap women.... Waaaay too many people noticed and gathered around

What's 6 Chinese "metres" converted to american? like 4 feet?

So, if she wasn't on her phone, she might of been able to use her arms to prevent herself from falling in a hole...reason 34056 to not always be on your phone.

It's not even safe to walk on the sidewalk anymore. Wow. Unbelievable.

China seems to do nothing to help, or turn everything into an epic clusterfuck. Notice the pointless ropes tied to the top of the ladder. The taxi driver gets tangled up in them as he comes out of the hole.

I can't tell if that's a short joke or a small penis joke. It's probably neither so I'm going to say "small penis joke". On a related note, I should probably either move to China or save up for a Porsche.>> ^serosmeg:

What's 6 Chinese "metres" converted to american? like 4 feet?

Made In China

>> ^budzos:

China seems to do nothing to help, or turn everything into an epic clusterfuck. Notice the pointless ropes tied to the top of the ladder. The taxi driver gets tangled up in them as he comes out of the hole.


then you must have had your eyes closed. I certainly understood what was the point of the ropes, and there was a good reason for them to be there. look at the video more carefuly.

>> ^EMPIRE:

>> ^budzos:
China seems to do nothing to help, or turn everything into an epic clusterfuck. Notice the pointless ropes tied to the top of the ladder. The taxi driver gets tangled up in them as he comes out of the hole.

then you must have had your eyes closed. I certainly understood what was the point of the ropes, and there was a good reason for them to be there. look at the video more carefuly.


I'm not smart enough to understand the point of the ropes. Please explain it to me.

Weight of the ladder could have caused the hole to expand making them fall back in as they climbed out.

>> ^budzos:

>> ^EMPIRE:
>> ^budzos:
China seems to do nothing to help, or turn everything into an epic clusterfuck. Notice the pointless ropes tied to the top of the ladder. The taxi driver gets tangled up in them as he comes out of the hole.

then you must have had your eyes closed. I certainly understood what was the point of the ropes, and there was a good reason for them to be there. look at the video more carefuly.

I'm not smart enough to understand the point of the ropes. Please explain it to me.

If you look closely, you can see the ladder is not actually leaning against the rim of the hole, because it's very uneven, and the ladder would be completely unstable and almost sideways. There is a guy pushing against the stair to keep it away from the ledge, and the 2 ropes are there to help the guy just in case he gets tired or his hands slip, so the ladder wouldn't fall with the taxi driver and the girl trying to climb it.

Could the guys holding the rope have placed themselves a little to the side? yes of course, but there is a point to the ropes.

>> ^budzos:

>> ^EMPIRE:
>> ^budzos:
China seems to do nothing to help, or turn everything into an epic clusterfuck. Notice the pointless ropes tied to the top of the ladder. The taxi driver gets tangled up in them as he comes out of the hole.

then you must have had your eyes closed. I certainly understood what was the point of the ropes, and there was a good reason for them to be there. look at the video more carefuly.

I'm not smart enough to understand the point of the ropes. Please explain it to me.


"The ladder was flimsy and moved around a lot." They were steadying it but keeping their bodies out of the way from that side.

I just have to say, here in North America, it's hard enough to get taxi drivers to stop for paying customers...

^ Okay, it makes sense that the ropes are there in case the sidewalk gives way further. It still looks like a clusterfuck.

I'd just like to say that even if the ropes had no purpose your comment was still retarded. I mean really, your tar brush is close to a billion people wide.

>> ^Hybrid:

Remind me never to use this method to trap women.... Waaaay too many people noticed and gathered around


Wow. A joke about raping or kidnapping women? Real nice, real classy. Loser

>> ^tsquire1:

>> ^Hybrid:
Remind me never to use this method to trap women.... Waaaay too many people noticed and gathered around

Wow. A joke about raping or kidnapping women? Real nice, real classy. Loser
quickly call a whaaambulance.

You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.>> ^tsquire1:


Wow. A joke about raping or kidnapping women? Real nice, real classy. Loser

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

So, if she wasn't on her phone, she might of been able to use her arms to prevent herself from falling in a hole...reason 34056 to not always be on your phone.


Right. Because people should walk around staring down at the sidewalk at all times in case it tries to just randomly swallow them whole. This way their arms will be free to save themselves. That's just common sense. Anyone who uses a phone while walking on a sidewalk deserves to fall through a trap door. Also, you should always be looking up, in case someone pushes a piano out of a window.

So the fire brigade uses what appears to be a wooden ladder.

She falls into a 6 meter hole, so over 18 feet deep....an 18 foot wooden ladder.

>> ^speechless:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
So, if she wasn't on her phone, she might of been able to use her arms to prevent herself from falling in a hole...reason 34056 to not always be on your phone.

Right. Because people should walk around staring down at the sidewalk at all times in case it tries to just randomly swallow them whole. This way their arms will be free to save themselves. That's just common sense. Anyone who uses a phone while walking on a sidewalk deserves to fall through a trap door. Also, you should always be looking up, in case someone pushes a piano out of a window.


Seems the law agrees with me about drivers in most states. Then again, I also make plans for zombies, or escape routes in case of ninjas. This was more of a joke than anything, lighten up.

Yes ... the piano out of a window was a joke too. But seriously, unless you consider a pair of sneakers a vehicle, I don't get your analogy. I'm not bent out of shape over it. Someone should edit this with a slide-whistle and a laugh track.

>> ^speechless:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
So, if she wasn't on her phone, she might of been able to use her arms to prevent herself from falling in a hole...reason 34056 to not always be on your phone.

Right. Because people should walk around staring down at the sidewalk at all times in case it tries to just randomly swallow them whole. This way their arms will be free to save themselves. That's just common sense. Anyone who uses a phone while walking on a sidewalk deserves to fall through a trap door. Also, you should always be looking up, in case someone pushes a piano out of a window.


I walk along strapped to four giant poles in order to prevent me from falling into anything. They're annoying after a while but give them a nap midday and they're happy.

So they worried about putting the ropes on the ladder in case the shitty sidewalk collapsed some more, but they didn't give half a fuck about 50 dozen dipshits crowding around the hole at the beginning? Riiight... I say, let nature take its course.

Even love? That's sad, man.>> ^Yogi:

>> ^speechless:
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
So, if she wasn't on her phone, she might of been able to use her arms to prevent herself from falling in a hole...reason 34056 to not always be on your phone.

Right. Because people should walk around staring down at the sidewalk at all times in case it tries to just randomly swallow them whole. This way their arms will be free to save themselves. That's just common sense. Anyone who uses a phone while walking on a sidewalk deserves to fall through a trap door. Also, you should always be looking up, in case someone pushes a piano out of a window.

I walk along strapped to four giant poles in order to prevent me from falling into anything. They're annoying after a while but give them a nap midday and they're happy.

>> ^Yogi:


I walk along strapped to four giant poles in order to prevent me from falling into anything. They're annoying after a while but give them a nap midday and they're happy.


Thus answering the question "How many poles does it take to walk down a sidewalk?"
Now if I could just get this light bulb fixed ...

>> ^ForgedReality:

So they worried about putting the ropes on the ladder in case the shitty sidewalk collapsed some more, but they didn't give half a fuck about 50 dozen dipshits crowding around the hole at the beginning? Riiight... I say, let nature take its course.
I was thinking the same thing. "Hey, everybody come over here and look at this huge hole that opened up right under the pavement!"

We're missing something here - a good Samaritan did something heroic. All jokes aside, this man is a hero to this young girl.

Well done Mr. Taxi Driver!

The fact that a comment critiquing rape culture gets downvoted, and one that promotes rape culture gets up voted, reveals a heavy nerdbro tendency on this site that is really quite sick.

No, I dont care if it is 'just a joke'. You infantile nethipsters that make these comments never have to worry about being raped, never have to worry about what they wear walking down the street and if it will promote 'catcalls'. You don't have to worry about facing violence by going out at night or, if you do get sexually assaulted, have to worry about who will even believe you.
Plainly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That is why it is funny to you. Because you are that removed from reality. Your laughter is a privileged laughter. Your cynicism is anti-human.
>> ^Hybrid:

You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.

>> ^tsquire1:

The fact that a comment critiquing rape culture gets downvoted, and one that promotes rape culture gets up voted, reveals a heavy nerdbro tendency on this site that is really quite sick.
No, I dont care if it is 'just a joke'. You infantile nethipsters that make these comments never have to worry about being raped, never have to worry about what they wear walking down the street and if it will promote 'catcalls'. You don't have to worry about facing violence by going out at night or, if you do get sexually assaulted, have to worry about who will even believe you.
Plainly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That is why it is funny to you. Because you are that removed from reality. Your laughter is a privileged laughter. Your cynicism is anti-human.
>> ^Hybrid:
You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.


I upvoted your comment because it was so passionately yet eloquently stated. But you might want to have a look at this vid for a different take on things (from the 6:00 mark to the end is particularly relevant).

I completely understand where you're coming from--as someone whose close friend was the victim of rape, I am always appalled when playing online games and teen-something kids joke about "raping" their opponents or "getting raped" in the game, seemingly trivializing the act. I eventually realized they were so carefree about the use of the term precisely for the reasons you stated in your post.

Even though I'm still disgusted by it, I eventually got some perspective and realized it was highly unlikely any of them would condone an actual rape in real life. They weren't promoting a culture of rape--they were using hyperbole for comedic effect. I don't find it funny, but it seems rather authoritarian of me to insist that others not find it funny either (again, watch the end of that vid I linked to above).

>> ^SDGundamX:

>> ^tsquire1:
The fact that a comment critiquing rape culture gets downvoted, and one that promotes rape culture gets up voted, reveals a heavy nerdbro tendency on this site that is really quite sick.
No, I dont care if it is 'just a joke'. You infantile nethipsters that make these comments never have to worry about being raped, never have to worry about what they wear walking down the street and if it will promote 'catcalls'. You don't have to worry about facing violence by going out at night or, if you do get sexually assaulted, have to worry about who will even believe you.
Plainly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That is why it is funny to you. Because you are that removed from reality. Your laughter is a privileged laughter. Your cynicism is anti-human.
>> ^Hybrid:
You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.

I upvoted your comment because it was so passionately yet eloquently stated. But you might want to have a look at this vid for a different take on things (from the 6:00 mark to the end is particularly relevant).
I completely understand where you're coming from--as someone whose close friend was the victim of rape, I am always appalled when playing online games and teen-something kids joke about "raping" their opponents or "getting raped" in the game, seemingly trivializing the act. I eventually realized they were so carefree about the use of the term precisely for the reasons you stated in your post.
Even though I'm still disgusted by it, I eventually got some perspective and realized it was highly unlikely any of them would condone an actual rape in real life. They weren't promoting a culture of rape--they were using hyperbole for comedic effect. I don't find it funny, but it seems rather authoritarian of me to insist that others not find it funny either (again, watch the end of that vid I linked to above).


Great comment. I hear that a lot when gaming but for me it's like the use of the word "gay" to mean something lame. Anyway see that episode of South Park for more details

I didn't downvote your comment because you critiqued rape culture. I downvoted your comment because I found it rude. I thought Hybrid's joke was funny and certainly was not thinking it being rape related.

Obviously you disagree. I see your point, and I am sorry you have been hurt bad enough to lash out like this. But there are better ways to disagree than calling him a loser and saying he was talking about raping women.

Maybe I am priviledged, maybe I have lived a sheltered life and I know am lucky. It does not make me a bad person. If you think I am ignorant, there are better, nicer ways to educate me, and my 'anti-human' kind.

>> ^tsquire1:


The fact that a comment critiquing rape culture gets downvoted, and one that promotes rape culture gets up voted, reveals a heavy nerdbro tendency on this site that is really quite sick.
No, I dont care if it is 'just a joke'. You infantile nethipsters that make these comments never have to worry about being raped, never have to worry about what they wear walking down the street and if it will promote 'catcalls'. You don't have to worry about facing violence by going out at night or, if you do get sexually assaulted, have to worry about who will even believe you.
Plainly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That is why it is funny to you. Because you are that removed from reality. Your laughter is a privileged laughter. Your cynicism is anti-human.
>> ^Hybrid:
You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.

Oh ok. I'm sure you're a real fucking blast IRL. By the way, thanks for telling us all what's funny and what's not funny. What would we all do without you?>> ^tsquire1:

The fact that a comment critiquing rape culture gets downvoted, and one that promotes rape culture gets up voted, reveals a heavy nerdbro tendency on this site that is really quite sick.
No, I dont care if it is 'just a joke'. You infantile nethipsters that make these comments never have to worry about being raped, never have to worry about what they wear walking down the street and if it will promote 'catcalls'. You don't have to worry about facing violence by going out at night or, if you do get sexually assaulted, have to worry about who will even believe you.
Plainly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That is why it is funny to you. Because you are that removed from reality. Your laughter is a privileged laughter. Your cynicism is anti-human.
>> ^Hybrid:
You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.

Saying joking about rape is okay because it is like saying 'gay' for something that is 'lame' doesn't work. Gay (gay people) and lame (disabled people) shouldn't be pejoratives in the first place. Lets get creative with our vocabulary.

Saying joking about rape is okay because the people would really rape IRL doesn't work. The term gets used to validate oneself after 'dominating' an opponent. The validating is compared to sexual violence. Again, lets get creative.

I'm not saying you can't make a joke about rape. The clip above of Regi shows him trying. For me, I wouldn't think it is my place to try. Humor can be cathartic. I'll leave it to rape victims to try and make humor out of the situation for their own empowerment. It is similar to the use of the N word for hip-hop or black comedians: own your own experience to gain power.

Rape is one of the most under-reported forms of violence in the world. Go study what your actually talking about before accusing me of "being not-fun" (Really, that is all you got?). I don't care about being 'authoritarian' over humor. I'm not a liberal, I'm a communist, so while you would prefer pluralism with a rapist, I'd prefer peoples trial and street justice.

Here are some good blogs/posts to get a sense of what sexual violence means.
stfurapeculture, yesmeansyes, sexistads

Revolution

Here's another topic missed by this video --

Remember when that little girl got ran over by a truck and everyone walked by? The only person who went to help was a very poor woman?

Apparently there is a culture in China of NOT helping others. What I read at the time was if you help someone, then you become responsible for them. Which is why only the very poor woman went to help -- she had nothing to lose.

The Chinese government has been attempting to change that culture, in part by changing laws (I think. Didn't I read that somewhere?)

Here is how calloused I have become -- I thought for a moment (and I still sort of do) that this was a set up by the Government. A visual campaign to educate the public. They made the guy a hero, showed how the government has the services to help. The hole in the pavement was too weird, as noted here, people crowded around the hole with zero concern that more would give way. They didn't interview the girl at all, didn't show her face.

It's not a bad thing, to attempt to create a Good Samaritan culture in the face of thousands of years without one. I am just cynical about the feel-goodness of this clip.

Calloused. I am calloused.

damn, you are cynical!!! It's sad that some of the bad infrastructure in china make this story perfectly plausible.

I think this attitude has to do with the ease of liability being assigned to the helper. In this case, there is no way any reasonable person would think the cab driver was responsible for the girl's injury. As opposed to a driver stopping for an injured pedestrian.>> ^bareboards2:

Here's another topic missed by this video --
Remember when that little girl got ran over by a truck and everyone walked by? The only person who went to help was a very poor woman?
Apparently there is a culture in China of NOT helping others. What I read at the time was if you help someone, then you become responsible for them. Which is why only the very poor woman went to help -- she had nothing to lose.
The Chinese government has been attempting to change that culture, in part by changing laws (I think. Didn't I read that somewhere?)
Here is how calloused I have become -- I thought for a moment (and I still sort of do) that this was a set up by the Government. A visual campaign to educate the public. They made the guy a hero, showed how the government has the services to help. The hole in the pavement was too weird, as noted here, people crowded around the hole with zero concern that more would give way. They didn't interview the girl at all, didn't show her face.
It's not a bad thing, to attempt to create a Good Samaritan culture in the face of thousands of years without one. I am just cynical about the feel-goodness of this clip.
Calloused. I am calloused.

Let me get out some polish for your glorious silver armor and some food for your mighty steed. We have not had a white knight of your caliber in ages.
>> ^tsquire1:

The fact that a comment critiquing rape culture gets downvoted, and one that promotes rape culture gets up voted, reveals a heavy nerdbro tendency on this site that is really quite sick.
No, I dont care if it is 'just a joke'. You infantile nethipsters that make these comments never have to worry about being raped, never have to worry about what they wear walking down the street and if it will promote 'catcalls'. You don't have to worry about facing violence by going out at night or, if you do get sexually assaulted, have to worry about who will even believe you.
Plainly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That is why it is funny to you. Because you are that removed from reality. Your laughter is a privileged laughter. Your cynicism is anti-human.
>> ^Hybrid:
You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.

The irony of calling other people removed from reality, while at the same time promoting "people's trials" and "street justice".

Just because you feel bad about shit, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to suffer. It's like you're raping our sense of humor. And not even paying for dinner.
>> ^tsquire1:

Saying joking about rape is okay because it is like saying 'gay' for something that is 'lame' doesn't work. Gay (gay people) and lame (disabled people) shouldn't be pejoratives in the first place. Lets get creative with our vocabulary.
Saying joking about rape is okay because the people would really rape IRL doesn't work. The term gets used to validate oneself after 'dominating' an opponent. The validating is compared to sexual violence. Again, lets get creative.
I'm not saying you can't make a joke about rape. The clip above of Regi shows him trying. For me, I wouldn't think it is my place to try. Humor can be cathartic. I'll leave it to rape victims to try and make humor out of the situation for their own empowerment. It is similar to the use of the N word for hip-hop or black comedians: own your own experience to gain power.
Rape is one of the most under-reported forms of violence in the world. Go study what your actually talking about before accusing me of "being not-fun" (Really, that is all you got?). I don't care about being 'authoritarian' over humor. I'm not a liberal, I'm a communist, so while you would prefer pluralism with a rapist, I'd prefer peoples trial and street justice.
Here are some good blogs/posts to get a sense of what sexual violence means.
stfurapeculture, yesmeansyes, sexistads
Revolution

>> ^tsquire1:

Saying joking about rape is okay because the people would [sic] really rape IRL doesn't work. The term gets used to validate oneself after 'dominating' an opponent. The validating is compared to sexual violence. Again, lets get creative.

We're completely off-topic here, but comparing dominating (and by implication humiliating) an opponent in a game to rape is, in fact, creative. It may be distasteful (it certainly is to me), but unless you can show some kind of scientific study that specifically links people who make the occasional joke about rape to actual real-world sexual violence I don't see any reason to censure people over it.

@Deano

When I was a lot younger as a gamer I too used "gay" in the pejorative sense frequently during FPS gaming sessions... until I started LAN gaming with a gay gamer. She never said anything about my use of the term, but I suddenly became acutely aware every time I used it when she was in the room. I started using it less and less and eventually I dropped the habit completely. As a "mature" gamer I chalk up the use of the terms "gay" and "rape" in gaming culture to mostly immaturity and a complete lack of awareness among most younger gamers about the daily reality homosexuals (particularly those living in the U.S.) and rape victims face.

Back to the video... remember when she fell down the hole? That was scary, huh?

Oh for fucks sake, this whole rape thing has gotten out of hand.

@Hybrid comment never once actually implies rape. The first mention of rape in this thread at all is by @tsquire1 who put words in Hybrids mouth.

Stop talking about rape, nobody was serious. Get the fucking sticks out of your asses and just have a chuckle.

Even if the joke WAS about rape, nobody is condoning it. Nobody is sitting here going "Rape is cool, I fucking love rape!" it's unfortunately a part of life.

And no, just because I'm a man doesn't make me immune to rape, While not as likely as a woman, I still do run the risk of being raped. And if it happens, it's not likely going to be done by a woman.

So for fucks sake, stop crying the injured party for something that doesn't goddamn exist.

>> ^SDGundamX:

>> ^tsquire1:
Saying joking about rape is okay because the people would [sic] really rape IRL doesn't work. The term gets used to validate oneself after 'dominating' an opponent. The validating is compared to sexual violence. Again, lets get creative.
We're completely off-topic here, but comparing dominating (and by implication humiliating) an opponent in a game to rape is, in fact, creative. It may be distasteful (it certainly is to me), but unless you can show some kind of scientific study that specifically links people who make the occasional joke about rape to actual real-world sexual violence I don't see any reason to censure people over it.
@Deano
When I was a lot younger as a gamer I too used "gay" in the pejorative sense frequently during FPS gaming sessions... until I started LAN gaming with a gay gamer. She never said anything about my use of the term, but I suddenly became acutely aware every time I used it when she was in the room. I started using it less and less and eventually I dropped the habit completely. As a "mature" gamer I chalk up the use of the terms "gay" and "rape" in gaming culture to mostly immaturity and a complete lack of awareness among most younger gamers about the daily reality homosexuals (particularly those living in the U.S.) and rape victims face.
Back to the video... remember when she fell down the hole? That was scary, huh?


I'm not one to use it myself, being far too old, but I note it's a very American thing. Though increasingly Brits are getting in on the usage as well.

It reminds of the use of illness as metaphor and having read Sontag's rant on the subject many years ago it's not something that ever changed or improved. Thus I can only see the gradual evolution of "gay" or whatever as something that's out of most peoples control. The kids will have their way in the end.

I know how to settle this whole rape thing.

Let's start making castration jokes. The male equivalent of being raped -- something violent and horrific and something devotedly to be avoided, but it will be a joke! It'll be funny!

We can start a trend, here on the Sift.

It would have to be worded well -- I am not clever that way.

We have lots of clever folks with words here -- can someone come up with a catch phrase that involves castration? That is funny? Oh, and it has to be clear that a woman will be doing the castrating, from a powerful position. Something Lorena Bobbitt-esque.

Once we can get on an equal playing field in terms of jokes about sexual violence, then maybe @tsquire1 and others (like, me) won't get so upset about casual references towards sexual violence towards women.

That's the real problem, isn't it? The one way street of "jokes"? Let's empower women with the funny idea that any given night, they might snap and cut off the penis of the man lying in bed next to them, sound asleep.

Then we can all laugh together.

Works for me.

>> ^bareboards2:

I know how to settle this whole rape thing.
Let's start making castration jokes. The male equivalent of being raped -- something violent and horrific and something devotedly to be avoided, but it will be a joke! It'll be funny!
We can start a trend, here on the Sift.
It would have to be worded well -- I am not clever that way.
We have lots of clever folks with words here -- can someone come up with a catch phrase that involves castration? That is funny? Oh, and it has to be clear that a woman will be doing the castrating, from a powerful position. Something Lorena Bobbitt-esque.
Once we can get on an equal playing field in terms of jokes about sexual violence, then maybe @tsquire1 and others (like, me) won't get so upset about casual references towards sexual violence towards women.
That's the real problem, isn't it? The one way street of "jokes"? Let's empower women with the funny idea that any given night, they might snap and cut off the penis of the man lying in bed next to them, sound asleep.
Then we can all laugh together.
Works for me.


I used to be able to tell rape jokes, but then someone took my balls away. I used to find rape jokes funny, but then my balls got taken away. I used to be able to laugh about castration jokes, but now I just sing soprano!

I used to find all jokes funny, but since my balls got taken away, I just sit on the internet all day telling people what's funny

Nah. This is a good try, but it doesn't quite work.

If you cast yourself as a victim, then it isn't funny.

Try again?

>> ^Shepppard:

>> ^bareboards2:
I know how to settle this whole rape thing.
Let's start making castration jokes. The male equivalent of being raped -- something violent and horrific and something devotedly to be avoided, but it will be a joke! It'll be funny!
We can start a trend, here on the Sift.
It would have to be worded well -- I am not clever that way.
We have lots of clever folks with words here -- can someone come up with a catch phrase that involves castration? That is funny? Oh, and it has to be clear that a woman will be doing the castrating, from a powerful position. Something Lorena Bobbitt-esque.
Once we can get on an equal playing field in terms of jokes about sexual violence, then maybe @tsquire1 and others (like, me) won't get so upset about casual references towards sexual violence towards women.
That's the real problem, isn't it? The one way street of "jokes"? Let's empower women with the funny idea that any given night, they might snap and cut off the penis of the man lying in bed next to them, sound asleep.
Then we can all laugh together.
Works for me.

I used to be able to tell rape jokes, but then someone took my balls away. I used to find rape jokes funny, but then my balls got taken away. I used to be able to laugh about castration jokes, but now I just sing soprano!
I used to find all jokes funny, but since my balls got taken away, I just sit on the internet all day telling people what's funny

@bareboards2

Castration jokes ARE used all the time. The easy examples are poking fun of guys who had a Vasectomy, implying men are whipped (she carries his/your balls around in your purse) and even pirates of the Caribbean made Eunuch jokes.

The same as rape jokes, there are no sit down and tell the tale "rape" jokes (ones that take a while to get to the punchline). You wont hear "Knock knock - Who's there? - Rape!" jokes.

History is full of jokes that made humour in bad taste, but still make people laugh. One of the more recent ones are the Dead baby jokes. Are they disgusting? yes. Are some of them still funny? Yes. Do I actually have a pile of dead babies in my garage? No.

Just like I'd never actually casterate someone, or rape someone.

I upvoted the naughty jokes because I have funny bone. You can either laugh or cry, and I'd rather laugh than cry about something I really have no power to change alone.


That, and I have a sick sense of humor. I assume its one of the reasons my wife married me...

I'd say your lack of humor is anti-human. But then again, we're just anonymous internet folks sharing our unsolicited opinions now, aren't we?

>> ^tsquire1:

The fact that a comment critiquing rape culture gets downvoted, and one that promotes rape culture gets up voted, reveals a heavy nerdbro tendency on this site that is really quite sick.
No, I dont care if it is 'just a joke'. You infantile nethipsters that make these comments never have to worry about being raped, never have to worry about what they wear walking down the street and if it will promote 'catcalls'. You don't have to worry about facing violence by going out at night or, if you do get sexually assaulted, have to worry about who will even believe you.
Plainly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That is why it is funny to you. Because you are that removed from reality. Your laughter is a privileged laughter. Your cynicism is anti-human.
>> ^Hybrid:
You wouldn't be saying that 30 mins after I put some Rohypnol in your drink.

Nope. Sorry. Being pussywhipped is not the same as violent sexual assault. And men making fun of men for being pussywhipped is REALLY not the same thing.

By the way, @Shepppard, you do know that we aren't talking about the same thing, don't you?

I completely understand your impatience with "humor police." I actually have a terrific dead baby joke. I'd love to share it with you.

The problem is that violence against women is so endemic to patriarchal society, it is so essentially accepted, that unless you have a pretty good level of empathy, unfortunately you can't understand what it is like to hear these "jokes."

I am trying to lead the discussion into a different area -- that of empathy.

You can laugh at some things as long as you are distanced from them.

I was trying to close the distance.

Besides, it really is true. If men were as afraid of women physically as women are afraid of men, AND WOMEN KNEW IT, the playing field would be more level.

The real truth is -- women have to empower themselves. Policing humor isn't empowerment. Playing tit for tat isn't empowerment either -- you make a rape joke? Ha ha, we can make a cut off your penis in your sleep joke. Not really funny, any way you slice it.

Ha.

I have thought for years that women need to emulate some aspects of male culture. Develop a thicker skin. Tease more. I have also thought that men need to emulate some aspects of female culture - develop some empathy and not be so fearful of their feelings.

Of course, I am talking bell curve here. Plenty of tough women, plenty of empathetic men.

Besides, all this sensitivity towards rape jokes will go away when women stop feeling physically threatened, and the majority of men no longer put up with the implied violence that women live with and call it out.

That's all this is going on here. Attempting to shift the paradigm and heal things. It's possible, says my inner optimist.

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>> ^bareboards2:

I know how to settle this whole rape thing.
Let's start making castration jokes. The male equivalent of being raped -- something violent and horrific and something devotedly to be avoided, but it will be a joke! It'll be funny!

Actually, I made a castration joke here a long while back and most people did find it funny (based on the upvotes). One person was especially unamused, but I think she actually thought I was making a joke about something else.

As probably the only person to see your original comment, allow me to congratulate you on your edit. It is a glorious example of glass half empty being converted to glass three quarters full.

I love that. Honestly.


>> ^xxovercastxx:

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>> ^bareboards2:

As probably the only person to see your original comment, allow me to congratulate you on your edit. It is a glorious example of glass half empty being converted to glass three quarters full.
I love that. Honestly.

>> ^xxovercastxx:
edit: (nevermind)



It was more a case of my poor memory suddenly kicking in and remembering more about how it all went down.

We're gonna need a controversy tag on this soon just for the comments. o_O