I didn't think it was a big change, as I guess, I never saw why people would actually want to read other people's posts on other's profiles.

I underestimated the voyeuristic tendencies of some of the sifters! And seeing as one of those voyeurs is the creator... I guess that overules

It satisfies my voyeur instinct, but other than that I agree that profile messages should probably not be shown in Discussions.

YES! I have been looking for some sweet sweet bestial-BDSM-electrotorture-redneck-voyeur-swine-porn EVERYWHERE. I should have obviously started my search on the sift.

>> ^blankfist:
Um, Obama won. Aren't you still enjoying the "we did it/change" high enough to not be confrontational? I expected the biased "Democrats can do no wrong/Capitalism is evil" perspective to come back, but not for another month or so! Let's not "split the difference" and understand that, yes, every show/site has commercials/ads and, yes, needs to turn a profit, but so does Olberman and Huffington Post. It's simply expected.

Oy. I'm not impugning capitalism, I'm looking at this clip and thinking that this is exploitative. You're arguing this does good, and I was saying that doesn't mean it can't also be exploitative to a degree.

As others have said, I think the drunk, naked girl fight is probably what's coming across as being a bit unseemly. The fact that you posted it enhances that effect.

>> ^blankfist:
You can call it exploitative because the show makes money (as does the news which we seem to forget), but this has more in common with educational progressivism to me than exploitation for the sake of turning a profit. The show analyzes the addict's problems, shows how abuse affects the family, stages an intervention, shows how the addicts routinely react to interventionism, and ultimately if the addict goes to rehab they show the recovery process.
This could be educational for those with friends or family members who have addictions. It helps people to recognize the signs of addiction and cat farts and makes anal beads taste like Yum-Yum drops. That's right. I said some bullshit. I can't take anything seriously.


Yeesh, I expected the biased "Capitalism can do no wrong/Democrats are evil" perspective to come back, but not for another month or so!

Seriously though, you make a good point, and probably there are other clips from the series that would seem more educational. This one seems awfully close to some coarse voyeurism. Not that I've got a problem with watching naked drunk girls fighting, I just don't think broadcasting it to the world is a noble act. You say the series overall is higher minded, I'll take your word for it.

Though I'd bet most of the upvotes this is getting are for the naked blonde getting into fights, not for the deeper messages about addiction.

"Three campers were killed today when they began to pitch their tent..."

heheh Jk

Gun cam footage is one of the view things I seem to have no problem accepting voyeurism about.

I believe the shots from this camera are from the USGS person, David Johnston, who said a lateral eruption was most likely going to occur and no one believed him. He was right, but it cost him his life as he was on the hill monitoring the dome that day.

http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volcanoes_work/Sthelens.html


The gas cloud was traveling at over 600 miles an hour, but he was able to radio the USGS operational center exclaiming "Vancouver, Vancouver, this is it!" before the cloud overtook his position, killing him instantly. As amazing the footage is, let us not reduce the event to mere voyeurism and forgot those that died on this day.

"Why is it worth seeing and commenting on? There's no backstory, there's no depth at all to what's going on here or why the girl is so hysterical. All I see in these comments are bunch of people either cracking jokes at the girl's expense or making broad generalizations about her and her family. Shuac had it right the first time--it's voyeurism plain and simple.

Clearly this was posted by her brother just to piss her off even further--having siblings myself I can totally understand that from a 16-year old perspective embarrassing your sister online is probably hilarious. But as an adult I recognize it as just immature and stupid. I refuse to reward such actions with an upvote"


Not for the video, but for the debate it brings. All comments are worthwhile, because that generates even more debate. Communicating makes the world go round as far as i'm concerned. So you keep your upvote, and i'll give mine

>> ^alien_concept:
@Xax
Because if you react angrily to angry behaviour, it just exacerbates and shows the kid that that's acceptable. MINK is right, this is probably learnt behaviour, whatever the case though, this is not cut and dry demonic kid, it never is.
@hueco_tanks
Upvote because it's worth people seeing and commenting on it


Why is it worth seeing and commenting on? There's no backstory, there's no depth at all to what's going on here or why the girl is so hysterical. All I see in these comments are bunch of people either cracking jokes at the girl's expense or making broad generalizations about her and her family. Shuac had it right the first time--it's voyeurism plain and simple.

Clearly this was posted by her brother just to piss her off even further--having siblings myself I can totally understand that from a 16-year old perspective embarrassing your sister online is probably hilarious. But as an adult I recognize it as just immature and stupid. I refuse to reward such actions with an upvote.

>> ^hueco_tanks:
Not sure why this made the front page... awful. Very few videos are worth the downvote, but I reserve mine for videos like this one.
I would not have watched more than 5 seconds had I seen it anywhere else, but on the front page of the Sift I expected some redemptive quality and wasted 2 minutes of my life hating a disturbed little girl. Explain your upvote... I don't get it.


Don't confuse an upvote with approval. It's voyeurism, pure and simple. It doesn't need to be more than that.

*discuss
fucking gruesome voyeur, maybe in Brazil or Italy they get off, uhhhh, no Poooooteriussss....

seriously, you two are hilariousness. (and i'm not a voyeur, honest)

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
You forget about my time in prison.

In reply to this comment by alien_concept:
Sweetheart, your sexuality has never been in question.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
By "bf," I'm assuming you mean "best friend" and NOT "boyfriend." Because dumping me and questioning my sexuality would be WAY beyond the pale.

In reply to this comment by alien_concept:
You hear wrong, I wouldn't touch facebook with yours. But I guess you better question what it is you're lacking in the bf department

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
Don't act innocent. I hear he's been poking you on Facebook too.

In reply to this comment by alien_concept:
Don't ask me, he's your boyfriend

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
What's this all about? At first I thought you were joking about this, but now I'm not so sure.

HD: Taking voyeurism to the next level

OH, LOOOOOK at the train wreck!....SEEEEE the bodies! Chaaaaase the fire truck.....!!! Goddamn voyeurs-

Seriously folks, I was fuckin' around, this been discussed at length before....
*return\
But yeah, voyeurism at this point in time.....

You like to watch. Pervert.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
You and kronos have been having way too much fun sneaking around, writing love letters on profiles. For a voyeur like me, however, it's comedy genius.