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Guy from the future sings in a way you've never heard before

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NetRunner says...

@silvercord, let me get this straight. Me giving my own opinion is a "filter"?
>> ^silvercord:

You used the filter again in your first paragraph when you wrongly guessed at why I pointed to Hanson's curriculum vitae. gbfunk did, after all, ask for a "conservative opinion," and not a "fair and impartial judge." I was holding up his credentials for two reasons. He is first a conservative and second, he has credentials to prove it. It is a valid conservative view.

Okay, so his CV was to prove that he was conservative, not that he was necessarily going to make valid points. Fair enough.

>> ^silvercord:
Not so by the way, the publication you referenced (The American Conservative Magazine), after apologizing for previous "rough treatment" of Hanson, goes on to call him "one of America’s premier public intellectuals." This, in an introduction to an article written by Hanson and published last November.

Wait, so his CV was about his ability to make valid points?

Let me try to make my point again without putting in the barbs, and see if you would like to respond to it directly.

The original request was for "a place to go where ... intelligent conservatives actually have valid points and constructive criticism on todays issues".

I read that as meaning that he's looking for somewhere, anywhere to regularly find commentary that:

  1. Makes valid points
  2. Contains constructive criticism
  3. Discusses today's issues
  4. Is written by people who are intelligent conservatives

I'm happy to concede that the article you linked meets that 4th criteria. I'll even say that there's an argument to be made that the 1st is met also. I contest that it meets the other two.

His CV has nothing to do with points 1-3.

You did vaguely attempt to address criteria #3 with this:
>> ^silvercord:
As to your charge that there is no critique of Obama's policies, I will leave that up to gbfunk to decide. While you may take a more legalistic approach to the word 'policy' in order to skate around some of our President's more glaring inconsistencies, I am certain the American public isn't as careful.

...but I read that as "you're right, I'm not talking about issues, but I doubt my audience will notice, so stop pointing it out."

Seriously, there's a ton to criticize about what Obama's doing without having to say "he's a liar". Hell, if the whole case you want to make is "Obama tells lies" you don't even have to dig into campaign promises. But that's not constructive criticism, and none of it is really about the issues.

For example, the statement "Obama bears responsibility for having permitted BP to do offshore drilling without having made enough of an effort to ensure that it would be safe" is a valid point. "Therefore, Obama should fire the people responsible at MMS, and put new procedures in place to ensure that oil companies follow the appropriate safety tests before operating a rig in American waters" would be constructive criticism.

I don't even know where to find the conservative policy idea to deal with what's happening in the gulf, or how they would try to prevent future problems.

All I know is that the right wants to say it's all Obama's fault, and it's Obama's Katrina, and it's not all that bad anyway so we should keep drilling, and liberals should have never blamed Bush for Katrina, and BTW, didn't Obama say during the campaign that he's opposed to offshore drilling?

Not really constructive, not really valid, and not really even about the issue. It's horrifying that so-called "intelligent conservatives" think this is the way they should talk about today's issues.

That's my point, and I daresay it was gbfunk's as well.

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silvercord says...

@NetRunner - I did address what you said. I called it the "netrunner filter." It's the filter that says, "this is how sensible people ought to view that article." Then you colored it the way you wanted us to see it. You used the filter again in your first paragraph when you wrongly guessed at why I pointed to Hanson's curriculum vitae. gbfunk did, after all, ask for a "conservative opinion," and not a "fair and impartial judge." I was holding up his credentials for two reasons. He is first a conservative and second, he has credentials to prove it. It is a valid conservative view.

As to your charge that there is no critique of Obama's policies, I will leave that up to gbfunk to decide. While you may take a more legalistic approach to the word 'policy' in order to skate around some of our President's more glaring inconsistencies, I am certain the American public isn't as careful.

Not so by the way, the publication you referenced (The American Conservative Magazine), after apologizing for previous "rough treatment" of Hanson, goes on to call him "one of America’s premier public intellectuals." This, in an introduction to an article written by Hanson and published last November.

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Opera you didn't know you knew (lucia sextet)

Deano says...

According to Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucia_di_Lammermoor#Trivia, it's been used in;

The "Lucia Sextet" (Chi mi frena in tal momento?) was recorded in 1908 by Enrico Caruso, Marcella Sembrich, Antonio Scotti, Marcel Journet, Barbara Severina, and Francesco Daddi, (Victor single-sided 70036) and released at the price of $7.00, earning it the title of "The Seven-Dollar Sextet". The film The Great Caruso incorporates a scene featuring a performance of this sextet.

The "Lucia Sextet" melody is best known to some from its use by the American slapstick comedy team the Three Stooges in their short films Micro-Phonies and Squareheads of the Round Table, sung in the latter with the lyrics "Oh, Elaine, can you come out tonight...." But the melody is used most dramatically in Howard Hawks' gangster classic "Scarface": Tony Camonte (Paul Muni) whistles "Chi mi frena?" in the film's opening sequence, as he guns down a ganglord boss he has been assigned to protect.

It has also been used in Warner Brothers cartoons: Long-Haired Hare, sung by the opera singer (Bugs Bunny's antagonist); Book Revue, sung by the wolf antagonist; and in Back Alley Oproar, sung by a choir full of Sylvesters, the cat.

The "Lucia Sextet" melody also figures in two scenes from the 2006 film The Departed, directed by Martin Scorsese. In one scene, Jack Nicholson's character is shown at a performance of "Lucia di Lammermoor", and the music on the soundtrack is from the sextet. Later in the film, Nicholson's cell phone ringtone is the sextet melody.

The Sextet is also featured during a scene from the 1986 comedy film, The Money Pit.

In the children's book "The Cricket in Times Square," Chester Cricket chirps the tenor part to the "Lucia Sextet" as the encore to his farewell concert, literally stopping traffic in the process.

An aria from the "mad scene," "Il dolce suono" (from the 3rd Act), was re-popularized when it was featured in the film The Fifth Element in a performance by the alien diva Plavalaguna (voiced by Albanian soprano Inva Mula-Tchako and played onscreen by French actress Maïwenn Le Besco). A loose remake of this film version of the song was covered by Russian pop singer Vitas.

The "mad scene" was also used in the first episode of the anime series Gankutsuou (in place of L'Italiana in Algeri which was the opera used in that scene in The Count of Monte Cristo).

The "mad scene" aria, as sung by Inva Mula-Tchako, was used in an episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent involving the murder of a young violinist by her opera singer mother (who performs the song right after the murder).

The "mad scene" was released as a music video by Russian male soprano Vitas in 2006.

Among other selections from the opera, the "mad scene", "Verranno a te sull'aure", and "Che facesti?" feature prominently in the 1983 Paul Cox film Man of Flowers, especially "Verranno a te sull'aure," which accompanies a striptease in the film's opening scene.

The opera is mentioned in the novels The Count of Monte Cristo, Madame Bovary and Where Angels Fear to Tread and was reputedly one of Tolstoy's favorites.

"Regnava nel silenzio" accompanies the scene in Beetlejuice in which Lydia (Winona Ryder) composes a suicide note.

A portion of the opera is also used in a key scene of the film The Fifth Element, written and directed by Luc Besson.

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