If you want gorgeous unspoilt vistas and astounding natural formations, it's damn hard to beat Iceland.

They skipped a great one (and many others)...In Die Another Day, the car chase on ice is filmed on a lake created for the movie. It's a lagoon that has one outflow channel where sea water enters at high tide. That adds just enough salt to keep it from freezing over...unless you make an ice dam in the channel like they did for the movie. The lagoon froze over enough to film the car scenes in what not only looked like, but was an impossible location. Today you can take boat rides among the icebergs in that lagoon.

Can we start taking bets on whether he'll say "hasta la vista, baby" just before he kills her?

@lantern53
and you are an apologist,and a tool.

i am not going to even waste my time dissecting your factually challenged and logically twisted comment because it would serve no purpose.

there is no chance of changing your mind,inspiring you to see events with a different perspective,which could lead to new vistas of understanding.

you hold the fundamentalist mindset.
you are convinced of your righteousness.
you are a true believer and any information contrary to your worldview will be deemed "heretical" and shall be automatically deemed "wrong" and dismissed on those grounds.

as evidenced by your commentary.
such a small,and narrow place to reside.
i feel sorry for you lantern.
you have my pity.

I thought coercion wasn't a valid crime solving tactic.

My bad. I guess the Thought Police are finally here.


ps: Chingy, Rancho Vista Continuation is a High School.

Rancho Vista Continuation..Who names a community that?

Power-hungry big-brained people work for the world rapists.
Power-hungry simpletons toil with glee as the enforcement arm for their machine.

Windows 7 or Vista only unfortunately.

Gamepad also recommended due to forced mouse acceleration.

Has anyone tried the workaround? Works for me on Ubuntu 10.4 and Vista.

Well maybe I need a few drinks to really respond to your argument properly, but I'll do my best while sober

I think it's a bug and a coincidence. I was really talking about phones and other embedded devices rather than laptops, but you have a point that it's kinda similar here.

Here's the thing though: Win8 is so different to win7 and vista that Microsoft would be taking a huge risk if they tried to make people switch to it before they got used to the change. Given that people will have to re-learn a whole lot of stuff (or install classic shell) anyway, what's to stop them looking around and buying a macbook air, or installing Ubuntu on their old laptop?

Look, I readily concede that your way is possible, but it just doesn't seem terribly likely to sober me (drunk me could have a different opinion, but I wouldn't listen to him if I were you).
In reply to this comment by zaust:
Hang on a sec - what your saying is old unsupported devices - such as a 4 year old Windows Vista 7 laptop have a best version. So why, JUST NOW, right when win8 is around the corner are the automatic updates which are enabled on every new PC restricting my dad's functionality?

This isn't a case of his installed the latest win8 beta (he has not surprisingly as he was in IT for 30 years - but it's in a separate boot partition and runs all of his usb functions perfectly). This is an update to vista 32 bit drivers which has lessoned his functionally roughly a month before win8 comes out.

Could be a bug, could be a coincidence. Could be microsoft are shaking the tree just enough to make people question if they need the new OS.

Lets take a couple more points of view - you've probably seen the start trek TNG vs special edition videos where the original footage looked WAY worse than what was aired originally. If not maybe your a gamer? Notice how blizzard are preparing "Titan" for launch (new mmo) whilst at the same time releasing a kung-fu panda expansion for wow whilst addressing none of the failings Guild Wars 2 has highlighted.

It pays for companies to make their old products look obsolete whilst retaining their brand loyalty

Sorry for rant - had a few to drink.

Hang on a sec - what your saying is old unsupported devices - such as a 4 year old Windows Vista 7 laptop have a best version. So why, JUST NOW, right when win8 is around the corner are the automatic updates which are enabled on every new PC restricting my dad's functionality?

This isn't a case of his installed the latest win8 beta (he has not surprisingly as he was in IT for 30 years - but it's in a separate boot partition and runs all of his usb functions perfectly). This is an update to vista 32 bit drivers which has lessoned his functionally roughly a month before win8 comes out.

Could be a bug, could be a coincidence. Could be microsoft are shaking the tree just enough to make people question if they need the new OS.

Lets take a couple more points of view - you've probably seen the start trek TNG vs special edition videos where the original footage looked WAY worse than what was aired originally. If not maybe your a gamer? Notice how blizzard are preparing "Titan" for launch (new mmo) whilst at the same time releasing a kung-fu panda expansion for wow whilst addressing none of the failings Guild Wars 2 has highlighted.

It pays for companies to make their old products look obsolete whilst retaining their brand loyalty

Sorry for rant - had a few to drink.

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
Since the update introduced an unwelcome new feature and you had to roll back, you're kinda supporting my point actually : Every old unsupported device has one "best" version, and it's not always the newest one.

Microsoft say Oct 26 for Win 8, but you'd have to look at the machine specs to see if an upgrade is possible. The interface changes haven't been welcomed by all, either.

Quite a few people hold back on new windows releases until the teething issues have been ironed out... so win 7 is looking good at this point.
In reply to this comment by zaust:
You say that but I was round at my dads today and he'd had to roll back his Vista laptop to an earlier backup because the latest "updates" meant it no longer had the USB resources to run both his printer and scanner. When's Win 8 out again?

Since the update introduced an unwelcome new feature and you had to roll back, you're kinda supporting my point actually Every old unsupported device has one "best" version, and it's not always the newest one.

Microsoft say Oct 26 for Win 8, but you'd have to look at the machine specs to see if an upgrade is possible. The interface changes haven't been welcomed by all, either.

Quite a few people hold back on new windows releases until the teething issues have been ironed out... so win 7 is looking good at this point.
In reply to this comment by zaust:
You say that but I was round at my dads today and he'd had to roll back his Vista laptop to an earlier backup because the latest "updates" meant it no longer had the USB resources to run both his printer and scanner. When's Win 8 out again?

You say that but I was round at my dads today and he'd had to roll back his Vista laptop to an earlier backup because the latest "updates" meant it no longer had the USB resources to run both his printer and scanner. When's Win 8 out again?


>> ^oritteropo:

The new versions give new features, and new bugs and performance problems. I am not running the newest supported version on my phone for exactly that reason, but I'm only one or two versions below it.
You can always go back to the old version if the new one isn't to your liking.
When iOS 4 first came out it was truly woeful on the older phones, then fixes came out clawing back some of the performance. I don't think this was a marketing strategy, I think it was a result of testing on the new phone first. Anyway, the new phones are always faster than the old ones they don't even need to slow the old ones down to make them seem slow in comparison!
>> ^messenger:
This is important. Jimmy may have uncovered a really underhanded marketing technique. Anyone else heard/noticed this?>> ^zaust:
This is total conjecture but, according to a good friend of mine who's unfortunately a crapple fan, the new models do make the old ones obsolete. He's adamant the, near compulsory, updates have significantly slowed his older model iphones over time.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

Most of this video, to me, sounded like minor griping ("I have to move the mouse to the bottom of the screen!" or "I have to do an additional click!"). Raised a few actual issues with it, but overall, I don't mind it. When I first tried Consumer Preview, it was a mess. But since then, they've done a number of improvements. I commend MS for trying something new, it's not perfect but has potential.
I'll be buying it now, and benchmarks seem to show improvements in speed over Win 7. I just hope MS improve the usability with Service Packs and updates (rather than solely security and bug fixes). It is new, it isn't perfect, it will need updates.

They are critiquing an interface. Number of mouse clicks and mouse travel are pretty good ways of determining userbility. Its not really a minor gripe when you do it 100s of times a day, or an unnecessary layer simply confuses. Yes they are looking for problems with Windows8, yes thats their job. They also pointed out a few positive things, hell they even went as far to say that fullscreen start menu is a more intelligent use of screen estate. I'd certainly say its very aesthetically pleasing, but it does seem to have come at a cost. Oh, and apparently its good for touch screens which most PC users won't give 2 shits about.


I also find it commendable that MS should try new things, but it was criticism of Vista that resulted in Windows7. From what I've seen of Windows8...well it seems to me they have their priorities wrong. I'm sure it'll improve over time...then they'll call it Windows9 and ship it

My first PC was MS-DOS 5, followed by Windows 3.1, Win95, Win98, Windows 2000, XP, Vista (I never had any issues with Vista), and now Win7. I won't be bothering with Win8 due to the UX. I would love some of the under-the-hood improvements, but it's not enough to outweigh the annoyances.

I found that 95 was a great idea, but 98 did it better, and for me, it was more stable. I skipped ME for XP, then skipped Vista for 7, and will definitely be skipping 8, so the pattern holds for me.>> ^HugeJerk:

>> ^Xaielao:
Is it just me or is every other major windows release utter crap. 95 was a huge leap for its time. 98 while improved in some ways, was about as stable as a drunk stilt walker. XP was of course so good, folks still refuse to use anything else. Vista was a bloated bag of design flaws, and 7 is perhaps their best software yet. Here comes windows 8.. you get me?

You forgot Windows ME was between 98 and XP.