>> ^blankfist:

>> ^NetRunner:
>> ^blankfist:
And their stock suggestions have worked out well for me. But that's mainly because I think it's a good idea to bet against the US dollar, especially now, and their stock suggestions are basically mostly that.

So be specific, how are they saying to bet against the dollar? Buy gold and silver? Buy foreign currency or foreign stocks & bonds?
Which of those have paid off big (you mentioned tripling your 401k)?

I didn't say they said "bet against the dollar". I said that. They don't sell gold or silver, either. They review companies that do though. And as far as I can tell they're not selling anything.
They have a number of stocks they think will do well as the currency inflates, and so far they've been spot on. Mainly mining companies and the occasional agriculture company. Read on.
http://inflation.us/stocks.html


Intro paragraph at that link:

One of our missions at the National Inflation Association is to discover and profile companies that we believe will prosper in an inflationary environment. Typically we will bring to you producing, profitable, Gold and Silver companies with strong balance sheets. We believe these stocks have a chance of becoming some of the best performers of the next decade.

That said, those look like decent enough picks, even if the much ballyhooed hyperinflation never actually arrives. They've got oil, gas, food, tech stocks, even some potash (very trendy) in there, which are mostly bets that global warming is real, the oil is running out, and the developing economies will rapidly increase their demand for food & oil over the next decade. All safe bets!

Though the bulk of it is stock in precious metal traders and miners, and I'm not sure that quite counts as "betting against the dollar" so much as betting that the hysteria about inflation will lead to a boom for gold traders. At least inflation.us knows which side their bread is buttered on.

Assuming these companies themselves aren't scams, they're not setting you up to lose your shirt if Paul Krugman continues to be right, and Peter Schiff continues to be wrong. You might take a hit if/when a Republican reclaims the White House, and all the talk of inflation disappears though.

Picard sounds like he's a market trader from South London.

I love the conservative mind-set these days. She lobbies for major health care traders... In the defense of liberty...

And you still believe this crap???

That was lovely. Particularly great in full-screen 720p.
I watched all of that and it was nice to see some of the places I've been to. The locale, in Thailand I think it was, with the traders positioned inches away from the train was jaw-dropping. And India - still haven't been there - you can see the potential for culture-shock with guys washing themselves in the street.

So amazingly different from locked-down London. It makes me glad I'm self-employed and rarely have to travel in the mornings anymore.

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Even government is in the firm claw of wow... muahaha. Nerf TSA rogues!

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

If we had a government by, of and for the people, we could change or disband the TSA. Instead, our only option is to complain about it on the internet. The plutocrats love them some security, so that's one government program that will never go away so long as they are calling the shots.
And, what's up with the Ben and Jerry's thing? I don't want ANY corporations controlling our government, not even socially conscious ones. Not Ben and Jerry's. Not Google. Not Trader Joe's or Ikea. Not Valve or Blizzard. Old Abe never said anything about government by, of and for disembodied, unaccountable, corporate persons. Neither did the framers.

If we had a government by, of and for the people, we could change or disband the TSA. Instead, our only option is to complain about it on the internet. The plutocrats love them some security, so that's one government program that will never go away so long as they are calling the shots.

And, what's up with the Ben and Jerry's thing? I don't want ANY corporations controlling our government, not even socially conscious ones. Not Ben and Jerry's. Not Google. Not Trader Joe's or Ikea. Not Valve or Blizzard. Old Abe never said anything about government by, of and for disembodied, unaccountable, corporate persons. Neither did the framers.

The LaRouche movement used to set up tables outside of the Trader Joe's I used to frequent, but they were smart enough to set up on the street and not inside the actual business. Free speech doesn't give you the right to trespass on private property or disrupt ticketed events.

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

The NAACP and others are full tilt trying to say the TP is 'racist'

Time out. The NAACP is saying that the Tea Party should call out and denounce the minority of people within their midst who've been expressing racism.

Instead, the immediate response from Tea Party organizers was to say that the NAACP has "made more money off of race than any slave trader ever."

Right, that is what I was trying to point out which you made much more clear

Watching the video, I don't understand how BP "owned" the oil. As far as I understand the government owns all coastal waters and BP just leases it. I think the way property and mineral rights work in the US need some slight refinement. I think it is dumb that a person can own something they do not yet have control over. Just because of the fact that you own some land, I don't think that should give you claim over things that you haven't yet cultivated from it. If we adjusted ownership claims sightly, it could give more powers to the people whom actually do the mining/making. It would place more power back into the hands of the people that do things instead of the people who buy things. I have the same kind of thoughts on intellectual property. You can't own ideas, you can only own what you do with them. In the same fashion, you can't just own the ground, you own what you do (on/in/with/from/more verbs) it. I think this slight adjustment could do great things, though I still need to work through all the logical implications (one day).

For me, that is one of the largest roles of government, defining private property. It isn't something that is an objective truth. The way that mineral rights, and intellectual rights are configured right now are horrible. They encourage large concentration of power for people who no longer produce goods, just buy ideas/property.

Though, I don't find fault with people get lots of money for something they do well, I love newegg and amazon, and have no problem with the people living the good life. I think we all find a problem with people that don't really do anything but game the system and somehow squeeze money from it without providing any real benefit, hell, even BP makes something we all need desperately. Day traders, property flippers, and the like I see as people who are found glitches in the system they are exploiting, and while there will always be such things I still think they could be mended with more clearly defining some of the base elements. The fact that BP owns the oil just due to the fact they have enough money to lease land and make more money seems off. It is like renting someone to make the money for you that you already bought.

Wasn't expecting that vagina monologue. You could probably cut out at least half of that and it would still be saying the same thing. I didn't think you would protest the fallacies so much. Hmmm.

How much do you know about the Renaissance? Preceding it in the Medieval times, monarchs had large royal treasuries, so they maintained the power and influence. If you were born into a lower class, then that's where you stayed. Then the merchant class arose, and they created competing currencies, a way to trade amongst themselves, a way to create wealth for themselves, and eventually they developed influence over the ruling class.

It was the traders vs. the nobility. A major power shift was transpiring as royal treasuries were no longer sustainable because they weren't producing 'new wealth', however 'new wealth' was being created by commerce among the commoners. Effectively, the common families pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and created a new class (the middle class). This threatened the monarchs, so they decided to lay claim to the wealth created by the merchant class, they forced them to use a centralized currency, and they created these charters where the merchant class were granted permission to do various jobs. Eventually the monarch took the power back and the people were offered a chance to create wealth in trade for a centralized currency.

This shows how the free market was working and working well. It also shows how government, or in this case the monarch, created a centralized currency (Keynesian anyone?), laid claim to the wealth created by the merchant class (income tax, property tax, etc), and ultimately forced people to acquire permission to work by forming corporate charters (corporation/government collusion).

Today, if you want to start a business, you must file with the government and get permission to do so. Sure you can file as DBA which is less expensive than becoming incorporated or filing an LLC, but it's still asking permission. And you must use the centralized currency of the Federal government to trade and pay debts. And the government is entitled to your wealth, through property tax, income tax, sales tax, etc. And it becomes too prohibitively expensive to keep a business afloat unless you're part of the elite rich nobility that can afford to keep their corporate charter. See any parallels?

I wanted to add... TRADER JOE's mini choco peanut butta cups!!! Sooooo GOOOOOOOOOOD that I have to limit buying them because I can't resist them. They make Reese's taste like schlock in comparison, y'know.

Karzai is another US neo-dictator goon. He supposedly won an election, however we all know darn well that he didn't win it. The US wanted him in, so he was in. Irrespective of the so-called election results.

The only value Afghanistan holds for the US is that they want to put an oil pipeline through there. The US government is paying huge sums of money to try to make sure it succeeds. In the end, the US taxpayer pays in cash for the war. The Afghanis pay for it with their lives. The arms traders and oil companies profit.

You don't really understand people, do you? Science doesn't dictate their desire for power, wealth and control of others. Cap and Trade is just another vehicle for this. Energy credits are not hard to understand. It's the creative ways governments, businesses and traders will find to corrupt something that is theoretically meant to be "good".

>> ^tristangrace:
You don't really understand cap and trade do you? Maybe lose the rhetoric and instead try to convey you point with proven examples and science?


If you are implying that I am necessarily religious, then you are wrong (once again). I have no faith in that jackass in the White House or his crooked administration. I have little faith in Congress. I have no faith in the media. However, I have full faith that the socialists will continue with their steady stream of pointless Glenn Beck videos (and the like) to steer attention away from the White House failures and the fact that obammy is just a Bush of a different color.

>> ^KnivesOut:
Rotty doesn't need to understand things. He's got faith.

those spear tips were probably priceless artifacts. that bastard trader probably made millions off them. son of a bitch.