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What do you do for work ? (Talks Talk Post)

Ryjkyj says...

I am a professional student and and full-time caretaker of my son. Failing that, should I ever need money, I have reliable remodeling trade skills like laying carpet, tile, framing, painting, etc.. I'm going to school however, for nursing.

Jerry Gretzinger's Endless Map, A Game of Art

The Sift Lounge (Blog Entry by UsesProzac)

Epic Tight Rope Fail Destroys Roof

Sagemind says...

That's a lot of broken clay bricks and tiles - That would suck
But then, you have to wonder what was so exciting in doing what he was doing in the first place.

The Simpsons 130 Simultaneous Episodes Experiment

ForgedReality says...

I want a screensaver that does this. You have a library of videos and it tries to randomly fill the screen with videos from your library, starting at arbitrary times, and looping them all. If you don't have enough videos within your specified library to fill the specified number of video tiles, it will reuse items from the library, but they will start at different times.

If I could develop that, it would be awesome.

Bat Infestation Under Tile Roof - Roofing Miami, FL

It's The Bees' House Now, Let Them Have It

TED Hodgman: A Brief Digression on Matters of Lost Time

The new top header videos section... (Sift Talk Post)

ant says...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^ant:
>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^ant:
>> ^lucky760:
It's a new feature and we did semi-randomly select the current videos, but with a different reason for each video, but it's mainly as an exploratory thing.
Sorry it's a bother, ant, but at least it's just a matter of scrolling down a few pixels.

160 vertical pixels is a lot.

It's barely bigger than your toolbar collection. What is up with that mess?

Hence, why I don't like the one in web pages. It would be nice to have an option to hide the VS' ones. And yes, I use a lot of addons/extensions (about 16; not plugins).

Get this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/stylish/
Create a style that contains:

div#tile-grid-wrapper { display: none !important; }

I haven't decided whether I'll add it to my declutter sheet yet. Since it's only on the front page, it doesn't bother me a lot, and it may yet turn out to be interesting.


Thanks. I also haven't decided for the same reasons. You mean front pages since there are other pages of the first page.

The new top header videos section... (Sift Talk Post)

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^ant:

>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^ant:
>> ^lucky760:
It's a new feature and we did semi-randomly select the current videos, but with a different reason for each video, but it's mainly as an exploratory thing.
Sorry it's a bother, ant, but at least it's just a matter of scrolling down a few pixels.

160 vertical pixels is a lot.

It's barely bigger than your toolbar collection. What is up with that mess?

Hence, why I don't like the one in web pages. It would be nice to have an option to hide the VS' ones. And yes, I use a lot of addons/extensions (about 16; not plugins).


Get this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/stylish/

Create a style that contains:

div#tile-grid-wrapper { display: none !important; }


I haven't decided whether I'll add it to my declutter sheet yet. Since it's only on the front page, it doesn't bother me a lot, and it may yet turn out to be interesting.

Keep Wall Street Occupied

NetRunner says...

You're partly right, those letters will never get to a bank employee, but as an employee of one of those companies that opens the letters for several banks, I can tell you that at least with us, we're obligated to capture any and all correspondence customers send in to us and provide it to the banks with the rest of the data. So the wood shims and roofing tiles will just piss off the wrong people, but any actual message you put in there will get to the bank, and a sudden spike in correspondence volume will get noticed.

I also disagree about raising bank costs being fruitless. If banks start charging people a monthly fee while paying 0% interest, most people will just pull their money out and bank somewhere else. Hopefully they'll go to a local bank or credit union instead, but they could always just store piles of cash in a safe at home. No business can insulate itself from increases in input costs by simply raising the price they ask customers to pay -- doing that loses you sales, and winds up costing you money.

>> ^L0cky:

Warning, party pooping.
The mail will never reach any employee of a bank, let alone a banker. It goes to a data collection warehouse.
People with already crappy jobs working for a sub contractor who do nothing but open envelopes all day and sort their contents will be the ones who will have to bin all your wooden shivs and messages.
On top of that, your local (probably unionised) mailman will have to lug around this extra mail on his/her collection round.
Nice sentiment, but poor in execution
Also, right now I don't see an effective end goal in trying to increase the banks' costs. We pay all their costs anyway, through charges or bailouts.

Famous optical illusion -- live

offsetSammy says...

You make a good point here. This is actually quite different from the original illusion. The original demonstrated that our perception of color is based on context (e.g. the tile in the shadow is perceived as being lighter than the one not in shadow, even though their "absolute" color values are the same). If you were to create a physical model of the original by taking a normal checkerboard and shining a light on it, then moved the middle tile on top of a tile of the "opposite" color, as they do in this video, you would see that the tiles ARE in fact different colors. So really your brain is seeing things correctly from a contextual point of view, in that it's separating the surface color of the object from the color contributed by the light/shadow. If our brains didn't work this way we would have a lot of trouble navigating the world.

What I believe they've done in the video that's different from the spirit of the original illusion, is create a fake shadow. The "shadow" is actually painted onto the tiles (and also, importantly, the cylinder). If you were to take one of the darker tiles in the shadow and place it on top of the another dark tile, you'd find they're not the same shade, even though we assume they should be the same (the 'shadowed' tile would be darker by comparison). Notice that there is actually a rather bright light source pointing at the shadowed area, in which case the shadow only makes physical sense if the light source on the left is MUCH brighter, which is not the case. By the way, there is something of a shadow created by the light source on the left, but it is set up to be as subtle as possible and not have much real contribution to the image.

Your assertion that it's rendered in 3D could be correct, but this illusion should be possible to do (and much more cheaply!) without it.

>> ^entr0py:

That was a well done video. Though, I've always thought that illusion is not actually an illusion, but just a trick. It always relies on ignoring the fact that one tile is in shadow and the other is in light when you go to compare them. If you physically did move the tile as animated above, it would suddenly appear much lighter when it moves into sunlight, because that is how light works. They must have gone to some work to render it in 3D, and then not have that one tile be effected by the scene lighting.

Famous optical illusion -- live

draak13 says...

Also, it's amazing how this illusion persists, despite the knowledge of exactly what's happening. Try covering up the surrounding tiles with a post-it note or your hand. As the information on the relative color disappears, the illusion loses its power...in particular, the white tiles above and below the tile in question. It's also amazing that the illusion resurfaces *immediately* after revealing the surrounding tiles =-P.

>> ^entr0py:

That was a well done video. Though, I've always thought that illusion is not actually an illusion, but just a trick. It always relies on ignoring the fact that one tile is in shadow and the other is in light when you go to compare them. If you physically did move the tile as animated above, it would suddenly appear much lighter when it moves into sunlight, because that is how light works. They must have gone to some work to render it in 3D, and then not have that one tile be effected by the scene lighting.

Famous optical illusion -- live

draak13 says...

Yeah, it's definitely not a trick. This is a famous illusion in still-life, and there is no bizarre rendering required. However, it is indeed a 'trick', and that trick is your assumption of what shades each of the tiles are. You look at the board, and immediately believe that this is a standard checkered board with exactly 2 different shades of tile. This assumption, and therefor your perception of the color of the tile, is false.

SamaelSmith had it right; there is a deception in how much shadow is actually being cast by the podium sitting in front of the metal floodlight. Consider the MASSIVE light shining above the stage, and consider the smaller floodlight in the back, and reconsider how much shadow you would actually expect there to be on the checkerboard. There would be only a faint shadow, not the dramatic shadow that they have cast across it. The tiles are colored to make it appear that there is a strong shadow, when there should only be a weak one.

Thus, it is your normally adaptive assumption that there is a strong shadow cast by the podium that causes you to believe that the dark tile looks white in contrast to the very dark tiles surrounding it.

>> ^entr0py:

That was a well done video. Though, I've always thought that illusion is not actually an illusion, but just a trick. It always relies on ignoring the fact that one tile is in shadow and the other is in light when you go to compare them. If you physically did move the tile as animated above, it would suddenly appear much lighter when it moves into sunlight, because that is how light works. They must have gone to some work to render it in 3D, and then not have that one tile be effected by the scene lighting.

Famous optical illusion -- live

Samaelsmith says...

>> ^entr0py:

That was a well done video. Though, I've always thought that illusion is not actually an illusion, but just a trick. It always relies on ignoring the fact that one tile is in shadow and the other is in light when you go to compare them. If you physically did move the tile as animated above, it would suddenly appear much lighter when it moves into sunlight, because that is how light works. They must have gone to some work to render it in 3D, and then not have that one tile be effected by the scene lighting.


I don't think they used any rendering. If you pause it at 0:58, you can see that her arm is equally lit where it should be in shadow and where it is in full light. I think it is done with the lighting that is coming in from offscreen in the bottom right corner to subtly illuminate the shadow of the cylinder.
Strangely, at 0:58 it's also more obvious that the two squares are the same shade.



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