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Does it bother you that a high % of sifted videos are straight from Reddit? (User Poll by rottenseed)

pumkinandstorm says...

>> ^Fletch:
First of all, who turned off the email notification?!?! I haven't receive anything for a couple days, at least.
@pumkinandstorm
PaS, PaS, PaS... I'm your friend. The w/e-way-the-wind-blows Pill-Popper, the Cliquies, and the Badgers running to your "defense" are not. They care not for you nearly as much as they care that you represent 10% of every future star point. You have been beguiled and bamboozled by those whose thin skins betray the indignance-laced Kool-aid they have been drinking for years. They are your Roman Catholic Church. I am your Martin Luther. They are your Tom Cruise. I am your Tory Christman. They are your SLA. I am your windowless black van. They are your enablers, co-dependents. I am your friend. They want your upvotes and the kind of affirmation and vindication they can only receive by collective membership into their twisted groupthink. I want nothing.
Another prolific poster here once left due to the shenanigans of a recently-returned and reformed (?) exile. VS didn't miss a beat. Other people filled in and the same stuff she would have sifted got sifted by others. That's why it was somewhat comical to me when she returned to posting and threatened to stop if the exile was allowed to return. Exile is back, thankfully, and she is still posting, predictably. If you measure your value here by votes and badges, it is a lie. You've been caught up. They are participation ribbons. Everyone gets something eventually, and they don't mean jack shit to those who just want to see the two-headed calf and Journey concert.
Whatever your story... and I mean whatever your story, I stand by what I said. You could be nose-up in an iron lung pecking out smiley faces with a chopstick in your teeth, and I would still maintain that there are infinitely more interesting, meaningful, and rewarding (in RL) pursuits to dedicate hours and hours every day of your life to.
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I don't think it would have mattered who the comment was from or who it was to...I believe it would have led to the same reaction. I for one come here to have fun, and never like to see things get personal because I think it hurts the site and I guess the people who left the replies feel the same way. I really appreciate that they wanted to make sure I wouldn't feel bullied by anyone here. I hope we can put this whole discussion to rest now. I have videos to watch. P.S. I said hours which is actually only 2 or 3...I didn't say I spent all DAY watching videos. Sheesh. I could think of WORSE things to be taking an interest in.

Does it bother you that a high % of sifted videos are straight from Reddit? (User Poll by rottenseed)

Fletch says...

First of all, who turned off the email notification?!?! I haven't receive anything for a couple days, at least.

@pumkinandstorm

PaS, PaS, PaS... I'm your friend. The w/e-way-the-wind-blows Pill-Popper, the Cliquies, and the Badgers running to your "defense" are not. They care not for you nearly as much as they care that you represent 10% of every future star point. You have been beguiled and bamboozled by those whose thin skins betray the indignance-laced Kool-aid they have been drinking for years. They are your Roman Catholic Church. I am your Martin Luther. They are your Tom Cruise. I am your Tory Christman. They are your SLA. I am your windowless black van. They are your enablers, co-dependents. I am your friend. They want your upvotes and the kind of affirmation and vindication they can only receive by collective membership into their twisted groupthink. I want nothing.

Another prolific poster here once left due to the shenanigans of a recently-returned and reformed (?) exile. VS didn't miss a beat. Other people filled in and the same stuff she would have sifted got sifted by others. That's why it was somewhat comical to me when she returned to posting and threatened to stop if the exile was allowed to return. Exile is back, thankfully, and she is still posting, predictably. If you measure your value here by votes and badges, it is a lie. You've been caught up. They are participation ribbons. Everyone gets something eventually, and they don't mean jack shit to those who just want to see the two-headed calf and Journey concert.

Whatever your story... and I mean whatever your story, I stand by what I said. You could be nose-up in an iron lung pecking out smiley faces with a chopstick in your teeth, and I would still maintain that there are infinitely more interesting, meaningful, and rewarding (in RL) pursuits to dedicate hours and hours every day of your life to.

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Thanks For Silver (Eia Talk Post)

chingalera says...

Used up all my own hissy-fit points on this site-I promise to continue to exercise at will, the voting up or down of offerings according to stated guidelines.

Like ant, sometimes the motivation for a downvote may or may not be apparent.(plan rto rock the down vote this go-round, please get ready. Not voting is the same as voting up or down, right?? Be happy the attention you desired was received, be it good, bad, etc.

Feel bad when you get a downvote?? Ask me and I'll tell you of the motivation.
OR, hold a grudge and form an opinion based on an emotional reaction....

The latter method works great if you want an insular hidey-hole of ostracization (like the one I dug for choggie!)

chingalera is simply a somewhat emasculate version of choggie....BUT, at least we got the package fondled, eh?

All I ever really wanted was to be able to fix all of choggie's old dead embeds! Oh, and to piss folks off with thin skin~
S'good for ya, toughens ya up-helps to prepare you for the coming Ignorapacalypse

"What More Do We Want This Man To Do For Us"

heropsycho says...

I am aware. Did you notice I responded to some of your points in it like accusing me of not watching the right wing hitjob video?

The rest I didn't bother responding to. But after second thought, I'll respond to the question of whether Obama is extreme to the left or not. And this is a really easy one...

Name a single thing Obama has done that's honestly extreme to the left. An actual policy. I'm not talking a moderate-left policy. Raising taxes on the top income earners from 35-38% wouldn't be an extreme left idea. It's moving the dial a notch or two to the left. If he proposed raising it to 50%, that would be a hard left move.

See, I don't really care if *some* of Obama's appointments are far to the left. I care about policies proposed or enacted.

Yet another thing I get irritated about - characterizing someone you don't like as a political caricature to the extreme side of that political direction. Don't like George W. Bush? Paint him as a Nazi because he's more to the right than you. Don't like Obama? Paint him as a godless communist because he's to the left of you. Of course the extremes in the parties complain their own guys aren't conservative/liberal enough. This way, nobody is happy, and everyone complains about how crappy our gov't is!

>> ^shinyblurry:

>> ^heropsycho:
For the record, I AM NOT thin-skinned about Obama. I get pissed off when people criticize Romney for firing people when he worked at Bain, when that was his FREAKING JOB! If he didn't do that, and Bain was unsuccessful, then the left would have attacked him for being a crappy businessman like George W. Bush was with a baseball team. You can't have it both ways.
Or that his dog was tied to the top of the roof on a family vacation...
Or he, along with friends, picked on someone they thought was gay decades ago in prep school, ignoring the fact everybody did stupid things in high school. It has no bearing on them decades later.
It's totally ridiculous, unproductive, divisive, and doesn't do anybody any good whatsoever. But most importantly, it detracts from honest debate about issues that actually matter.
I don't have any problems with people criticizing Obama for real issues. Him being impolite?! I watched your idiotic right-wing bent hit job video. That's impolite for a leader?! They slammed Obama for making comments where he respectfully disagreed with the Supreme Court. What should he have said instead? Did he scream at them? You know, like the dude who screamed "YOU LIED!"? NO! Him being impolite wasn't the issue. Conservatives are really just upset that he voiced his disagreement with their view, and it's spun to accuse him of being rude and disrespectful. It's ridiculous. He took Eric Cantor to task in a political discussion. Did he scream at him? Cuss at him? NO!
Here's the difference:
If you want to criticize Obama for perhaps overstepping his bounds and the ideal of separation of powers when he criticized the Supreme Court decision? Fine, I disagree, but that's an honest debate. I wouldn't be chewing you out for that.
I watched the video. I didn't see a single instance of him being overly impolite as a leader. If that's the case, every single damn president we ever had is an asshole. And where was your outrage then?!
I'm tired of this shit from both sides. I get pissed off at partisan hackery and absurd distortions of the truth. You, sir, are doing that with this drivel about Obama. I don't care if you dislike him as a President. I'm not a big fan, either. But if you're gonna trope this idiotic crap out, expect to get reamed for it by reasonable people.
>> ^shinyblurry:
>> ^messenger:
Yeah, I'm gonna vote Romney because he has promised not to put his feet on the coffee table. WTF? This is your criteria for a good President? Until he walks with people, he's a bad President? Get off it.>> ^shinyblurry:
I'd like him to be more polite {video}


Why is everyone so thin skinned about Obama? That's my question. I was being somewhat facetious, although I think the video, while humorous, shows a definite pattern of behavior. In any case, I'm not voting for Romney. Although I share some of his views on social issues, that isn't enough to get me past our theological differences, which are great. My prediction is that Romney will actually be far worse for this country, spiritually, than Obama. That is the reason I won't vote for anyone who doesn't worship God in spirit and in truth.


You responded to the wrong post. You can find the one where I replied to you here:
http://videosift.com/video/What-More-Do-We-Wan
t-This-Man-To-Do-For-Us?loadcomm=1#comment-1458730

"What More Do We Want This Man To Do For Us"

shinyblurry says...

>> ^heropsycho:

For the record, I AM NOT thin-skinned about Obama. I get pissed off when people criticize Romney for firing people when he worked at Bain, when that was his FREAKING JOB! If he didn't do that, and Bain was unsuccessful, then the left would have attacked him for being a crappy businessman like George W. Bush was with a baseball team. You can't have it both ways.
Or that his dog was tied to the top of the roof on a family vacation...
Or he, along with friends, picked on someone they thought was gay decades ago in prep school, ignoring the fact everybody did stupid things in high school. It has no bearing on them decades later.
It's totally ridiculous, unproductive, divisive, and doesn't do anybody any good whatsoever. But most importantly, it detracts from honest debate about issues that actually matter.
I don't have any problems with people criticizing Obama for real issues. Him being impolite?! I watched your idiotic right-wing bent hit job video. That's impolite for a leader?! They slammed Obama for making comments where he respectfully disagreed with the Supreme Court. What should he have said instead? Did he scream at them? You know, like the dude who screamed "YOU LIED!"? NO! Him being impolite wasn't the issue. Conservatives are really just upset that he voiced his disagreement with their view, and it's spun to accuse him of being rude and disrespectful. It's ridiculous. He took Eric Cantor to task in a political discussion. Did he scream at him? Cuss at him? NO!
Here's the difference:
If you want to criticize Obama for perhaps overstepping his bounds and the ideal of separation of powers when he criticized the Supreme Court decision? Fine, I disagree, but that's an honest debate. I wouldn't be chewing you out for that.
I watched the video. I didn't see a single instance of him being overly impolite as a leader. If that's the case, every single damn president we ever had is an asshole. And where was your outrage then?!
I'm tired of this shit from both sides. I get pissed off at partisan hackery and absurd distortions of the truth. You, sir, are doing that with this drivel about Obama. I don't care if you dislike him as a President. I'm not a big fan, either. But if you're gonna trope this idiotic crap out, expect to get reamed for it by reasonable people.
>> ^shinyblurry:
>> ^messenger:
Yeah, I'm gonna vote Romney because he has promised not to put his feet on the coffee table. WTF? This is your criteria for a good President? Until he walks with people, he's a bad President? Get off it.>> ^shinyblurry:
I'd like him to be more polite {video}


Why is everyone so thin skinned about Obama? That's my question. I was being somewhat facetious, although I think the video, while humorous, shows a definite pattern of behavior. In any case, I'm not voting for Romney. Although I share some of his views on social issues, that isn't enough to get me past our theological differences, which are great. My prediction is that Romney will actually be far worse for this country, spiritually, than Obama. That is the reason I won't vote for anyone who doesn't worship God in spirit and in truth.



You responded to the wrong post. You can find the one where I replied to you here:

http://videosift.com/video/What-More-Do-We-Want-This-Man-To-Do-For-Us?loadcomm=1#comment-1458730

"What More Do We Want This Man To Do For Us"

heropsycho says...

For the record, I AM NOT thin-skinned about Obama. I get pissed off when people criticize Romney for firing people when he worked at Bain, when that was his FREAKING JOB! If he didn't do that, and Bain was unsuccessful, then the left would have attacked him for being a crappy businessman like George W. Bush was with a baseball team. You can't have it both ways.

Or that his dog was tied to the top of the roof on a family vacation...

Or he, along with friends, picked on someone they thought was gay decades ago in prep school, ignoring the fact everybody did stupid things in high school. It has no bearing on them decades later.

It's totally ridiculous, unproductive, divisive, and doesn't do anybody any good whatsoever. But most importantly, it detracts from honest debate about issues that actually matter.

I don't have any problems with people criticizing Obama for real issues. Him being impolite?! I watched your idiotic right-wing bent hit job video. That's impolite for a leader?! They slammed Obama for making comments where he respectfully disagreed with the Supreme Court. What should he have said instead? Did he scream at them? You know, like the dude who screamed "YOU LIED!"? NO! Him being impolite wasn't the issue. Conservatives are really just upset that he voiced his disagreement with their view, and it's spun to accuse him of being rude and disrespectful. It's ridiculous. He took Eric Cantor to task in a political discussion. Did he scream at him? Cuss at him? NO!

Here's the difference:

If you want to criticize Obama for perhaps overstepping his bounds and the ideal of separation of powers when he criticized the Supreme Court decision? Fine, I disagree, but that's an honest debate. I wouldn't be chewing you out for that.

I watched the video. I didn't see a single instance of him being overly impolite as a leader. If that's the case, every single damn president we ever had is an asshole. And where was your outrage then?!

I'm tired of this shit from both sides. I get pissed off at partisan hackery and absurd distortions of the truth. You, sir, are doing that with this drivel about Obama. I don't care if you dislike him as a President. I'm not a big fan, either. But if you're gonna trope this idiotic crap out, expect to get reamed for it by reasonable people.

>> ^shinyblurry:

>> ^messenger:
Yeah, I'm gonna vote Romney because he has promised not to put his feet on the coffee table. WTF? This is your criteria for a good President? Until he walks with people, he's a bad President? Get off it.>> ^shinyblurry:
I'd like him to be more polite {video}


Why is everyone so thin skinned about Obama? That's my question. I was being somewhat facetious, although I think the video, while humorous, shows a definite pattern of behavior. In any case, I'm not voting for Romney. Although I share some of his views on social issues, that isn't enough to get me past our theological differences, which are great. My prediction is that Romney will actually be far worse for this country, spiritually, than Obama. That is the reason I won't vote for anyone who doesn't worship God in spirit and in truth.

"What More Do We Want This Man To Do For Us"

shinyblurry says...

>> ^messenger:

Yeah, I'm gonna vote Romney because he has promised not to put his feet on the coffee table. WTF? This is your criteria for a good President? Until he walks with people, he's a bad President? Get off it.>> ^shinyblurry:
I'd like him to be more polite {video}



Why is everyone so thin skinned about Obama? That's my question. I was being somewhat facetious, although I think the video, while humorous, shows a definite pattern of behavior. In any case, I'm not voting for Romney. Although I share some of his views on social issues, that isn't enough to get me past our theological differences, which are great. My prediction is that Romney will actually be far worse for this country, spiritually, than Obama. That is the reason I won't vote for anyone who doesn't worship God in spirit and in truth.

blankfist (Member Profile)

bareboards2 says...

Well, this seems to have turned into a public forum....

I, too, miss the QUALITY contributions of blankfist, @RhesusMonk. The QUALITY contributions have been stellar. Some of the funniest things on the Sift came from his observations. Funny and smart. What's not to like?

Let me tell you.

It wasn't just the obvious trolling.

I don't miss the personal attacks, and the thin-skinned whining that followed when blankie was told off by fellow Sifters and then ultimately dag. Talk about being able to dish it out but not being able to take it!

If anyone has received preferential treatment, it has been blankie. Blankie has been responsible for driving many folks away from the sift, but because he did make QUALITY contributions, he was allowed to come back again and again.

Besides, I think this is a perfect way to flameout on the Sift, and is an absolutely PERFECT final troll on the Sift. A mere 90 or so vids away from Galaxy, and to walk away from that glory? That is classy, funny, in-your-face proud and defiant. Listed on the Top Ten with the Circle Line logo as a Galaxy symbol, as @Fusionaut noted?

The Perfect Troll. Absolutely Perfect Troll.

Fletch (Member Profile)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Just stop the sexist bullshit. The rest I couldn't care less about.

In reply to this comment by Fletch:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Alright Fletch. This misogynist harassment needs to stop. @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://dag.videosift.com" title="member since February 16th, 2006" class="profilelink"><strong style="color:#008800">dag @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://lucky760.videosift.com" title="member since May 2nd, 2006" class="profilelink"><strong style="color:#0044ff">lucky760
In reply to this comment by Fletch:
DFT & IK, it's so cute how you upvote each other's comments and videos. It sorta reminds me of the Terri Schiavo case, where her husband, Michael, supported her and efforts to bring her back to consciousness for years, even though it was obvious she was vegetative.

@sugartits.

And Berticus... oh, nm.

>> ^Fletch:
>> ^Issykitty:
It's a KITTEN, dipshit. Wow, you took the time to look at when it was uploaded. That's precious.

@Sugartits
What a strange reply to a compliment. Checking the age of a video that I knew I had seen before is no more difficult or time-consuming than viewing your ignored comments. Click. Done.



Wow. You edited your comment after submitting it. How strange. The original was reasonable and to the point ("Alright Fletch. That's enough"). When I got the email, I was just going to respond with something like "no problem, but I don't take kindly to name-calling", or something along those lines, but the new version with "misogynist harassment" sounds like a typical IK comment. You know, buzzwords intended to support a desperate, gutless fabrication. I'm sorry, but there is no way you wrote "misogynist harassment". I've just read way too much of what you've written in the past. You just aren't prone to shrill exaggeration. Buzzwords... that's IK. If I'm wrong... I'm wrong. Sorry about that.

I don't use the sarcasm box. Never will. I think it's stupid. Unfortunately, not doing so gives those who need a windmill to slay an opportunuty to be offended by something, and may give those who wish to offend a free ticket to do so. (I recently saw a comment by Lucky ((?) I think; maybe dag) tell someone that if they didn't check the sarcasm box, they would be banned for a time. Or something. Insane.) If you choose to take what I say literally, and resolve it into "misogynist harassment", then the joke is on you. I'm sorry, but it started with "dipshit". Everything after that was a REPLY. She asked for it. But that's her MO... name-calling, condescension, that strange you-must-really-want-my-attention act that is just so tired/weird, all followed by threats and the circling of wagons when none of those tactics result in the last word. That's my perception/experience with her, anyway. Call me names, it's on. I won't allow anyone to talk to me like that without responding. If she is going to be so thin-skinned about it, she should really consider carefully what she types before hitting "submit new comment".

I am an equal-opportunity stale and stupid cat video down-voter. I have no idea why she thinks she's so special. Maybe she just lives for badges, or something sad like that.

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://dag.videosift.com" title="member since February 16th, 2006" class="profilelink"><strong style="color:#008800">dag @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://lucky760.videosift.com" title="member since May 2nd, 2006" class="profilelink"><strong style="color:#0044ff">lucky760

DFT didn't quote everything. Here's the whole "conversation".

Fletch (Member Profile)

Fletch says...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Alright Fletch. This misogynist harassment needs to stop. @dag @lucky760
In reply to this comment by Fletch:
DFT & IK, it's so cute how you upvote each other's comments and videos. It sorta reminds me of the Terri Schiavo case, where her husband, Michael, supported her and efforts to bring her back to consciousness for years, even though it was obvious she was vegetative.

@sugartits.

And Berticus... oh, nm.

>> ^Fletch:
>> ^Issykitty:
It's a KITTEN, dipshit. Wow, you took the time to look at when it was uploaded. That's precious.

@Sugartits
What a strange reply to a compliment. Checking the age of a video that I knew I had seen before is no more difficult or time-consuming than viewing your ignored comments. Click. Done.



Wow. You edited your comment after submitting it. How strange. The original was reasonable and to the point ("Alright Fletch. That's enough"). When I got the email, I was just going to respond with something like "no problem, but I don't take kindly to name-calling", or something along those lines, but the new version with "misogynist harassment" sounds like a typical IK comment. You know, buzzwords intended to support a desperate, gutless fabrication. I'm sorry, but there is no way you wrote "misogynist harassment". I've just read way too much of what you've written in the past. You just aren't prone to shrill exaggeration. Buzzwords... that's IK. If I'm wrong... I'm wrong. Sorry about that.

I don't use the sarcasm box. Never will. I think it's stupid. Unfortunately, not doing so gives those who need a windmill to slay an opportunuty to be offended by something, and may give those who wish to offend a free ticket to do so. (I recently saw a comment by Lucky ((?) I think; maybe dag) tell someone that if they didn't check the sarcasm box, they would be banned for a time. Or something. Insane.) If you choose to take what I say literally, and resolve it into "misogynist harassment", then the joke is on you. I'm sorry, but it started with "dipshit". Everything after that was a REPLY. She asked for it. But that's her MO... name-calling, condescension, that strange you-must-really-want-my-attention act that is just so tired/weird, all followed by threats and the circling of wagons when none of those tactics result in the last word. That's my perception/experience with her, anyway. Call me names, it's on. I won't allow anyone to talk to me like that without responding. If she is going to be so thin-skinned about it, she should really consider carefully what she types before hitting "submit new comment".

I am an equal-opportunity stale and stupid cat video down-voter. I have no idea why she thinks she's so special. Maybe she just lives for badges, or something sad like that.

@dag @lucky760

DFT didn't quote everything. Here's the whole "conversation".

Megan Does a Solid

Fletch says...

The sarcasm box is for the malleable and thin-skinned.

Can we also get "edgy", "wtf", "not to be a dick, but...", "I know this sounds stupid, but...", "I am not a racist, but..." (aka "some of my best friends are ____... but"), "not to change the subject, but...", "I just read this on Wikipedia...", "I just Googled...", "IANAL", "rant", "ignorant rant", "red herring", "dubious/fabricated sources quoted", "correct me if I'm wrong", and "I'm so high right now" boxes?

From 1999 - Banks will say "We're gonna stick it to you"

Winstonfield_Pennypacker says...

So far, the 112th congress--which is GOP/Tea Party--is the least productive congress in history

Pht - not to put too fine a point on it - but the LESS PRODUCTIVE government is, the better off the American people are. Clinton got saddled with a GOP congress in 1992 that put the brakes on his agenda. And America BENEFITED. President Reagan and Bush1 had Democrat congresses to put the brakes on them. And America BENEFITED.

Who are the two worst presidents in American history. Bush2 and Barak Obama. Why? Because under both of them government spending has skyrocketed, fiscal policy has deteriorated, and government has increased in size, scope, lack of transparency, and lack of accountability. And what is the common thread to both of these presidents? The Congress was the SAME PARTY as the President, and thier administrations were "highly productive" (in the sense that they passed a ton of legislation).

So you guys should be praising the Tea Party for slamming the brakes on a lousy government, because when thin-skinned, tin-plated self-deluded dictator-wannabes like Obama take office we NEED a 'do nothing' Congress shutting them down. Problem with Obama is he is such a crazy dictator that he just keeps doing what he wants with czars and cabinets. In a sane world, every American would demand he be thrown out of office, pilloried in town square, and then run out of town on a rail to be dumped in Cuba, or Venezuala, Iran, or some other communist dictatorship where he could feel more at home.

These ***holes won't even debate an unbelievably important ... jobs bill,"

Good, because it isn't important. It's a disaster. And you are allowed to whine about the GOP 'not debating it' only after it makes it out of the SENATE, which is controlled by the Democrats. The fact that even the Democrats can't stand this loser piece of crap should tell you a lot about how awful it is.

Karl Rove feuds with Sarah Palin -- she's "weird"

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^quantumushroom:

Palin is thin-skinned? She's been media-assassinated by cowards from the moment McLame anounced her as running mate.
She should run; can't do any worse than the kenyan kenyanesque hawaiian.


She wasn't assassinated by the media; she was assassinated by McCain and he was smart to do it. They realized pretty quickly that she was a moron as did everyone else, including most of the Republican party. She doesn't have the fortitude to deal with opposition or challenges. She had a months-long breakdown over being asked what she reads. At the end of it all she wasn't even smart enough to be embarrassed and disappear.

Now she's surrounded herself with a team of yes-men and she's traveling the country rallying the rest of the morons. Why hasn't she thrown her hat into the race? Because she's afraid to face the criticism. She's afraid to have to answer questions from people who aren't her friends. She wants to live in her bubble-world for as long as possible. If she does throw in, it will be at the last possible minute to avoid as many debates and interviews as possible.

Karl Rove feuds with Sarah Palin -- she's "weird"

bareboards2 says...

Three words for you ---

Terrorist Fist Jab.

Don't be silly, qm. This is how it is. You have to have a thick skin. It is ugly out there. She got upset because Rove made a SPECULATION that she might be running.

She is a train wreck. I know someone who knew her in high school, and she says she was mean, mean, mean even then.

Give it up. The truth is just coming to light.


>> ^quantumushroom:

Palin is thin-skinned? She's been media-assassinated by cowards from the moment McLame anounced her as running mate.
She should run; can't do any worse than the kenyan kenyanesque hawaiian.

Karl Rove feuds with Sarah Palin -- she's "weird"



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