>> ^quantumushroom:
Like all Big Government liberals, Barry O is against citizens owning firearms.

No he isn't. He's very much like me, a gun totin' liberal. As he said in his DNC speech, we can make sure hunters keep their guns, but inner-city gangsters don't have uzi's. There's a balance there, somewhere, but there's a lot more of us hardcore libs who find the 2nd amendment untouchable. Apparently you haven't listened to his view on this issue.

"Hunting only, eh?" Taking guns from "inner-city gang members". Absolute horseshit. No president can do it, and all the 50,000 gun laws we have now do is tie down the lawful citizen. Obama is lying about his "love" of guns. He was likely as upset as the rest of the left (minus you) about the latest Supreme Court ruling that the 2nd Amendment is indeed, an individual right to bear arms.

Obama believes in an all-powerful centrist government. There's nothing government can't fix, if only they have the money...

No he doesn't. He doesn't believe in a broken and bloated gov't that does nothing for us. He believes in individual responsibilities, as well as gov't help for those who can't help themselves, and for infrastructure etc projects.

Obama wants to add billions of dollars in new and expanded programs to fight "the bloat". Does that make sense? I believe most liberals are sincere, but if you'll notice, the pool of people "who can't help themselves" seems to be expanding every day. Now we're "helping" you quit smoking, and quit eating fatty foods, see? We're your new nanny!

Also, should Obama win, I won't fault only him on government growth, the reality is the scumbag bureaucrats run Washington and they can easily outlast any and all 8-year terms.

He uses accusations of "racism" whenever he loses an argument.

Now that's just 100% bullshit. And when people like Sarah Palin call him "Sambo", to deny there's any racist attacks against him, is ridiculous.

The "sambo" charge was false.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-supporters-are-behind-palin-sambo.html

My answer to Obama's racist poor-me victim act will occur on election day. If he loses, there will be plenty of recrimination from the drive-by media about what an evil racist country America is, as if that's the only reason he lost. If he wins, they won't shut up about how wonderful it is to have a Black president, blah blah blah.

He uses class warfare.

There IS class warfare in this country. What, are you fucking insane? What do you think just happened this week? The gov't colluded with the greediest fucks on this planet to take our money, trillions of dollars of it, to pay for their mistakes.

I agree, and I agree it was wrong for these pricks to subsidize failure. But that's government for ya. If government were smaller, with limited funds, it couldn't get away with this. But historically the Left has been pushing hardest for more and more Big Government. The beast slipped its leash long ago, I'm afraid. But all these bailout don't come close to the 3 trillion wasted on the "War on Poverty".

Obama is nearly a lifelong member of a "church" that promotes Black Liberation Theology.

I hate all religions. I don't see where his bullshit is any more "neo-marxist" than any other dumbass religious believer.

Fair enough. Either Obama is lying about his faith to upset religion-haters or he sees it as a valuable tool for activism.

But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about "social change" through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation

You are absolutely nuts. Really, way way off the deep-end here, my friend.

Well, time will tell if he funds this crap, or gets the chance. I see the way American government-schools have rewritten or eliminated the teaching of history. Nothing surprises me anymore. The Democrats have sold their souls to the kook-left fringe, more so than any religious "control" the right.

Facts and logic are out the window, Obamites are electrified by these vague messages of "hope" and "change" or still part of the "Anybody but Bush" mindset.

Wow, you should try insulting more people's intelligence. Shoving everyone into this "Obamites" category shows just how little grasp you have on this election and these candidates.

It's really a compliment. It takes intelligence to have your imagination captured. I freely admit Barry is an aspiring speaker, and say also, he has not been given a thorough background check nor his lacking credentials serious consideration. It really is a case of rockstar-itis.

Still more sifters are from countries that are already socialist, so there's no conflict of interest there.

I take it you've never been outside the US then. I've traveled 1/2 of my life, lived overseas for years on end, in these "socialist" countries you know nothing about. If you think Europe is what socialism looks like, you need to go back to school.

Well, as the pundits love pointing out, the USA isn't as "sophisticated" as Europe, and the "rest of the world", with all its tinpot dictators and sheiks and corrupt regimes and double-digit unemployment welfare states supposedly despises the USA. The wisest here don't want to be anything like Europeans or anyone else.


And lastly, there are the deluded peaceniks who FEEL that the USA is morally no greater than Red China, and that despots can be 'reasoned with' if only we bring them a bouquet of their favorite flowers.

Wow, that sure is a pretty straw-man you built yourself.

These peaceniks are real enough. They've always been with us and they've always been wrong. Only war stops tyrants.

But tell me, oh wise one. When was the last time you saw one of these evil socialist European nations torture someone? When was the last time a European nation used a pack of lies to sell its citizens an illegal war, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people? When was the last time that Abu-Ghraib happened under France's watch? When was the last time any EU country called the Geneva Conventions "cute"? When was the last time any EU country thought that following international laws, and their own military code of conduct, just didn't count anymore?

There's no point trying to reason with anyone who thinks a war can be "legal" or "illegal". Wars are about survival, nothing else. A saddam-free Iraq increases America's chance for survival. A taliban-free Afghanistan increases America's chance for survival. All the other good or evil to follow is secondary.


Where I differ from others on the matter of war is I believe America is the greatest country on earth, and its only moral force. We have the RIGHT and the duty to do whatever it takes. Without the USA, the world is fucked. Europe withers before the Crescent, China is a communist nightmare, Russia is sliding backwards towards the same, the Middle East is perhaps forever a hellish hail of traded bullets. And whether Ron fucking Paul likes it or not, America has been cast in the role of world's policeman.

Wow. You seem like a very, very scared person.

I am more than worried about electing a President that hates America, who has the defense doctrine of Bill Clinton and the economic knowledge of Jimmy Carter. Should he win, we will weather four years of his ridiculousness while Congress via the people, won't support him.

Looks like this is a *dupe -ity Dupe dupe

http://www.videosift.com/video/Releasing-Balloons-for-Orphans-Does-Not-Go-as-Planned

Checking the time stamps it looks as though yours is about a day after thinker247's Though I have been known to make the occasional mistake.

my greatest regret is not curing my bone-itis

My greatest regret... is that I have... bone-itis.

Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun... It's all fine and nice, but don't forget to cure your bone-itis.

Couldn't agree more. I'm truly hoping that the sift doesn't get infected with troll-itis like youtube and so many other sites have.

Even the microwave takes a minute or two before the popcorn starts actually popping. Fake-ity fake.

*beg-ity-beg

ah that ain't nothin' but a case of the ol' IP-itis

So what is so hard about Christianity, any "ity" or "ism" to understand? As far as I can tell, both Christian's and Atheists, have not been able to figure out either system of beliefs or disbeliefs yet....at least the ones that chime in on streams like these.....

I'll agree whole-heartedly about Christians. Atheists, however? You seem to be confused as to what atheism is. It is not a system of belief or disbelief. We intentionally eschew systems. Atheism merely states that there is no god. End of story.

Atheists that keep kicking the dead horse of "There can't be a God" are as clueless as fundamentalist Christians, who take every verse in the Bible literally...

You know, all atheism says is that there is no god. If there is only one defining characteristic of a concept, then to repeat it is not "kicking a dead horse". I don't think this phrase means what you think it means.

That's like saying physicists who insist on repeating Einstein's Theory of General Relativity are kicking a dead horse. That is to say, laughable and ludicrous.

even though, interpreted correctly, the verses speak quite lucidly, of universal laws and social phenom..


Hahahahahahahahahaha. Interpreted correctly. You must be fucking kidding me.

You don't mean interpreted. You mean cherry picked. The Bible advocates racism, slavery, homophobia, genocide, mass murder, mysogyny, and all sorts of lovely things. No amount of "historical recentering" or interpretation is going to change that.

All the Atheists need is a manifesto (bible), and a meeting place, and you've got apples and oranges.....Arvana is the closest to a mark here, and anyone who asks me to explain my personal position on the matter......needs to ask more than once, with a humble and sincere heart, and even then you may be told to go fuck yerself.

Again, you seem to have atheism confused as an alternative belief system to religion. It isn't. That's why we don't have a Bible, or meetings. That would be like herding cats.

And to be frank, we also don't really give a shit what you're position is. My heart is sincere, although not very humble, when I say, get a clue about what you are talking about, or go fuck yourself as well.

A mouse that will not eat Stilton??? Now that's a messed up mouse....keep him in the maze for further..."testing"

So what is so hard about Christianity, any "ity" or "ism" to understand? As far as I can tell, both Christian's and Atheists, have not been able to figure out either system of beliefs or disbeliefs yet....at least the ones that chime in on streams like these.....

Atheists that keep kicking the dead horse of "There can't be a God" are as clueless as fundamentalist Christians, who take every verse in the Bible literally...even though, interpreted correctly, the verses speak quite lucidly, of universal laws and social phenom....

All the Atheists need is a manifesto (bible), and a meeting place, and you've got apples and oranges.....Arvana is the closest to a mark here, and anyone who asks me to explain my personal position on the matter......needs to ask more than once, with a humble and sincere heart, and even then you may be told to go fuck yerself.

Hip-ity Hop-ity Hick Hop's on it's way!

games - they are more real than real(ity).

It's a British variant. If you think about it, it's more consistent. You don't go around saying cris-chan-ity.

I'm sure glad I'm intact! The medical community appears to be leaning towards circumcision helping to avoid HIV infection (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6176209.stm) but really, it's not a big concern to me. There are enough other reasons to have some cover before going into battle, the biggest disease (in terms of probability * impact) being baby-itis! I can see that in places where suiting up is difficult and considered a sin (much of Africa, partly thanks to the Catholic church's stance) then circumcision has a point if it is proven to decrease the chance of getting HIV, however, this should not be done to anyone who is unable to give their permission, so not to babies. If you're old enough to be sexually active, then learn the facts and make your choice.

It amazes me that reaction of people to an uncircumcised dong. Here, you would get teased if you had a snipped dong which isn't much better, but at least that makes a bit of sense. Sexual performance is improved for both (or more) parties by being intact and that's a pretty big deal for guys these days. One thing they didn't mention is that unsnipped is good for the female(s) not just because it's "ribbed" and generally results in better thrusts internally, but that these shorter thrusts also cause more contact with the clitoris, thus further improving the female's sensations.

Hopefully male circumcision will come be seen in a similar light to female circumcision - a disgusting, brutal act that deserves a prison sentence. If ethical medical research finds conclusive advantages (to either sex) to circumcision (of either sex) then fine, the relevant people (i.e. the person getting snipped and possibly their partner) should talk about it, understand it and make their own choice. Heck, even if there are no advantages I guess it should be offered, if you want to lop off king kong's crown then that's your call, but ... why?


FWIW, spring rain here is quite nice. It doesn't smell ... it's water ... but it's clean and fresh. Some people still have rain barrels to collect it (yes, we have running water thank you), that's probably sold to tourists. And will probably be featured on P&T's Bullshit soon, if it wasn't already in their bottled water segment.