Looks identical to http://videosift.com/video/25-003-teddy-bears but from a different angle. Dupe?

This new fad dance is pretty hardcore....The whole idea of a plump Asian man showin'-out disco-styley with fit young gals is kinna like watching a teddy-bear-costume-wearin', death-metal band at a $5 dollar cover bar!

>> ^PalmliX:

Hey thanks for your response Enzo!
If I had a Teddy Bear, then wouldn't I be justified in believing it's real because I could sense it with all 5 of my senses? As would anyone else I handed it to?
Or are you suggesting that I couldn't detect this bear with any of my senses, but I still believed it was real? Then I think most people would probably call me mentally ill. Myself included.
I also find the idea of ganging up with other people who share a belief (even if it's completely in contrast to your own) against those without any belief, a little scary.
Is it is far better to have ANY belief, no matter how ridiculous, unfounded, or even dangerous, than no belief? And should we really team up with other believers and "go against" those who make no such claims? Personally I would call this type of behavior mob/herd mentality or gang warfare, tribalism. An us or them mentality. I find this idea in a modern society a little frightening.
Your closing question "The non-believer is the real threat, ask yourself why." It's a difficult question to answer for a "non-believer" such as myself. Non-believer in the sense that so far, no one person's claim about the existence of an invisible Teddy Bear... has convinced me enough to worry and loose sleep at night.
I don't see how someone who doesn't believe in some variation of an unprovable belief is more of a threat than someone who does. Wouldn't it just be one less thing to fight about? i.e. if no one believed in Teddy Bears then there wouldn't be an issue in the first place? Because no one would even be talking about it?
I'm interested to hear your answer!
- Adam

The teddy bear belief I put represents the belief in the supernatural. There are people who simply don't believe in supernatural things at all. No ghosts, no spirit world, no voodoo, mind reading, water divining, astrology, and yes, even gods. This is the one step you need to consider.

When you say "I don't see how someone who doesn't believe in some variation of an unprovable belief is more of a threat than someone who does.", you're admitting that the belief in question doesn't exist. It's unprovable because it's a product of the mind and is limited to the mind, otherwise there would be a way for science to detect it. It can be incredibly real for the believer, but it doesn't exist in the real world, (therefore unprovable), and doesn't effect anyone who doesn't believe it. The non-believer is the only threat because the belief is dependent on more minds that believe, that's the only way the belief can propagate. This is why religion pushes faith and belief above all else.

The benefits of not believing in the supernatural are endless. For me personally, it's that the phrase "Why me?" has lost all meaning. Just consider how much anxiety and guilt you have for things like, "am i on the right path?", "am I being punished for something?", "what's god trying to tell me?", "is that a sign or just coincidence?". All that goes away. It's liberating like you wouldn't believe.

I have a feeling that by "real" @Enzoblue meant that the Teddy bear was alive and had thoughts and desires, like most of us projected onto our stuffed animals as children, not that there was any question whether the toy physically existed in the world, like how Calvin believes Hobbes is "real".>> ^PalmliX:
If I had a Teddy Bear, then wouldn't I be justified in believing it's real because I could sense it with all 5 of my senses? As would anyone else I handed it to?

Hey thanks for your response Enzo!

If I had a Teddy Bear, then wouldn't I be justified in believing it's real because I could sense it with all 5 of my senses? As would anyone else I handed it to?

Or are you suggesting that I couldn't detect this bear with any of my senses, but I still believed it was real? Then I think most people would probably call me mentally ill. Myself included.

I also find the idea of ganging up with other people who share a belief (even if it's completely in contrast to your own) against those without any belief, a little scary.

Is it is far better to have ANY belief, no matter how ridiculous, unfounded, or even dangerous, than no belief? And should we really team up with other believers and "go against" those who make no such claims? Personally I would call this type of behavior mob/herd mentality or gang warfare, tribalism. An us or them mentality. I find this idea in a modern society a little frightening.

Your closing question "The non-believer is the real threat, ask yourself why." It's a difficult question to answer for a "non-believer" such as myself. Non-believer in the sense that so far, no one person's claim about the existence of an invisible Teddy Bear... has convinced me enough to worry and loose sleep at night.

I don't see how someone who doesn't believe in some variation of an unprovable belief is more of a threat than someone who does. Wouldn't it just be one less thing to fight about? i.e. if no one believed in Teddy Bears then there wouldn't be an issue in the first place? Because no one would even be talking about it?

I'm interested to hear your answer!

- Adam
>> ^Enzoblue:

>> ^PalmliX:


It's like if you have a teddy bear. You believe that it's real and helps/comforts you in life. Other people have different teddy bears and you laugh at them because they believe their teddy bears are real and you know they aren't. Or you have people with the same teddy bear you have, but they treat it in ways you feel is wrong and not what your teddy bear would like, using it as a pillow maybe.
Then someone comes along without any teddy bear at all and tells you that you don't need one.
Suddenly the people with other teddy bears or teddy bear ways don't seem so bad. At least they have a teddy bear. You would even gang up with the false teddy bear people to go against this guy.
The non-believer is the real threat, ask yourself why.

>> ^PalmliX:

Hi Shinyblurry,
I suppose everyone picks on you because you're one of few Christians on the sift who actually sticks around and defends his position. Are there any others? Not many stay I imagine...
Being such a representative of the faith I want to ask you an honest question that isn't designed to be sarcastic or make you look bad in any way but is just a simple question that I have wondered about for a long time and I'm curious to what your answer is because you seem to give fairly thorough answers.
Growing up I lived with a single mom who basically held the same view I held now, she didn't know if there was a God or not but she also encouraged me to experiment with any religious views that I felt like. I remember going to various church services on many different occasions, we had Jewish friends and took part in their ceremonies/festivities, same with Christian friends, even Muslim etc.. All this time my Mom was remarkable in the fact she neither dismissed or accepted any of these views, she/we simply took part with an open mind didn't try to impose any judgments. Did we give all religions equal time? No not necessarily but I don't think it would of been possible to live a more open and genuinely inquisitive childhood. My mother didn't stand in my way of finding a fulfilling religious path in life nor a none religious one.
Anyway, don't want to sidetrack this question too much, just wanted to give you some background as to where I'm coming from.
My question is this:
From this open point of view, I found that as a child, and later in life, all I saw around me were people telling me that their religion was the right one. They were all perfectly sincere and genuine in their beliefs, and they all seemed perfectly happy enough, but I personally found it odd that no God ever made an attempt to connect with me personally. From my point of view, everyone was genuine in their beliefs, but their beliefs were all different, so how was I supposed to know which one to choose? I attempted to pray to god when I was child because I was genuinely curious and wanted to know what I was missing, but I never received any indication that something was listening to me. Of course we could argue that I went about it in the wrong way, as I most likely did, but as a child (and as a grown up now) who grew up in a household where I was free to follow any path that I liked, how I was supposed to know that your God, i.e. the Christian God with Jesus in the mix was the right one to follow.
You mentioned in a previous comment that "God gives everyone enough information and opportunities to make the right choices" but personally all the information I see are 2 books and a whole bunch of HUMANS telling me that they are true. But the problem for me personally is that there are many many books with many many human supporters backing them up and from my point of view they are essentially all equal, i.e. I have never seen any indications that one group has more truth behind it than any other. Why does God then, rely on these imperfect human agents in order to spread the truth about it's existence, why didn't God attempt to make a personal connection with me?
Again please don't take this as any kind of personal attack, I'm generally interested in the answer to this question and I'd like to think that I have an open mind. In order to potentially make this question simpler to answer, here's an analogy that I think works well... say a human child was lost to his parents in the woods and he/she somehow managed to survive in the wilderness (not very likely I realize). This child would have no concept of human language or culture, would essentially be a wild animal but would still, for all intents and purposes, be human. Would this person ever come to find God/Jesus? If so how, with no bible or other people to tell him/her about it. Would God come to this person personally and inform them of everything they need to know? If so, why didn't God come to me to help me make a decision?
Cheers,
- Adam


It's like if you have a teddy bear. You believe that it's real and helps/comforts you in life. Other people have different teddy bears and you laugh at them because they believe their teddy bears are real and you know they aren't. Or you have people with the same teddy bear you have, but they treat it in ways you feel is wrong and not what your teddy bear would like, using it as a pillow maybe.

Then someone comes along without any teddy bear at all and tells you that you don't need one.

Suddenly the people with other teddy bears or teddy bear ways don't seem so bad. At least they have a teddy bear. You would even gang up with the false teddy bear people to go against this guy.

The non-believer is the real threat, ask yourself why.

I know my momma loves me
I know my poppa loves me
I know the camera loves me
I can tell my brother loves me
I know that Boston loves
And San Francisco loves me
I love the city back,
I just can't help it, it's so lovely

I'm in my lucky underwear, i'm feeling debonair
If it's a lonely trip to heaven, I'm already there
I'm in the bedroom i'm like stepping like I'm Fred Astaire
I make it happen, battlerapping at my Teddy Bear
When I was twelve I'd leave my door open a crack
afraid if getting busted sneaking porno on my mac
I guess I was a freak
Until I got caught last week
(who's been loving you?)
I was reading Booker T, I threw the book at me
I go for the lookers but they never look at me
I would get a hooker if I could unhook her bra
I'd be looking soft as soon as she took her top. off
let's go rolling in a broken winnebago
stop and smoke a bowl out of a hollowed out potato
It's hash now, but it's hash browns soon
(who's been loving you?)

I know that Jesus loves me
I know that buddha loves
The fucking easter Bunny
and the ghost of gandhi love me
I know that santa loves me
I think my Aunties love me
I know my Grandma loved me
she thought I was handsome trust me

this insanity, that's heredity
it's my family, we can let it be
wish I pretended that mom and dad are dead to me
But i love my dad, that motherfucker read to me
my first words were "where's the love?"
mad smug, assed up on a bearskin rug
fashodo, mom'll show you the photo
(who's been loving you?)
I do embarassing better
I could wear a pink sweater
with a pair of slick pleather pants
derelicte e-va-ry day and it's well known
that I hop off stage with my cell phone
fake a dropped call when everybody's near me
and shout "I love you mom!" so everybody hears me
I need to and true nothing new but
(who's been loving you?)

Even though I owe them money
I think it's pretty likely
that my whole family loves me
My lovers tend to like me
I know my homies love me
My teachers loved to hate me
The haters love to fuck with me
the fickle love me lately

I'm a percussionist. I never knew guitar
it's cheesy, but I'm stunting like a superstar
it's easy man I'm hopping out a moving car
call me weezy cause I'm coughing at the hookah bar
I don't do cigars, but I got hella game
I can make a lady out of styling gel and cellophane
so you can yell my name, I make the bed frame move
(who's been loving you?)
me and my better friends are heading to the town strip
if they don't let us in we'll never take roundtrip
because I took an hour picking out my outfit
and then I took another slicking down a cowlick
and I like house sitting, but fuck it now's different
I'm going out and there ain't a bouncer for cowtipping
So I'ma tear this joint up
And i'ma party till the hoofs point up
(who's been loving you?)

this is for Charles Barkley
This is for Poison Ivy
This it's for Draco Malfoy
And it's for Bill O'Reilly
This is for Ned Mencia
It's for the corporate lawyers
it's for the backseat drivers
And for my friend Ann Coulter

>> ^quantumushroom:

It's not often that I agree with you @quantumushroom, but you make good points. I enjoyed this trailer but it doesn't bode well for the film. A swearing pothead teddy bear? OK, that's funny, but this trailer pretty much does the joke. There needs to be a lot more to make a good 2 hours than this one joke and if a list of white-trash girls' names is the best of the rest, this movie's in trouble.
>>> It doesn't matter, that's the sad thing. Turd was probbly dirt cheap to make and the worldwide doody crowd will recover expenses. It's like the laziness that used to infect albums has shifted. Now instead of one or two songs carrying a mediocre album, one or two jokes (or one scene) can carry a whole sh1t movie.
I could see this appealing to the "Office Space" crowd (which I am a member). Although it doesn't have that "this could be me" quality, it seems to have a familiar style to it and maybe the jokes are there. (It occurs to me now that Office Space was also a live-action film by an animated cartoon creator, hmm.)
Office Space is a masterpiece. We all have met characters similar to the OS characters, it's well-acted and the dialogue flows. The plot of the outside consultants suggesting promoting the guy in a trance who does NOTHING is genius, and it's beyond funny how only Lumbergh, the memorable droning boss who is otherwise oblivious, is the only one who sees the insanity.

That said, the "one living stuffed animal" - well, it's a story. It's fiction. Maybe it's explained and maybe there are others but either way, who cares? That's the world that the story is set in and if you can't suspend disbelief then very, very little fiction must be acceptable to you.

I prefer movies obey their own rules and logic, including the logic of the fantastic. Example: In Mattress Reloaded, Neo blocks thousands of bullets with the wave of his palm, but then has to spend 20 minutes blocking kicks. Obviously they had to do something in order to have action, but what they ended up with was boring.


There's something about the atmosphere of this trailer that says Office Space to me. Whether or not the full film is anything like as good remains to be seen and in all probability it won't be anything like as good. Perhaps this appeals to me because when I was a kid, me and my brothers had teddy bears with crazy amounts of detail in the bears' imaginary world. Good times.

I don't think that Matrix Reloaded flaw is the same; at a guess in Ted, the "one living stuffed animal" is explained just by him making a wish as a child and it coming true, and why this only happens once isn't discussed. That's flimsy, but not inconsistent in the way that Reloaded was.

It's not often that I agree with you @quantumushroom, but you make good points. I enjoyed this trailer but it doesn't bode well for the film. A swearing pothead teddy bear? OK, that's funny, but this trailer pretty much does the joke. There needs to be a lot more to make a good 2 hours than this one joke and if a list of white-trash girls' names is the best of the rest, this movie's in trouble.

>>> It doesn't matter, that's the sad thing. Turd was probbly dirt cheap to make and the worldwide doody crowd will recover expenses. It's like the laziness that used to infect albums has shifted. Now instead of one or two songs carrying a mediocre album, one or two jokes (or one scene) can carry a whole sh1t movie.

I could see this appealing to the "Office Space" crowd (which I am a member). Although it doesn't have that "this could be me" quality, it seems to have a familiar style to it and maybe the jokes are there. (It occurs to me now that Office Space was also a live-action film by an animated cartoon creator, hmm.)

Office Space is a masterpiece. We all have met characters similar to the OS characters, it's well-acted and the dialogue flows. The plot of the outside consultants suggesting promoting the guy in a trance who does NOTHING is genius, and it's beyond funny how only Lumbergh, the memorable droning boss who is otherwise oblivious, is the only one who sees the insanity.


That said, the "one living stuffed animal" - well, it's a story. It's fiction. Maybe it's explained and maybe there are others but either way, who cares? That's the world that the story is set in and if you can't suspend disbelief then very, very little fiction must be acceptable to you.


I prefer movies obey their own rules and logic, including the logic of the fantastic. Example: In Mattress Reloaded, Neo blocks thousands of bullets with the wave of his palm, but then has to spend 20 minutes blocking kicks. Obviously they had to do something in order to have action, but what they ended up with was boring.






>> ^Quboid:

>> ^quantumushroom:
I'm not going to give my opinion of Prick Macfarlane the person.
From a comedy movie fan perspective this looks like five tons of crap in a two ton crate.
Any trailer that resorts to Full Metal Swearing is already really thin on material.
I'm sure there's a really good reason why there's only one living stuffed animal in a world where people don't seem to notice it's alive...and then for some reason it has a job.
From a marketing perspective, why in a movie preview would they rattle off a long list of female names--many quite popular--as the butt of a joke that's not even funny? Are they trying to get no one to see it?
I'm sure it will find a cult audience.

It's not often that I agree with you @quantumushroom, but you make good points. I enjoyed this trailer but it doesn't bode well for the film. A swearing pothead teddy bear? OK, that's funny, but this trailer pretty much does the joke. There needs to be a lot more to make a good 2 hours than this one joke and if a list of white-trash girls' names is the best of the rest, this movie's in trouble.
I could see this appealing to the "Office Space" crowd (which I am a member). Although it doesn't have that "this could be me" quality, it seems to have a familiar style to it and maybe the jokes are there. (It occurs to me now that Office Space was also a live-action film by an animated cartoon creator, hmm.)
That said, the "one living stuffed animal" - well, it's a story. It's fiction. Maybe it's explained and maybe there are others but either way, who cares? That's the world that the story is set in and if you can't suspend disbelief then very, very little fiction must be acceptable to you.

>> ^quantumushroom:

I'm not going to give my opinion of Prick Macfarlane the person.
From a comedy movie fan perspective this looks like five tons of crap in a two ton crate.
Any trailer that resorts to Full Metal Swearing is already really thin on material.
I'm sure there's a really good reason why there's only one living stuffed animal in a world where people don't seem to notice it's alive...and then for some reason it has a job.
From a marketing perspective, why in a movie preview would they rattle off a long list of female names--many quite popular--as the butt of a joke that's not even funny? Are they trying to get no one to see it?
I'm sure it will find a cult audience.


It's not often that I agree with you @quantumushroom, but you make good points. I enjoyed this trailer but it doesn't bode well for the film. A swearing pothead teddy bear? OK, that's funny, but this trailer pretty much does the joke. There needs to be a lot more to make a good 2 hours than this one joke and if a list of white-trash girls' names is the best of the rest, this movie's in trouble.

I could see this appealing to the "Office Space" crowd (which I am a member). Although it doesn't have that "this could be me" quality, it seems to have a familiar style to it and maybe the jokes are there. (It occurs to me now that Office Space was also a live-action film by an animated cartoon creator, hmm.)

That said, the "one living stuffed animal" - well, it's a story. It's fiction. Maybe it's explained and maybe there are others but either way, who cares? That's the world that the story is set in and if you can't suspend disbelief then very, very little fiction must be acceptable to you.

I'm not going to give my opinion of Prick Macfarlane the person.

From a comedy movie fan perspective this looks like five tons of crap in a two ton crate.

Any trailer that resorts to Full Metal Swearing is already really thin on material.

I'm sure there's a really good reason why there's only one living stuffed animal in a world where people don't seem to notice it's alive...and then for some reason it has a job.

From a marketing perspective, why in a movie preview would they rattle off a long list of female names--many quite popular--as the butt of a joke that's not even funny? Are they trying to get no one to see it?

I'm sure it will find a cult audience.


>> ^volumptuous:

Wow, I almost laughed. God this guy fucking sucks. First it was "oh it's a baby and a dog talking, isn't that so funny?" and now it's "oh look, it's a teddy bear talking and saying dirty words. isn't that funny!"
And no, it's not funny. It's cheap and boring.

>> ^volumptuous:

Wow, I almost laughed. God this guy fucking sucks. First it was "oh it's a baby and a dog talking, isn't that so funny?" and now it's "oh look, it's a teddy bear talking and saying dirty words. isn't that funny!"
And no, it's not funny. It's cheap and boring.


Family Guy, the "Talking Baby and Talking Dog show"...

Have you even watched it?

Plus, Wilfred already did this and better.>> ^volumptuous:

Wow, I almost laughed. God this guy fucking sucks. First it was "oh it's a baby and a dog talking, isn't that so funny?" and now it's "oh look, it's a teddy bear talking and saying dirty words. isn't that funny!"
And no, it's not funny. It's cheap and boring.

well, it's not cheap... dude's a millionaire. and while boring is a matter of taste, wit is a matter of skill.>> ^volumptuous:

Wow, I almost laughed. God this guy fucking sucks. First it was "oh it's a baby and a dog talking, isn't that so funny?" and now it's "oh look, it's a teddy bear talking and saying dirty words. isn't that funny!"
And no, it's not funny. It's cheap and boring.

Wow, I almost laughed. God this guy fucking sucks. First it was "oh it's a baby and a dog talking, isn't that so funny?" and now it's "oh look, it's a teddy bear talking and saying dirty words. isn't that funny!"

And no, it's not funny. It's cheap and boring.