The indictment can be found here, the corresponding DoJ press release here. And someone listed up a few key points over at reddit.
>> ^entr0py:

I thought sites like MegaUpload play by the same rules as YouTube. That is, users upload the files freely without human review, and so there's inevitably a lot of copyright violations. And, in exchange, the site immediately caves to any DMCA takedown request without reviewing it's merits.
How is their business model any different than YouTube?

I thought sites like MegaUpload play by the same rules as YouTube. That is, users upload the files freely without human review, and so there's inevitably a lot of copyright violations. And, in exchange, the site immediately caves to any DMCA takedown request without reviewing it's merits.

How is their business model any different than YouTube?

>> ^Payback:

Ooooo, we took down websites! We are more powerfull than... umm... those guys in Beat Street that tagged NY subway trains...

Until websites become the black, oozing, horrific monsters in Neuromancer, it's just graffiti.


How about if they crash all online trading?...or bank transfers? They should start out slow so there's things to do to progress. They could seriously harm our economic system if they wanted to but they recognize of course that this would also be harming a LOT of innocents trying to do business.

Lets see where they go...it's a progression.

>> ^Payback:

Ooooo, we took down websites! We are more powerfull than... umm... those guys in Beat Street that tagged NY subway trains...

Until websites become the black, oozing, horrific monsters in Neuromancer, it's just graffiti.


I was just thinking that to myself earlier, but when they mentioned artists, musicians and writers it struck a kind of chord. It's interesting that they appeal to those targets. Because i guess if you were gonna try and force a real revolution of modern youth, then you'd really need bands growing up making songs about your cause, blogs, tweets, facebook, flickr.. All of those things, most of modern youth culture is intertwined with the internet and communications, so i have to say... maybe they're not so stupid afterall, maybe the internet is a pretty good place to start a "revolution".

>> ^Payback:

Until websites become the black, oozing, horrific monsters in Neuromancer, it's just graffiti.


I read that book (Gibson, William: Neuromancer) and its vision impressed me very much. It's an "old" yet fantastic imagination of cyberspace. Recommended!

Yeah... I was given a takedown notice, so I removed it.

And I know all three of these were sparked by Michael Bloomberg, but here's three different awesome takedowns of the "government created the crisis" bullshit:

http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2011/11/01/bloombergs-awful-comment-what-can-we-say-for-certain-regarding-the-gses/

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/mike-bloombergs-marie-antoinette-moment-20111103

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/what-caused-the-financial-crisis-the-big-lie-goes-viral/2011/10/31/gIQAXlSOqM_story.html?sub=AR

Feel free to deploy any or all of them on anyone who ever says that to you.

@heropsycho I largely agree with that, but I also think there's a bit too much of a tendency for the left to undercut their own messaging.

For example, the Ryan plan involved changing Medicare from a single-payer insurance program, into a set of vouchers that seniors could use to buy private insurance.

Democrats said this would "end Medicare." They're right.

However, for some reason, Democrats listened to the people who said that it doesn't end Medicare, it reforms it.

So Dem's changed their messaging and said this would "end Medicare as we know it", but still people nitpicked, and they added more and more caveats, until they finally just dropped it entirely.

Good job. Rather than cutting through the bullshit and saying the real truth (Republicans want to end Medicare, and Paul Ryan's plan will do it) in a succinct and powerful way, you have this overly hedged weasely sounding soundbite that has been effectively de-fanged by the left trying to make their attack ads stand up to some sort of academic standard of intellectual honesty.

Most people don't think that hard about this stuff. There's a time and a place for a more nuanced takedown of the Ryan plan, but for a 30-second attack add, it should be "Republicans want to End Medicare". You don't want nuance, you want blunt, emotional messages that cut to the real truth of the matter.

So yeah, Romney says he doesn't want to "dismantle" Medicare, he says he wants to give people the ability to opt-out...which experts say would undermine the single-payer part, and eventually lead to its collapse. And very recently, he's started talking up the Ryan Plan, which would end Medicare.

So does that make it "utter BS"? No, I say the utter BS when Romney tells people he wants to preserve the idea that our government must take care of the health care costs of seniors.

I have a similar take on people on the left criticizing Obama. It's good to keep it real about what he's doing, and not try to pretend he's something he's not. But it doesn't help if liberals go out and buy into the right-wing frame that Obama is the source of everything that's wrong in America right now, especially when that isn't even remotely true.

Obama can't win unless liberals support him. If they don't, then whatever clown the Republicans nominate will be President, and they'll wind up with both chambers of Congress too. I guess that'll teach him to be a moderate!

Not to be a smartass at all, but why are we *discussing this? If there's a valid DMCA takedown request, shouldn't it just be killed? Or is this the standard procedure and I just haven't seen it before?

>> ^lucky760:

@Boise_Lib: We were provided a full, valid DMCA takedown notice. (Whenever we don't see one, we don't comply. ) I just pasted the pertinent bit.
@gwiz665: You're right about that. Fortunately, though, we aren't obliged to do anything about it unless presented with a valid claim of copyright infringement.


Oh. Shit.

@Boise_Lib: We were provided a full, valid DMCA takedown notice. (Whenever we don't see one, we don't comply. ) I just pasted the pertinent bit.

@gwiz665: You're right about that. Fortunately, though, we aren't obliged to do anything about it unless presented with a valid claim of copyright infringement.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

This post is subject to a DMCA takedown notice. Sorry. *kill

>> ^Deano:

Is this faked like the other type of wrestling?


Nope

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*quality takedown of Faux News' inevitable hypocrisy.