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White House revokes CNN reporters press pass

Briguy1960 says...

If someone accosts another person, especially a stranger, they stop them or go up to them and speak to them in a way that seems rude or threatening.
[formal, disapproval]
A man had accosted me in the street. [VERB noun]
Synonyms: confront, challenge, address, stop More Synonyms of accost
COBUILD Advanced English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers
Word Frequency
accost in British
(əˈkɒst )
verb
1. (transitive)
to approach, stop, and speak to (a person), as to ask a question, accuse of a crime, solicit sexually, etc

It is suggesting the police were in error or were being rude at best.
This is how most people of my generation would understand the term.
So all I have to do is shed my clothes now and let things swing in the wind and I can do whatever I please, even coming within feet of the potus?
I don't think It would be a pretty picture/outcome for several reasons.
Biased reporting.
Just because Fox does it doesn't make it right.
You admit you can't even stand watching Fox for more than a couple of minutes.
You therefore have no ground to stand on.
You must endure it until your hair starts falling out as I have with CNN.
That's about 5 minutes.

Another definition might work as well.
The reporter constantly berated,grandstanded and hogged the microphone refusing to show an ounce of decorum.
He pulled an Acosta.

newtboy said:

No sir. There is a world of difference between slight bias in reports about the nationalistic leader who continues to attack all actual news reporters like a 2 year old and direct his terroristic followers to attack them as enemies of the people and a deeper level of bias against all non right wingers paired with outright campaigning for the same anti free press candidates.

Wait...you still defend Fox as having reporting but claim you don't need someone to bend facts? Bending facts like using proper English to describe a scene? But reporting on the birther movement for years as true, and the ridiculous waste of money named the Benghazi investigation, continued denial of climate science, etc. does bother you? Fox doesn't bend fact, they omit it. They don't get credit for using 5% (yes, that's exaggerated) truth to sell their lies.

I watched Chris Wallace interview Conway just yesterday (for as long as I could stand it, which admittedly was only a few minutes), his questions were ok, but delivered with a slow underhand pitch and with no follow-up or contradiction of her ridiculous rambling factless replies. That's not good reporting, it's being the setup for spreading their agenda/propaganda.

You think CNN goes to far by using words like "accost" to describe 3 policemen tackling a topless woman in tights, and while you claim to have looked up the definition , you still claim the word is somehow loaded and not proper. Please explain.

When the police were going after the fleeing armed supporters of Mr Bundie under Obama I think you likely called them violent thugs who attacked that poor innocent man unnecessarily....Fox did. That man was armed and an anti American terrorist, but right wing so Fox called him a strong patriotic American standing up for American values that the unAmerican Kenyan thug in the Whitehouse wanted to murder.
There is no equivalence. Fox is (disgusting unAmerican) entertainment, not news. There is no right wing news outlet, they are all propaganda outlets and little more today.
The Ministry of Truth doesn't need fact, you will believe any nonsense they tell you to, even when it contradicts what they had you believe yesterday. They have you believing any non Trump biased news is fake news reported with hyper liberal bias, even in other countries, but Fox has good reporting and less bias.
*facepalm

Woman Tries To Block access to Apartment

newtboy says...

Granted. As I wrote above, I think it's likely they both were telling the truth....her leash propped the door open, so he assumed it opened with his fob, she assumed he didn't use one. Neither noticed what the other was doing and both assumed the worst....difference being his assumption was she's a jerk requiring no action, her assumption was he's an intruder in her secure building, requiring action.

Because this is a safety issue and there had been numerous requests by management to under no circumstances allow a stranger into the building without using their fob, and he knew that, and all he would have to do is waive his hand with the fob still in it at the scanner instead of force his way past her physically and be rude and suspicious (showing a random fob doesn't prove a bit it's for that building without using it successfully).....for those reasons combined, I put the lion's share of blame on him.

The entirety of the insanely overboard consequences fell on her before anyone had even partial explanation of her side.

As I also said, I think she should have called police the instant he pushed past her and just followed him, but she wasn't trying to escalate things like I think he was.

I can't be certain of her motives, but I've stopped people from just pushing into my secure building when I lived in one, blacks, whites, Mexicans, men, women, even kids. I made them all use their key or buzz the apartment they were visiting. Had anyone acted like he did, pushing in like a burglar, I would not have been nearly as calm and composed as she was, even if they were a white child....they steal too.

I'm glad you think the reaction as overboard, at least we can agree this didn't warrant death threats on either side.

ChaosEngine said:

It's kind of impossible to take any kind of sensible position without knowing the context of both sides.

Just because she's married to a black guy doesn't mean she doesn't have a bias against other black guys. There are plenty of studies that show even other black people have an unconscious bias against black dudes. It's not just personal, it's cultural and systemic.

So yeah, maybe he wasn't "reasonable" and maybe he didn't feel like being reasonable. Maybe he'd had a shit day and didn't feel like being interrogated on the way into his own apartment.

He said he had a key fob and even showed it to her. You can clearly see it in the video.

And I can think she was in the wrong without condoning death threats against her.

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newtboy says...

I think it's not likely she would have been so insistent he was barging in if he had used his key fob as he claims, but when he had a working key to his apartment that should have made it obvious he belonged there, after that I'm not sure why the police were needed. That's the only thing I see she did that was uncalled for, calling the police after he produced and used a working apartment key.

I do agree, she should have just called the police (not the board) immediately and kept an eye on him and not tried to physically stop him, for her own safety and liability. I don't agree she should ignore a stranger pushing their way into a secure building, even without the HOA emails. That's just being responsible.

The article indicated she had produced multiple emails from the HOA/management telling her (and every other tenant) to not allow anyone they don't personally know inside without using their key fob, which is what I believe he did, not use the key fob. (If he had used his fob, he could have easily let the door close and used it again in <2 seconds instead of intentionally creating this incident he recorded and uploaded to shame her, it would still be in his hand. It's possible they're both telling the truth, her leash was holding the door open and he used his fob, wrongly assuming that's why the door opened while she wrongly assumed he just pushed it open.)
If that's correct, the HOA asked residents to act as amateur security, I'm curious how they expect that to be enforced against people like him who not only ignore that request but rudely insist on being intentionally obtuse and looking as suspicious as possible. I also wonder if this was his intent with his suspicious actions, creating another racist white woman to figuratively publicly lynch. It seems likely, considering all the facts and the current climate, and his actions during and after the incident. He's milking this for every second of public exposure he can, from what I've seen, being interviewed on every newsertainment show that will have him.

Mordhaus said:

She claims she had the door cracked and he came in. He claims he used his key fob, you can hear him in his video claiming he buzzed in with it at 1:31.

As an individual member of the HOA, she is not allowed to enforce anything. She can report the incident to the Board and they can enforce fines etc. The HOA board hasn't even stuck up for her actions, which means they are likely sending out messages telling their fellow condo owners to act as security in lieu of actual security.

You can tell she knew she fucked up when she saw him put his keys in the door to his condo. She may not be racist, but she is the type of person that shot Trayvon Martin. We should likely be glad she didn't own a firearm.

Woman Tries To Block access to Apartment

newtboy says...

It is in that building, according to the management. They asked everyone living there to never allow strangers in who don't use their key fob, and he didn't.
He was in the wrong, doubly so for labeling her a racist for being a good concerned neighbor.
I hope the next person barging into the building isn't stopped and robs his ass blind.

bobknight33 said:

This is not her job to check. Being a busy body neighbor is not her job.

She is in the wrong.

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newtboy says...

As I thought, one more instance of a white woman following the rules by asking a black man to follow the fucking rules, and so she's labeled a racist.....who's married to an African American. *facepalm

The man pushed his way into the secure building as she opened the door for her dog and refused to tell her which apartment he lived in or demonstrate that he had a key to the building. He knew that was the procedure requested by the building owners/managers, he got the same emails requesting no one allow any stranger into the secure building that she did, but he refused to follow procedure.
What's more, he decided to publicly shame her over attempting to follow posted safety procedures and building rules because he's racist. Guaranteed he would not have recorded and publicized this if she were black doing exactly the same thing, and news outlets wouldn't air it if he did, but because she's white, game on.

Now, for properly following the building rules, she's fired, ostracized, and getting multiple death threats daily. That's outrageous. He should have the same consequences, as the actual racist in this situation.

Bbq where it's not allowed and rudely refuse to move to where it is allowed, I'll call the cops. Loudly hawk water under my window all day without a permit and rudely refuse to move, I'll call the cops. Push into my secure building and act like a rude intruder instead of my new neighbor, I'll call the cops. I don't give one single fuck what color your skin is.....this bullshit that a white person"snitching" on a black person (who is violating the posted rules/law and being a rude asshole about it) is reason to call them racists is just that, bullshit.
Call me a racist now, because dark skin won't protect you from having to follow the rules and law or be stopped/ reported around me any more or less than pink, yellow, tan, red, or any other color skin would.
Downvote spreading this narrative that whites must ignore the rude illegal actions of non whites or be labeled racist. Fuck that, homie don't play dat.

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BSR says...

Reminds me of this TV listing:

The Wizard Of Oz (8-10 p.m., TCM)

Transported to a surreal landscape, a
young girl kills the first person she meets
and then teams up with three strangers
to kill again.

Unarmed child shot in the back while running from police

newtboy says...

Easy to say when you're white, adult, and you weren't just shot at by strangers. Keep in mind this was a kid who had just been shot at, so probably not the world's best decision maker at that moment.....
Choice 1) Submit yourself to the whims of what you believe are racist cops more interested in convicting black kids than the truth that already sound convinced you're a murderer they want to kill, knowing just the accusation will ruin if not end your life or 2) attempt to escape with your hands visible so they know you aren't threatening.

That cop's boss disagrees with you and said he was reckless and unsafe to a criminal extent and didn't follow procedure, as did the DA. You'll excuse me if I put more stock in their professional opinions than yours.
That said, white cop/black kid, so he probably won't be convicted, but be clear that's not the same as being cleared of wrongdoing. There's zero question he did wrong, he shot the wrong unarmed kid in the back 3 times. If it were your kid I doubt you would make excuses for the ex-officer or be so quick to pay him on the back for executing them.

bobknight33 said:

Sorry, no sympathy.
Don't act guilty by running away.
The cop was doing his job correctly and will be cleared of any wrong doing.

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John Oliver - Mike Pence

newtboy says...

"saying humans are born with either a penis or vagina isn't a hateful statement against people."
It absolutely is hateful to hermaphrodites, clearly saying they aren't human. Use the qualifier "usually" or "almost always".

"As for gender being something different than sex, if you define it that way"
No, you said that. I'm saying all the physical attributes of gender are changeable besides the brain, and many humans with male gonads have female brains, and vice versa. Today, gonads can be surgically changed, so where is gender? I argue it's in the brain, which today can't be changed.
Gender is different from sexuality, clearly, no?
Edit: I guess I do think gender is different from "sex", if sex is determined solely by your gonads.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction
....as to who cares about gender....the bigoted bakers do. ;-)

We're talking perceived race, gender, sexuality, ethnic group, as identified by the discriminating individuals. They don't DNA scan or brain scan customers before serving (or denying) them, they react based on perception.

Skin color, that's totally changeable. Never heard of spray tans or bleach? Try watching Eddie Murphy's 'White like me'.

Odd you might argue against perception being the measure, since you seemed to argue that gays could be perceived as acceptably heterosexual by not acting on their uncontrollable urges and desires, bypassing the bigoted discrimination, essentially by lying.

Again it's about perceived ethnicity, not actual genetic heritage. Like you say, your actual heritage is unidentifiable by strangers, so less important to this discussion of public business discrimination.
If I want my wedding cake for me and Chris, and I wear my pink paisley silk shirt, leather chaps, choker, and heavy makeup to buy it that doesn't make me gay but the bigot baker would still deny me because he would assume I was.



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