hangin'-out with a group of those North Korean traffic-directing maidens at a karaoke bar then after in the suite would have to be on my bucket list...after the re-working of the parallel, of course (*pencils in, between naked Moroccan hooka desert party and spelunking Montauk Air Force Station on acid)

>> ^curiousity:
Thank you for providing this example of your irrationality and intellectual dishonesty by, among other things, completely ignoring the counterpoints to the few studies I was able to get to.

I didn't ignore your counterpoints, I just took them in the balance of this comment of yours:

"Ha. I really have better things to do than continue this conversation that you've, obviously for a long time, been preparing for"

Since you had already dismissed me as unworthy of your time, I saw little reason to devote much of my time to responding to your points. And even if everything you said were true, which I do not concede, it still wouldn't be enough to overturn the general conclusion of homosexuality being harmful to the individual, community and society. The evidence from the Netherlands is particularly powerful as it shows that even in societies that are open to homosexuality, the risk factors are the same or even worse. I'll address your points:

gay party scene: please be specific..I can think of one study.

too old: if it has changed, please show the data

>> ^curiousity:
"Link below is from 2003. It clearly shows the need for STD and sex education in this country. If I was less educated and wasn't worried about getting a woman pregnant, I wouldn't worry about condoms either. It's not a hard concept, but one that I imagine you will easily dismiss because it undermines your argument."

Are homosexuals less educated on STDs and sex education? How else do you account for them being 63 percent of all new cases? Why are the statistics the same everywhere you look. Sex education can only do so much..many people know when they are engaging in risky behavior and do it anyway.

>> ^curiousity:
"A study from two cities in a southern state from 1994. I've included a quote for this study that, apparently, you overlooked: "Although a low response rate severely limits the interpretation of these data, they are justified by the absence of similar published data for both gays and lesbians living outside major metropolitan areas." (This data isn't very useful, but we don't have any other data so we should use it. Again, not a hard concept, but it undermines you conclusions... Ignore! Ignore!)"

Here is more data:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15838193

>> ^curiousity:
"I like how you didn't read all of those 134 words in the second link - "helps users escape internalized homophobia or other social stigmas." I also find it shocking that gay men in long-term, stable relationships are not constantly going to an STD testing clinic - Does this point make sense? You haven't been completely robbed of all logic, have you? If you want to be a little more honest with yourself and actually look at the studies, it is easy to see the gaps that undermines your jumping to validate your viewpoint."

I'm sure that some drug use may be based on their feelings of being persecuted, but if it's all based on discrimination then why are the usage rates the same in countries where homosexuality is practically institutionalized? I also wonder where personal responsibility ever comes into play? Do you think people can blame all of their behavior on environmental factors and not take any responsibility for their own choices? If I lose all of my money because of some dishonest bank and become homeless, does that mean I now have a right to steal? Or when I steal, am I not a criminal?

>> ^curiousity:
There is a classic false argument of saying that being intolerant of intolerance is actually intolerance. If you want to classify my refusal to allow your intolerant claims to stand unabated in that manner, so be it. I do apologize that I didn't make myself more clear about not thinking you were a homophobe, but the simple fact is that I look at people's actions and speech instead of why they say they are doing something. Your actions of condemnation are the same end result and that is what I meant to draw the parallel too, but I had to leave for work and unfortunately didn't make that point clearly.

How are my claims intolerant? I am not intolerant of anyone, I am intolerant of sin. There is a difference between judging someone as a person and judging their behavior. I am incapable of judging anyone, because I would only be a hypocrite, being equally guilty as they are, but I can tell if what they're doing is right or wrong. And yes, it is intolerant (by definition) to be intolerant of those who don't tolerate your position. You either welcome everyone to the table, including those who disagree with you, or you do exactly what you accuse them of doing to you.

>> ^curiousity:
It irks me that you dismiss what I say as trying to undermine only part of your evidence. (To be more honest, I think that irksome feeling is more tied into your utter refusal to address those points of contention… which was expected, but still frustrating.) I didn't have enough time to go through all of your provided evidence. I had to leave for work soon and while writing is lovely, it is a laborious action for me - it takes a while for me to write anything surpassing cursory. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, is that I actually was reading and thinking about the studies. So while you were able to throw together quite a few apparently supporting studies for your viewpoint in an hour, I was much slower because I read those studies beyond the headline and skimming the abstract. Congratulations, you succeeded in becoming skillful on the quantity side... perhaps now it is time to focus on the quality side.

As I indicated, your post was dismissive..therefore I didn't spend much time on it. I appreciate the time you did spend but there was no indication you weren't interested in further dialogue.

>> ^curiousity:
Please in the future, respond after reading/viewing any evidence provided. This is similar to all the comments I see here asking you to actually watch the video before announcing that (shock!) what you thought was right was still right because you saw something that you disagree with in the first couple of minutes. If you don’t have the evidence or that evidence is something is the hazy distance of memory, just leave a comment that you need to refresh your memory on those resources. I completely understand this situation as I voraciously and nomadically spelunk into various intellectual subjects. On a semi-regular basis and depending on the subject, I will have to re-find that research that I faintly remember. I know that my writing style can come off as hyper-aggressive and be a little off-putting (especially when coupled how people have responded to you here on videosift.) I can only speak for myself, but if your response to my initial comment said simple that you had read it in some research long ago, that was hazy, and you needed to find those sources – this conversation could have went a very different route.

I'm open to a change in conversation. I am not super interested in arguing about statistics until kingdom come. I realize that they are not going to convince you of anything. I was just trying to support my statement. Since you feel that you understand some psychological motive about me that underlies my behavior, what do you think that is exactly? I can tell you that I do sincerely feel love for all people, even those who openly hate me. Mind you, sometimes I fail to show it, or even show the opposite..but that is something the Lord is helping me with. Some people are harder to love than others, but I see them all as being in the image of God and worthy of my love and respect. I can honestly say that have no predisposition against homosexuals, but you feel I do; so tell me why.

>> ^curiousity:

>> ^shinyblurry:

>> ^shinyblurry:

...snip...

Thank you for providing this example of your irrationality and intellectual dishonesty by, among other things, completely ignoring the counterpoints to the few studies I was able to get to.

There is a classic false argument of saying that being intolerant of intolerance is actually intolerance. If you want to classify my refusal to allow your intolerant claims to stand unabated in that manner, so be it. I do apologize that I didn't make myself more clear about not thinking you were a homophobe, but the simple fact is that I look at people's actions and speech instead of why they say they are doing something. Your actions of condemnation are the same end result and that is what I meant to draw the parallel too, but I had to leave for work and unfortunately didn't make that point clearly.

It irks me that you dismiss what I say as trying to undermine only part of your evidence. (To be more honest, I think that irksome feeling is more tied into your utter refusal to address those points of contention… which was expected, but still frustrating.) I didn't have enough time to go through all of your provided evidence. I had to leave for work soon and while writing is lovely, it is a laborious action for me - it takes a while for me to write anything surpassing cursory. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, is that I actually was reading and thinking about the studies. So while you were able to throw together quite a few apparently supporting studies for your viewpoint in an hour, I was much slower because I read those studies beyond the headline and skimming the abstract. Congratulations, you succeeded in becoming skillful on the quantity side... perhaps now it is time to focus on the quality side.

Please in the future, respond after reading/viewing any evidence provided. This is similar to all the comments I see here asking you to actually watch the video before announcing that (shock!) what you thought was right was still right because you saw something that you disagree with in the first couple of minutes. If you don’t have the evidence or that evidence is something is the hazy distance of memory, just leave a comment that you need to refresh your memory on those resources. I completely understand this situation as I voraciously and nomadically spelunk into various intellectual subjects. On a semi-regular basis and depending on the subject, I will have to re-find that research that I faintly remember. I know that my writing style can come off as hyper-aggressive and be a little off-putting (especially when coupled how people have responded to you here on videosift.) I can only speak for myself, but if your response to my initial comment said simple that you had read it in some research long ago, that was hazy, and you needed to find those sources – this conversation could have went a very different route.

lol@trampoliney, yes it was!
You sift spelunker you, thank you for the finds!

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
You must watch geo's http://videosift.com/video/zZz , it's cool... and trampoliney.

Oh, and this is a hoot:

http://videosift.com/video/Elvis-Laments-My-Two-got-Chewed

Full Lyrics:

--Satori
Just gonna stand here
while you go dig
Im so angry
as you ride off on your pig
Just gonna build here
I'm doin' fine
It's allright because
I love the way you mine
Love the way you mine

--hojjoshmc
I can't tell you where the diamonds are
I can only tell you where they might be
But normally I have the best of luck around 16
I can't see, but I got my torchlight tonight
As long as I'm down here I know creepers could be in sight
know we should build, but it can wait, it's like I'm gonna faint
and I hate it, the more im down here, she suffocates
and right before I'm about to score a creeper locates me
he freakin hates me, but I saw em, wait
"Where you goin"
"im going back"
"No you ain't! Get back!"
I'm walking straight back, but here she's goes again
It's so mundane, but when the minin's good the minin's great
I'm on top of the world with the gems at my feet, she's praising me
But when it's bad its awful Man I'm so ashamed
She snaps, "I thought you found some, I don't see a grain"
I just looked at her, I told her I could mine some gems
I just gotta find em first and then...

--Satori
Just gonna stand here
while you go dig
Im so angry
as you ride off on your pig
Just gonna build here
I'm doin' fine
It's allright because
I love the way you mine
Love the way you mine

--hojjoshmc
You ever want some diamonds so bad
You can hardly think till you find em?
They're rare, and neither one of you ever even mined em
got that dark sinking feelin, that you always will be leaving
and she's getting really sick of building for ya
You swore you never leave her, never do nothing without her
Now you're fighting every day
Spewing items in their face that'll teach em
You yell, scream until you're red, jump spin
Kick em, but he's leaving to find diamonds in the morning just remember
It's the hunt that's the reason, it controls his mind
Friends say he's obsessed
They think you shouldn't stay
You say they don't know im
Cause today
Isn't yesterday
Today's almost over
and he's still away
sounds like the green record
playing over
But he promised you
This time he wont make you wait
You gave him another chance
I guess he respawned in the game
But he lied again
Now he gets to watch you leave out the server
Might never return again

--Satori
Just gonna stand here
while you go dig
Im so angry
as you ride off on your pig
Just gonna build here
I'm doin' fine
It's allright because
I love the way you mine
Love the way you mine

--hojjoshmc
If only he could spawn things
Big things
Then he wouldn't leave
But still he goes back
Into the same mine and
mines it clean
But you're doing just as good
Without him
But it's you he needs
And when he comes back home
You are reminded
Man he wants you back
He just messaged you
"Honey it was me"
Maybe our new world
Has a lot more dangers than it seems
So I think I'll cool off
And I'll help you build something
All know is
our house is way too small
To be out spelunking
Get inside
Pick up your chest off the ground now
Don't you see me chasing down
this stupid little brown cow?
Here's some leather pants now
Defend me while I build now
Next time you leave
I'll set the spawn in the air now
Next time?
There won't be a next time
Giving up my mines
For ya But you know it's lies
You're tired of his lame
Excuses you're glad he's back
You know his dishonest
If he ever tries to leave to mine again
You're gon' throw him in the bed
And set this house on fire

--Satori
Just gonna stand here
while you go dig
Im so angry
as you ride off on your pig
Just gonna build here
I'm doin' fine
It's allright because
I love the way you mine
Love the way you mine

Ohh spallation... Damnit, was anticipating a spelunking fix.

>> ^arvana:

The half-life of the transverse waves propagated from that slap indicate a damping factor of: FIRM.


You said exactly what I was going to post! So, instead...

In this new video being created by our highly skilled graduates; the camera speed will be slightly slower at 1000 FPS @1920x1080 (or higher if intended for use with IMAX or a screen over two meters) with a secondary stream containing a duplicate, but separate feed set proportionately two-centimeters apart from the other feed. Then slightly zoomed out at around a 5.7% overall frame increase in size and a slight 2° shift from the vertical, counter-clockwise. Then combine the two feeds to one feed, except beforehand, polarize the frames (or frame frequencies) 90° from the other (relatively). Hand out polarized glasses--that of course have a film matched to the polarized frequency. Then increase the overall playback time, matching with the framerate speed, to give a new perceived 30 minute length (20 seconds is ridiculous).

Then some 1960's or 1970's music can be added in (the beat of the music must match the wave speed; some "human intercourse" period film pieces may have the required music) to further increase the relation of wave propagation seen in the video demonstration. This will help add to the overall immersion and enjoyment of the experience.

Then, we suggest the use of lubrication (Group 5, with a Viscosity of 800cSt is recommended) and then use some transformational waves (many options are available) at a decent amplitude and frequency. One traditional method used is caused by simple human mechanical kinetic manipulation (flexing muscle groups) in a rhythmic horizontal/vertical oppositional motion spread out over a chosen time span. Speed, duration, and intensity are decided by the user or a human/non-human counterpart. Typically, this will propagate a strand of flagellates into a D-glucose polysaccharide chains in a combined structure for simple discontinuation and cleanup; then quickly proceeding on to the web browser and watching the next "sift*".

If "flagellate" reaction is not noticed or possible for you, please follow the yellow strip on the floor. On your way out you may participate in our free clinical study looking for medical problems. You will need to put on a special garment for the study, and you will receive a complimentary lollipop! Do not be disturbed if this reaction is not noticed as it is a well known and documented myth created by the sub-species that is the focus of our demonstration video. Do not be disturbed if you think you look like as said sub-species.

Thank you for watching our dissertation on wave propagation.
We look forward to our next project on fluid dynamics!


*sift, definition below

sift (sift)
verb. sift·ed, sift·ing, sifts
v.tr.
1. To put (flour, for example) through a sieve or other straining device in order to separate the fine from the coarse particles.
2. To distinguish as if separating with a sieve: sifted the candidates for the job.
3. To apply by scattering with or as if with a sieve: sift sugar on a dessert.
4. To examine and sort carefully: sift the evidence.
v.intr.
1. To make use of a sieve.
2. To pass through or as if through a sieve: a meal that sifts easily.
3. To make a careful examination: sifted through back issues of the magazine.

sift (suhifft)
noun. sift·ed, sift·ing, sifts, spelunking
n.wtf.
1. A video on the website called "Videosift™"; sometimes amusing.
2. A video not on the website called "Videosift™", fought over in a mating like ritual to become a sift.

Saw this when I worked at the hospital. My thoughts immediately went to spelunking for some reason.

Sex tourism? I'd hate to be that tour guide.

For those of you on the right side of the tram, if you look out you'll see a penis spelunking area.

Be sure to stop at our gift shop for penicillin!

I. Love. Spelunking.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> ^Eklek:
er, we do have a travel channel..
We urgently need africa, europe, latin(o), arctic to complete the set.

We most certainly do NOT urgently need a Latino, Africa or arctic channel - for ANY reason.
They would have a grand total of like, 15 videos in them.

Yea...and we need a *brunette, *underwaterbasketweaving and *spelunking channels as well.

fedquip has been awarded an eternal upvote, for his quality, editorial spelunking.

Giuliani makes me wanna slap somebody.....again....building 7...the imploded one, with swamp fuel tanks inside, that ignited because of the airplane part........and brought it down in nice pile......