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half snail, half plant - or - solar powered slug

cindercone says...

..Roughy, what better way could there possibly be to harness solar energy than to power autonomous vaginas? Here we are at the pinnacle of our evolution, and we find that a divergent species of human has evolved completely unknown to us. A form of human which is perfect: That is a woman which has no other parts except for a vagina and a clitoris, and the whole thing is solar powered! You don't even have to buy it dinner!

I hereby declare Evolution complete! great job!

half snail, half plant - or - solar powered slug

rougy says...

>> ^imstellar28:
I think the root of your fallacy is the assumption that knowledge is free.


Knowledge may not be free, but ignorance is far more expensive.

It never even occurred to me to transfer this to human beings.

I was thinking more along the lines of learning new and better ways to harnass solar energy.

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Breakthrough in storing Solar Energy

A giggling robot becomes one of the kids.

oileanach says...

Sure, this is how it starts, all cute and hugs and naptime... until those kids are handling the spent fuel rods and dangling beneath ships in the north Atlantic fixing cable, and the robot overlords are all sucking up the solar energy on the beach... you'll see!

California Ballot Measures (Politics Talk Post)

NetRunner says...

I'm somewhat jealous, you had some real issues on the California ballot.

FWIW, the progressive California sample ballot is here.

They said:

1A> Yes "High Speed Rail"
2> Yes "Humane Farms"
3> Yes "Children's Hospitals"
4> No "Threatens teen safety & choice"
5> Yes "Rehab & Treatment"
6> No "Prison expansion"
7> No "Protect small solar producers and encourage solar energy production"*
8> No "Eliminates marriage rights"
9> No "More prison spending"
10> No "T. Boone bailout"
11> No "Biased redistricting"
12> Yes "Veterans home loans"

* Courage campaign actually gave no decision, but most of the other progressive/environmental groups said it was flawed and needed to be voted down.

blankfist, it seems you're almost a progressive. We just need to get you to love trains, children, farm animals, and veterans as much as you love drug addicts.

The Video Your Leaders Don't Want You To See

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'solar energy, american road journal' to 'solar energy, american road journal, hydrogen, fuel cell, heat, power' - edited by winkler1

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imstellar28 says...

In reply to this comment by bamdrew:


'Rights' and laws are guaranteed by a group of individuals, otherwise they're just ideas in one person's head. Even the right to life! Genocide, slavery, ritual human sacrifice,... even disparity in healthcare based on your wealth... these are all community decisions that place limits on the comparative 'right to life' of individuals.

So, by my thinking, individual rights are always subordinate to the community that chooses to guarantee or not guarantee specific individual rights. By extension the modified free market capitalism we have in place was a group choice, and is subordinate to any plans the group feels like putting into place in the future.

So we both agree that by definition rights must involve two people, or a "community". So a few questions to help me understand your viewpoint better
1. What process do individuals use enter into certain communities
2. Can you define the fundamental "community right" which is analogous to the fundamental "individual right" that I provided. So far I have inferred this to be "that everyone must do what is in the interest of the majority" but I am not sure if that is correct.

There are different markets that a group can choose to operate under, including the polar opposite of a 'free market', where leaders make all trade and barter decision for the community. Now, the point I'm making is that we have a modified form of the free market concept precisely because communities, especially enormous ones, in guaranteeing rights and laws will always run into situations where guaranteeing those rights and laws requires not only doling out punishment but developing and encouraging activities in the community's interest. That last sentence may again be a point where you disagree, which is fine, but recognize I'm referring to problems that not only effect the individual, but the group of individuals forming the community... health, education, defense, etc..


It sounds that like me, you do not want the polar opposite of what I am providing--i.e. dictatorship. Rather, you want a sort of "compromise" aka something in the middle.
3. What services or benefits are available in a mixed system that are not available in a free market?
4. If a dictatorship is bad, why would moving in the opposite direction be undesirable?


I'm not sure I follow you; my interpretation of what you disliked in the first place was Bill Clinton wanting to spend our community money to selectively subsidize some private companies but not others, and develop laws that would make it harder for some companies to operate. So now I'm lost as to where you didn't like the original clip.

I do not agree that one person (even the government) has the right to initiate force on another, and I believe Bill Clinton, as he proposed it in the video, would be initiating force on another. He is funding his incentives from the taxpayer--that is, he is removing their choice to on whether to fund solar energy. Here is an example: A worker has a family of three and can barely make ends meet. His entire livelihood depends on his job at a local oil rig. It would be bad enough that he will eventually lose his job when the oil rig shuts down in competition from a solar manufacturer--but to make matters worse the government is going to force him to invest, in effect, to increasing the likelihood of him losing his job.

Its fine that many people would like to invest in the solar industry, and its fine that the solar industry, through the the market, drives other companies out of business- However, I cannot endorse forcing people to invest in an industry that they would otherwise not invest in.

Friedman: US Energy Policy is Broken

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Breakthrough in storing Solar Energy

maatc says...

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^Xax:
Great! Now where can I buy one?

They have people that do the installs right now for everything but the fuel cell stuff...and that just needs electricity and a tie in to setup, something that can, in theroy, be installed after the fact. They run anywhere from 10k to 40k depending on how much juice you need and what area you live in. The more intence your solar radiation, the less cells you need. Most can be written as tax right offs untill some time which I can't remember. Also, there are loan programs out there for people wishing to go green from the good ol US government. I would still wait awhile before getting a set installed though, still a couple of maturaty levels the tech needs to hit for my taste.


I am waiting for the 3G Version...

Breakthrough in storing Solar Energy

GeeSussFreeK says...

>> ^Xax:
Great! Now where can I buy one?


They have people that do the installs right now for everything but the fuel cell stuff...and that just needs electricity and a tie in to setup, something that can, in theroy, be installed after the fact. They run anywhere from 10k to 40k depending on how much juice you need and what area you live in. The more intence your solar radiation, the less cells you need. Most can be written as tax right offs untill some time which I can't remember. Also, there are loan programs out there for people wishing to go green from the good ol US government. I would still wait awhile before getting a set installed though, still a couple of maturaty levels the tech needs to hit for my taste.

Breakthrough in storing Solar Energy

GeeSussFreeK says...

>> ^dgandhi:
So, what is the hard data, how efficient is this process? IIRC hydrolysis has a theoretical upper bound of efficiency in the low 70% range, and most production systems don't even hit 50%, how much better is this process?
Does the 5-20% gain ( which is a 10-40% increase in stored energy per input, not too shabby) kick the current generation of residential PV system over the hump to 5 year 100% ROI?
Once a residential PV system drops below 5 years to recoup, we are going to see some major fur fly as the centralized utilities fight tooth and nail to keep a strangle hold on the energy market. Hopefully we get there by better, cheaper tech, instead of scarcer, more expensive oil.


But the main problem is the hydrogen. You have to expend a good deal of energy to break the covalent bonds of water to get at hydrogen. So where you may have an effective means to gather hydrogen at a very high rate of energy effectiveness, but that energy does still have to come from somewhere, and solar still isn't up to snuff on the durability side. I would imagine that most people will never make back the money thay invested in the curret generation of technology, the cost of a total cell failure is pretty substatial as it has to be completely replaced. And the most dishearting thing is that I haven't really heard much about new technologies that are ready for mass production any time soon

So where I still think solar is the future...its still a slightly distant one. Without a better way to generate multilayerd perfectly aligned silicon atoms the next gen of solar pannels isn't coming. I have hope that nano transister research will end up spilling over into solar reasearch. Right now, micro processors are having the same problem that solar pannels are having...atoms don't always go exactly where you want them to go; and worse, you don't know why they don't do what you want them to, and ever more worse, we don't know how to get them to do so. We need a revolution in micro manufacturing before the REAL solar revolution begins...and on that day, bye bye dino doo doo.

Breakthrough in storing Solar Energy

"1.21 GIGAWATTS?!?!?!?"

zor says...

>> ^Payback:
It's disgusting when 76.5% of the world's people live without any electricity at all.


I think it's disgusting I don't have a time traveling DeLorean. I don't pity people who don't have electricity or think I'm disgusting for having it. In fact, some people in the US live 'off the grid' and they like it just fine. Mother Jones magazine has lots of good articles about it and they are good to read. What we're trying to do is educate people who live in areas that don't have electricity about ways to get clean water, use basic solar energy and do other things. They live comfortably.



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