My garden is powered by a 150 watts high pressure sodium light gutted from a Security light. It works very well, last I heard of Led technology was from years ago, its very nice to see it going into such high production and applications. I have four month old big herb plants ready for outside, I had to take down my 3 foot brandywine tomato plant because it was just to damn big !

Indoor garden = FTW !

found a paper published in a neurological journal about fluoride. I can't read the damn thing though.
http://www.mims.com/Page.aspx?menuid=pubmeddetail&pmid=medline10n0113%5C4339152.xml&h=sodium+fluoride
titled

"Effect of sodium fluoride on the uptake of serotonin by human thrombocytes and on the aggregation of human thrombocytes.
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>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

I love it when you talk about bonding, fap fap fap.
>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^deathcow:
> If you take the recommended daily dose, it puts you at about 1.6mgs of fluoride a day.
Fluorine bound into Fluoxetine is a lot different than fluorine bound into fluoride. You can eat all the salt you want but eating elemental chlorine and elemental sodium would kill you and light you on fire. Groaningly bad that he would equate drinking fluoride to being the same as eating Fluoxetine.

Yea, people seem to think of chemistry like cooking, where a molecule is just a loose collection of ingredients.

When people talk about the health risks of "fluoride" they're usually talking about Sodium Fluoride, which is an ionic compound and splits into Na+ and F- when dissolved in water (the negatively charged fluorine ion is called "fluoride").
Excessive amounts of fluoride (well above what is generally in tap water) can lead to severe health problems. Perhaps lower amounts cause problems too, but the evidence is less clear.
Prozac contains three covalently bonded fluorine atoms which do not split off when being metabolized. Prozac has it's own health impacts, but not because it produces fluoride ions.



Sorry for leaving you in an excited state... I understand it raises the potential for sudden discharge. ;-)

I love it when you talk about bonding, fap fap fap.

>> ^Psychologic:

>> ^deathcow:
> If you take the recommended daily dose, it puts you at about 1.6mgs of fluoride a day.
Fluorine bound into Fluoxetine is a lot different than fluorine bound into fluoride. You can eat all the salt you want but eating elemental chlorine and elemental sodium would kill you and light you on fire. Groaningly bad that he would equate drinking fluoride to being the same as eating Fluoxetine.

Yea, people seem to think of chemistry like cooking, where a molecule is just a loose collection of ingredients.

When people talk about the health risks of "fluoride" they're usually talking about Sodium Fluoride, which is an ionic compound and splits into Na+ and F- when dissolved in water (the negatively charged fluorine ion is called "fluoride").
Excessive amounts of fluoride (well above what is generally in tap water) can lead to severe health problems. Perhaps lower amounts cause problems too, but the evidence is less clear.
Prozac contains three covalently bonded fluorine atoms which do not split off when being metabolized. Prozac has it's own health impacts, but not because it produces fluoride ions.

>> ^deathcow:

> If you take the recommended daily dose, it puts you at about 1.6mgs of fluoride a day.
Fluorine bound into Fluoxetine is a lot different than fluorine bound into fluoride. You can eat all the salt you want but eating elemental chlorine and elemental sodium would kill you and light you on fire. Groaningly bad that he would equate drinking fluoride to being the same as eating Fluoxetine.


Yea, people seem to think of chemistry like cooking, where a molecule is just a loose collection of ingredients.


When people talk about the health risks of "fluoride" they're usually talking about Sodium Fluoride, which is an ionic compound and splits into Na+ and F- when dissolved in water (the negatively charged fluorine ion is called "fluoride").

Excessive amounts of fluoride (well above what is generally in tap water) can lead to severe health problems. Perhaps lower amounts cause problems too, but the evidence is less clear.

Prozac contains three covalently bonded fluorine atoms which do not split off when being metabolized. Prozac has it's own health impacts, but not because it produces fluoride ions.

> If you take the recommended daily dose, it puts you at about 1.6mgs of fluoride a day.

Fluorine bound into Fluoxetine is a lot different than fluorine bound into fluoride. You can eat all the salt you want but eating elemental chlorine and elemental sodium would kill you and light you on fire. Groaningly bad that he would equate drinking fluoride to being the same as eating Fluoxetine.

>> ^gargoyle:

Fluoridation is also suspected of being a contributing cause to hypothyroidism. Can't find anything rigorous on this yet. Still looking.


It is hard with all the conflicting and conflated data and opinions out there to accurately gauge it. I am not a chemist either, but I know it makes my soil toxic to plants over time. I believe the chemical classification for Sodium Fluoride is a Toxic, Irritant, but for some reason the CDC lists it an an inert...which is completely false. People who do organic farming are really critical with the CDC on this point because Sodium Fluoride is anything but inert and violates the organic farmers main goal; of removing all toxic elements from food production. With fluoride in toothpaste, I really don't see a purpose for water fluoridation anymore. Like someone mentioned earlier, why ingest something that is supposed to be a topical application. Now that toothpastes all come with it, that topical nature is realized and drinking water fluoridation should fall away. Sodium Fluoride has electrolytes, what plants crave!

The only thing that's wrong, but right in "more healthy" aspect is the Pepsi (unless that's the ONLY way you get your mass water). The "eight/six/whatever glasses of water" a day is bunk science. Water is in almost everything you could eat or drink. Otherwise a microwave would be useless. Pepsi is mostly water, but the high-fructose corn syrup is the horrific part and the sodium to a lesser extent.

I'd much rather buy Kool-Aid or Tang as it's easier for the body to digest and you can decide the concentration level.

The one thing I hate about soft-drinks is that I like to have more water and less syrup--it becomes sickening at normal levels. Which is why I think 7-11, Maverick, Holiday, or wherever else you go tastes better from the fountain as it's usually toned down syrup wise.)

Everything else he brings up is dead on. Anyway, back too teh funny!

>> ^eventualentropy:

I know that hyperbole is sometimes necessary in comedy, but he is seriously exaggerating. McDonald's burgers aren't that bad for you (besides maybe a bit high in sodium). It's also not a giant conspiracy to get us all to be mindless consumers but I guess that much is obvious.


Sorry but you're a retard, i hate to be negative to people on the sift, in fact I think this is my first time, but read the fucking ingredients list before you make comments like this - McDonalds is trash, just like the other fast food joints he mentions. Yes I know it's easy to read what you think is the ingredients list and think that's all you're getting, but go to their actual website, dig around until you find the real ingredients list, there are typically 3-6 ingredients per 'ingredient' and it's mostly all going to do you damage.

Good vid, upvote.

I know that hyperbole is sometimes necessary in comedy, but he is seriously exaggerating. McDonald's burgers aren't that bad for you (besides maybe a bit high in sodium). It's also not a giant conspiracy to get us all to be mindless consumers but I guess that much is obvious.

>> ^kronosposeidon:

I found out about Matthew Good from MuchMusic (amazingly our local cable company had a Canadian channel in 1997.) I tried to order the Underdogs CD from Amazon.com and other online outlets in America, but none had it at the time so I finally had to order it from a retailer in the great white north. I believe that is the only parcel I have ever gotten from Canada. Most of my imports come from Sweden.


I found out about them from MM as well, Rick campanelli and racheal.. Master T, Suk yin or whatnot, It was from the Canadian music channel my mind started to twist and churn into a state where this music appealed to me. It REALLY meant a lot to me, this song especially ( I tear now I think about it ) I went for a walk with my Mega earphones and cd player back in the day while really high on mushrooms, beautiful experience which I never forget the blinding apocalypse which are high pressure sodium street lights.

I pretty well HAVE owned every , well I can not state that, I indeed have owned every output of the Matthew good man mind.

It didn't "melt" the cans... that implies a state change, not a chemical reaction.

Anyway, I recently tried something similar with a penny and 12M HCl. There was some reaction with the copper plating (which surprised me), but it vigorously attacked the zinc core leaving a soft hollow shell.


Edit: Also, I'm pretty sure the reaction in the video produces Aluminum Hydroxide, not Sodium Aluminate.

So I tried this at work today. Used 300 - 400 mL of Sodium Hydroxide. After an hour, the most I got out of it was a little bit of bubbling. Either the molarity of their solution was a lot higher, or this was photoshopped!

Tags for this video have been changed from 'periodic videos sodium hydroxide hydrochloric coke' to 'periodic videos, sodium hydroxide, hydrochloric, coke' - edited by eric3579

>> ^Fantomas:

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
Actually, while the sodium and caffeine in cola and similar beverages may have a (very, very) slight diurectic effect, you still retain more water from the beverage than the caffeine takes from your system. The same is true even of beer, though it's even more difficult to get people to believe that.

Sodium is not a diuretic, quite the opposite, it makes your body retain water. The added sodium in your bloodstream is counteracted by water flowing into it from your cells, your cells are then water deficient and send messages to your brain: "Drink Water!".


Ok ok, not diuretic. But you still take in more water than the sodium makes you lose. The sodium draws water form your cells, I'll grant you - but you've just had a drink, so as long as you've taken in more water than the sodium leeches from your cells you're fine.