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Free Bird by Lynyrd Skynyrd LIVE

Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man

TISM - (He'll Never Be An) Ol' Man River

8383 says...

I'm on the drug, I'm on the drug
I'm on the drug that killed River Phoenix

I saw his body thrashing 'round
I saw his pulse rate going down
I saw him in compulsive throws
I said "I'll have one of those"

Hilary had, Hilary had
Hilary had it in his veins

Hilary had Everest in his veins
Armstrong did moon, was not the same
Heroes explore to give us hope
River pushed back the envelope

Drank the slab, drank the slab
Drank the slab that Bon Scott drunk

I drank the slab that Bon Scott drunk
I injected some of Hendrix's junk
I booked a seat on Lynyrd Skynyrd's plane
Mama Cass' sandwich? I ate the same

Now I'm bored, now I'm bored
Now I'm bored and there's no stoppin'

Now I'm bored and there's no stoppin'
I need another celeb to fill a coffin
Where will I get my next drug action?
Odds on it'll be Michael Jackson

I'm on the drug that killed River Phoenix
I'm on the drug

Yael Naim New Soul Song - same song from Apple Mac Air Ad

10385 says...

That's an interesting point. I don't think there's any correlation, however, between artistic accomplishment and "selling out;" the latter does not necessarily impede the former, nor does corporate success DEFINE artistic accomplishment. I certainly don't believe one can measure artistic accomplishment by the number of commercials your song is in, or how much playtime your song gets on all the radio stations. But again, I would argue that those things are side notes and perhaps useful tools towards achieving your own intrinsic accomplishments.

I look at it this way: an artist, the true, down-to-earth, sincere artist, is going to create art no matter what. The art, whether highbrow or lowbrow, gets made either way, and of course it will be judged whether the artist seeks approval or not. I think it's a problem when the artist seeks only the approval of others: "critical success" and financial success. You can say plenty of nasty things about that person, but the truth of it is they have some degree of talent and want to make money with it- that's fair. It's not ideal and it ain't the Beatles, but it's fair. Now... the "true" artist is ever-changing, ever-improving, and most importantly, ever-creating, no matter how she is judged. The twist is that it costs a lot of money to be any kind of artist, and even on a low budget, that artist is going to need money, even if only as a means to create more art. Thus, by allowing a song to be used in a big commercial (in this case for a corporation whose public image isn't too bad) she achieves that means. It doesn't mean her creation is meaningless, and it certainly doesn't mean that her future work will be either.

If you define "selling out" as "selling your art," then everyone does that. If you define "selling out" as "selling someone rights to use your music," then Yael here is clearly selling out. But none of these meanings seem at all "bad" to me. If I were to define "selling out," I'd probably go with "catering your creations to fit someone else's needs." Even that, though, doesn't seem all that bad. A fine artist who works commissions is essentially doing just that. Any hired illustrator is at least partially doing that. Any film composer or ad agency, same deal. Any of these people could be "selling out" just so they can fund the art that they WANT to create. Moreover, in the process of "selling out" they may find fulfillment in the work they are doing. In this particular case, Yael isn't even doing that; she's merely selling rights to use her song, presumably created as her own song and not a jingle, in a commercial.

On a side note, the commercial marketplace is becoming more and more viable a venue for music artists, I think. High-end ad firms have people that seek out, scout, if you will, the newest and freshest sounds. Obviously they are paid to do so for the success of the commercial and corporation, but that doesn't change what they aim to do. For a while, I kept my thumb on the pulse of popular TV like Buffy and the OC, which miraculously discovered piles of unknown(to me) bands. To relate to visual art (which I guess is the world I'm comfortable with), I'd liken being asked to be on the OC or an Apple ad to being asked to display in a commercial gallery with dozens of artists whose work you know and like. In this world, I think those who take on these jobs either learn to enjoy them, or simply use them to feed the efforts they DO enjoy.

Phew. Finally, upvote for the Lynyrd Skynyrd ref.

Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama

snoozedoctor says...

Silver,
No they couldn't get away with that now. I grew up in the south. My high school sports teams were called the "fighting rebels." We changed that to the "fighting trojans" in 1973. We all admired Skynyrd's guts though. They were some tough ol' boys.

New Collective In Town (Sift Talk Post)

Woland says...

Does southern country-rock (Allman Bros. / Skynyrd / Little Feat / Uncle Tupelo) fit? If so, hook me up with an invite!

And yes, I am aware of the difference between West and South, smart-ass types.

gorillaman (Member Profile)

The New Definition of Awesome: Country + Hip-Hop + Rock

The New Definition of Awesome: Country + Hip-Hop + Rock

Lynyrd Skynyrd: Sweet Home Alabama

ant (Member Profile)

Shinedown - "Simple Man" (Lynyrd Skynyrd Cover)



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