>> ^deathcow:
> the Dag household has been TVless for going on 11 years.
TV isn't all shit you know...



So for all ya folks who took some sort of offense at the idea that I believe folks here are morons??? Gert real. Only a few of you are indulging that outer moron screaming to go back in. As I have maintained here on the site for some time, after having to stomach the ceaseless editorializing about what should be common-sense moral and ethical questions, the fine-points of God VS No God according to fucking GARP, and the attention to political bullshit rhetoric paid when the proper AND reasonable human response to the condition of the same in the world is to SHUT IT THE FUCK OFF, AND THROW ALL THOSE SICK MOTHERFUCKERS OUT, TELEVISION, and the propaganda and newspeak that disguises itself as reality thereon, is a major reason this place has become a clearing house for the mentally ill, sexually frustrated, and the "who wants to see my douchebag" crowd. The latter I would venture to guess, were not raised on the programming coming out of the cathode ray shitstain exclusively( your retarded parents who raised you were), but on a combo-platter of Internet foolishness, Telly, videogames, porn, and a cadre of dysfunctional fuck-ups, lovingly referred to as, "Parents." Sorry, just calling it the way any reasonable soul should see it-ALL COMPLETE DIVERSIONS DESIGNED TO ROB HUMANS OF LIFE....and the freedom to fuck anything they want.

Society is in flux, ever changing, and becoming more non-linear with each passing second. The CHALLENGE we all face as humans being, with a view to self-conscious awareness, is to see through the muck created by living in a world where some men struggle to maintain dominance over others while others simply wish to be, is to rise above the fucking illusion and embrace the essence of the shit, prior to having to check out of the place. Always has been, always will be.

GeoPolitics is the illusion created by those first types of fucking assholes, the fucks who would tell me, of all people, what they should and shouldn't, can't and can do. Fuck You, I can decide that for myself, and if I had a clan, or a tribe, for about 50 others.... Fuck it, make it a hundred...we need people that like to dig holes and plant stuff. Religion? Religions are a good thing.They give us all something to aspire to, whatever the fuck that may be. Including Scientology and born-again Christains. Clever bunch of folks dreamed that shit up, more power to em. Greed and power got the best of most of em, and they turned douchebag real quick....that's the nature of mankind struggling to admit that they don't want to fuck themselves in their own ass. Most fail miserably and DON'T end up fucking that tender rusty sheriff's badge a few times.

Now to the douchebags who still don't have a clue, after all my work here to convince them otherwise....GET A FUCKING LIFE ALREADY! Stop trying to figure out why I say and do what I do here to stir up shit, and look in a fucking mirror, when the assumptions and accusations begin to fly-You are me and I am you...end a-fucking story.

Namaste, peace, the Virgin Mary wants to skull fuck you all while L. Ron watches, and good night....And THAT'S, the end of the news. we now return you to your regularly programmed schedule.

The truth is, I'm from another planet. We are educating ourselves by observing this "sift".

From what we can tell, you are a humorous, thoughtful, sexually frustrated, well-educated, curious, cruel people obsessed with felines and mammary glands.

That's the key, isn't it? This so-called "need". If you don't find the love of your life and a committed relationship, is porn your only option? I don't really see what need it's fulfilling. Indeed, it seems more like an exacerbation of the problem. It is neither emotionally nor sexually satisfying. I'll be honest and say that I can't relate. To me it seems logical (but then again, I'm a girl) that if you can't get laid, you avoid sexual arousal instead of actively seeking it out. Porn is not just the release of sexual tension, it is the augmentation of it. Or so I should think? Is the need for sex such that men need to both arouse and release in order to feel fulfilled? Or could they release sexual frustration only when it happens on its own? I have a hard time believing that men are sex machines that just can't function without regular porn use. And if they are, is it a learned behavior? Not that we aren't meant to have and desire sex, because we are. But porn itself is so perverse and psychologically damaging (because of the lies and the degradation it thrives on) that I cannot believe nor accept that men are wired to need it. What did single people do before prostitutes and pornography? I'm guessing that they lived in a world where sex was something that you do with a partner, and something that you hold in cold storage as much as you possible until it's needed.

I don't think sex is bad. Sex is great and good. I just don't think that anyone truly needs to participate in sexual perversion (the porn industry) to be healthy, happy, and (reasonably) satisfied.

A man's view will always differ from a woman's on this topic.

I have male friends that have no use for Porn and can't be bothered. I have female friends that love porn (books, magazines or video) and love it as a natural progression to their tastes.

It is truly a personal thing. And I think the industry satisfies a huge sexually frustrated population out there. (Male and Female). I'm sure it eliminates allot of sex crimes. Sexually frustrated people need to relieve their tension. Not everyone has a partner in life. Face the Fact!

On the same token, Porn can also be a marriage/relationship breaker in the same way "World of Warcraft" ruins relationships. It provides an escape in an already troubled relationship. When this happens, the true problems within the relationship never get resolved and things begin to crumble.

I'm sorry but I have to take the side of "both sides" here.
1). The porn industry is demeaning to women. Checks and balances will never filter out the scum. Some companies value their “actors” and treat them professionally. Some actors are self employed and run their own websites. Pornography is a multi-million dollar a year industry and where there is that much money, there will always be filth around the edges. Porn can be offensive and disgusting when people are taken advantage of and encouraged or forced to do something that is out of their comfort zone or when things are drastically out of it’s original intent or context.

2). Sex itself is neither filthy nor ugly. When it is between two consulting adults, that’s their business whether they want to be filmed or not. Some people just seem to like filming themselves (Male and female). I personaly, would never film myself or someone else but that is just me. Porn can be sexy when both sides are enjoying it. To even imply that sex is wrong in any form is based on literature originating from Chritianity. Sexual Desire was powerful and could not be controlled by the church and was therefore deemed against God’s will.


“Obedient Christians as sexually active children of God’s will refrain even from the irrational appetite, because otherwise they are heinous fornicators.”
The making of fornication By Kathy L. Gaca
The incubus was sexual desire made real and labelled a demon before god and people were put to death by the church for having sexual thoughts.

I could go on, but like any argument like this it is not “This” is right and “That” is wrong!
There is not light without darkness and after darkness there shall always be light. Ying Yang!

I chose selections from an article about male porn habit that addresses the subject for your reading pleasure. I have a few problems with the article. It seems to assume that only lonely and hurting people use porn, and that isn't true. Still, it makes some good points:

"How addictive is pornography?

‘I'm frightened of real sex, which is unscripted and unpredictable so I engage in pornography, which is totally under my control. But it brings intense disappointment because it is not what I'm really searching for. It's rather like a hungry person standing outside the window of a restaurant, thinking that they're going to get fed.’ That’s how one man described his porn addiction to Edward Marriott...

...Like many men, I first saw pornography during puberty. At boarding school...long before my first sexual relationship, porn was my sex education....Being away from home, my friends and I longed for love, closeness, acceptance. The women over whom we masturbated - surrogate mothers, if you like - seemed to be offering this but, of course, were never going to provide it. The untruths it taught me on top of this disappointment - that women are always available, that sex is about what a man can do to a woman - I am only now succeeding in unlearning.

...'Just like drugs, pornography provides a quick fix, a masturbatory universe people can get stuck in. This can result in their not being able to involve anyone else.’

...Men, as much as women, hunger for intimacy. For many males, locked into a life in which self-esteem has grown intrinsically entwined with performance, sex assumes a freight of demands and needs...

...It is into this troubled scenario that porn finds easy access. For in pornography, unlike in real life, there is no criticism, real or imagined, of male performance...

...Women in porn are always, in the words of the average internet site, ‘hot and ready’, eager to please...

...Men, say psychologists, also feel threatened by the ‘emotional power’ they perceive women wielding over them...they are at the same time painfully aware that their only salvation from isolation comes in being sexually acceptable to women. This sense of neediness can provoke intense anger that, all too often, finds expression in porn...

...The porn industry, of course, dismisses such talk, yet occasionally comes a glimmer of authenticity. Bill Margold, left, one of the industry's longest-serving film performers, was interviewed in 1991 by psychoanalyst Robert Stoller for his book Porn: Myths For The Twentieth Century. Margold admitted: ‘My whole reason for being in this industry is to satisfy the desire of the men in the world who basically don't care much for women and want to see the men in my industry getting even with the women they couldn't have when they were growing up. So we come on a woman's face or brutalise her sexually: we're getting even for lost dreams.'...

...As well as ‘eroticising male supremacy’, in the words of anti-porn campaigner John Stoltenberg, pornography also attempts to assuage other male fears, in particular that of erection failure. Pornography answers men's fetishistic need for visual proof of phallic potency...

...Pornography, in other words, is a lie. It peddles falsehoods about men, women and relationships. It seduces vulnerable, lonely men with the promise of intimacy, and delivers only a transitory fix. Increasingly, though, men are starting to be open about the effect of pornography. David McLeod, a marketing executive, explains the cycle: ‘I'm drawn to porn when I'm lonely, particularly when I'm single and sexually frustrated. But I can easily get disgusted with myself. After watching a video two or three times, I'll throw it away and vow never to watch another again. But my resolve never lasts very long.’

Like many men, McLeod is torn. Quick to claim that porn has ‘no harmful effects’, he is also happy to acknowledge the contradictory fact that it is ‘deadening’.

Extended exposure to pornography can have a whole raft of effects.
By the time Nick Samuels had reached his mid-20s, it was altering his view of what he wanted from a sexual relationship. ‘I used to watch porn with one of my girlfriends, and I started to want to try things I'd seen in the films.’ Married for 15 years, he admits he has carried the same sexual expectations into the marital bedroom. ‘There's been real friction over this: my wife simply isn't that kind of person. And it's only now, after all these years, that I'm beginning to move on from it. Porn is like alcoholism: it clings to you like a leech.’

...Even when in a loving sexual relationship, men who have used porn say that, all too often, they see their partner through a kind of ‘pornographic filter’. This effect is summed up by US sociologist Harry Brod, in LynneSegal's essay Sweet Sorrows, Painful Pleasures: ‘There have been too many times when I have guiltily resorted to impersonal fantasy because the genuine love I felt for a woman wasn't enough to convert feelings into performance. And in those sorry, secret moments, I have resented deeply my lifelong indoctrination into (pornography).’...

...Running through all pornography use, according to David Morgan, is the desire for control...

...The user of pornography is also psychologically on the run.
Welldon says: ‘people who use pornography feel dead inside, and they are trying to avoid being aware of that pain. There is a sense of liberation, which is temporary: that's why pornography is so repetitive - you have to go back again and again.’...

...For John-Paul Day, an Edinburgh architect, the experience of being a small boy with a dying mother drove him to seek solace in masturbation. He says he has been ‘addicted’ to pornography his entire adult life. He has attended meetings of Sex Addicts Anonymous for 12 years...

...Like drugs and drink, pornography - as Day has realised - is an addictive substance. Porn actor Kelly Cooke says this applies on either side of the camera: ‘It got to the point where I considered having sex the way most people consider getting a hamburger. But when you try to give it up, you realise how addictive it is, both for consumers and performers. It's a class A drug, and it's hell coming off it.’

The cycle of addiction leads one way: towards ever harder material...

Morgan believes ‘all pornography ends up with S&M’.
The myth about porn, as a witness told the 1983 Minneapolis city council public hearings on it, is that ‘it frees the libido and gives men an outlet for sexual expression. This is truly a myth. I have found pornography not only does not liberate men, but on the contrary is a source of bondage. Men masturbate to pornography only to become addicted to the fantasy.'..."

Read the whole article here: http://www.malehealth.co.uk/userpage1.cfm?item_id=2302

Other articles on the sibject of porn "addiction":

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2004/11/65772

http://men.webmd.com/guide/is-pornography-addictive

After watching the clip I had to watch the whole documentary and it is the second I've seen on the subject. While I understand the need for extremely introverted and handicapped people to release their sexual frustration. I believe this sex doll buying behavior as mostly wrong. Any extended delusion that does not end at some point is wrong. Books, movies, games all end at some point and we return to reality (most of us). Even when we sexually fantasize and play with ourselves we know its not real. But when middle aged men start talking about the inanimate doll's personality and facial expressions (in the documentary), this is disturbing on an entirely new level. I don't think this will ever become a social norm, nor should it be.

♫
when you cry to yourself, some people call you queer
but when you see this message, you can tell that I'm sincere
The reason you feel down is really quite simplistic
you shouldn't feel that way too much, it's really masochistic

your're emooOOOoo
you're contemplating suicide
but you don't got the guts to try
emooooOOOooo
keep asking yourself why, why, why
your answer's always sigh, sigh, sigh

what's really going on is a tricky situation
and most of it is probably sexual frustration
what comes to mind in my current contemplation
is you might make a pass at that guy down at the station

cause you're emoooOOOoooo♪
(...)

I'll finish it sometime when I'm not so tired..

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>> ^MINK:
farhad i tried to read what you wrote but it was all just bla bla bla
can you reduce it to a three word slogan that i can feel in my gut?


Hamas: sexual frustration

This may sound over the top, but there needs to be less war, less burqas and hajibs, less gender segregated buses and synagogues in Israel and a whole lot more fucking all around.

At the heart of mideast violence is sexual repression and frustration.

From Myspace
http://www.myspace.com/sukiaband
"[Sukia was] nominated for "Best New Dance Band of 1998" for the Gary Super Macho video at the Billboard magazine music video awards against two 'N Sync videos. The infamous "Greek Cut" of the Gary video was played before the attendees. 'N-Stync won."

The video is about "sexual frustration".

One more thing:

I really appreciate your kindness and understanding, but I have to admit that this part of the comment makes me so upset I don't even know where to begin. Ladydeath, don't read this if you don't want the drama. I gave you fair warning. You don't have to read it.

It makes me feel almost unbearably frustrated that something that is so influential in sex crime is so socially accepted that people don't even see it as a cause. Okay, I'm not talking about the video, I'm talking about porn now. Porn distorts our view of sex. Porn separates sex from love and emotion. Porn makes people into objects and into means to an end. True story: An innocent little boy exposed to porn does evil things to little girls and it takes him years to overcome it, but he does overcome it because he is a good person. PORN did that! P-O-R-N. It wasn't that the little boy was inherently evil or had some kind of sexual disorder. He was exposed to a sick and twisted and distorted exploitation of the human body and of the act of intercourse.

We wonder "Why-oh-why is child molestation increasing? Oh what can we do about it? Oh, no, porn couldn't make any difference, because I view porn! There's no way that there is anything bad about it! I get sexual release! If anything else, it KEEPS them from doing bad things!" and on and on and on. Porn DOES NOT decrease the need for sexual release, it increases it. The more you look at porn, the more often you want to, the more interesting you want it to be, and some people take it too far. Just because you don' doesn't mean that it isn't a disgusting an unnatural thing. Do you think sex crimes develop because a person's sexuality was kept under good regulation? Repression, as some of you call it. And don't give me the Catholic priest argument. The vast majority of the world's sex predators are not Catholic priests, and the vast majority of Catholic priests are not sex predators. I swear, all the people who wanted to justify unbridled sexual release just loved that whole scandal. Do you think that the guy who, because of his religion or whatever the cause may be, has never looked at porn and who is going to wait until marriage to have sex is going to one day go out and rape a kid because his sexuality has been repressed? No, he's not. In fact, that guy isn't even sexually frustrated. He's pretty darn happy, because his control is his own choice. I know many guys like that. I'll tell you the guy who is sexually frustrated. He's the guy that sits at home and jacks off all day to porn. THAT guy is frustrated.

You're going to say that porn is not the cause of sex crime. Well, maybe it isn't. But it certainly helps. Porn may be a correlational feature, but it is not insignificant. It does not teach control of inappropriate sexual tendencies, it perpetuates and increases inappropriate sexual tendencies.

I beleive in this so much that I can't even respond coherently. I feel like I can't even begin to make you understand how wrong you are. It's like trying to explain to a blind person what red looks like.

I know what your arguments are going to be, but I'm sick of trying. I'm going to go do something that will actually make a difference now.

>> ^EDD:
1. Porn is in no more a reason behind sexual assaults than welsh kitties are. At best, and very seldom still, it might be an insignificant factor stimulating this kind of behaviour, however, most of the time, it does negate these desires, both in short and long-terms. Any assailant saying they were motivated by porn is obviously finding excuses; and if any psychologist is buying that crap, they need their diploma taken away from them ASAP.
2. Openness about sexuality is really the key to rehabilitation. Porn can, if anything, actually help victims of sexual abuse, even though it has to be a gradual process, but for one, it's a lot better than erotic novels. This is because of using fantasy when reading a book rather than direct visual stimuli in pornography - the former quite often has women readers picturing themselves in the stead of female protagonists and therefore being more likely to cause traumatic comparisons/flashbacks than the latter, in which one should feel a lot more disconnected from the people involved in the sexual act.

>> ^dag:
I have noticed this trend - and actually agree with Mink on this one. [gasp]
Sometimes a comment like "upvote for punching women" is intended ironically but it still sucks - because there is a little tickle of sublimated sexual frustration in the joke.


I want to punch Siftbot.

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I have noticed this trend - and actually agree with Mink on this one. [gasp]

Sometimes a comment like "upvote for punching women" is intended ironically but it still sucks - because there is a little tickle of sublimated sexual frustration in the joke.

poetry ftw.

this place used to (still does?) pride itself on having better comments than YouTube.

Well, that might be true, but the margin is narrowing rather than widening. Some threads are already on College Humour level. Humorous misogyny is not far from racist gibberish really.

What particularly worries me is the huge amount of keyboard warriors who are prepared to violently verbally assault women, and the huge amount of people who upvote their comments to the top of the page.

Perhaps this is because of / the reason behind the lack of women here, and who can blame them.

I promote parties, and I have a rule: Make a party for girls, then boys will come too, and everyone will dance together and have a good time. Make the toilets nice, the cloakroom fast, the bar staff polite, the lighting soft.

Or, make a party for boys, and someone will smash up the toilets at 2am out of sexual frustration.

Just working my way down this list...

Gorgonheap - It's hard to take cues from a man who identifies himself with an obscure muppet. Not only does Gorgonheap's character not exist, but all the other imaginary dipshits don't care about him. Freudian slips are a wonderful thing.

Blankfist - Your enthusiasm for receiving my response coupled with your sugar coated compliment at the end of your rant suggest you'd like to go farther than just virtually kiss my ass. I'll see what I can arrange on Craigslist, m'kay?

Zeph - And I couldn't be bothered to take the time to respond to you. So I won't. I'll use the saved time for something more important - Gotta scratch my balls.

Silvercord - Twat.

MLx - And your botox administrator called. She wants to know if she can reschedule for next week or if by that time your face will be rubbing so hard against the pavement you'll be undoing several thousand dollars worth of taxpayer's money.

Whoops, forgot Darkrowan. Wait a minute... nope, actually just didn't give a shit.

Kronosposeidon - Like I have to insult a guy who has the hots for the mentally challenged. Use protection though, I don't want my niece getting syphilis - might make her as stupid as you.

Zifnab - That insult was about as creative as some idiot whoring out for votes with a Yahtzee videos every week.

CaptWillard - My dickless ass? It wouldn't surprise me if you have one firmly up yours.

Joedirt - A sexually frustrated computer nerd brought further down the virginity well from a lack of knowledge on the location of female genitalia.

Choggie - I don't even know where to start... what the fuck did you write?? You're persistence in coming up with new and exciting ways to rape the English language up the ass never fails to amuse.

Fjnbk - You're the kind of guy I'd wish an ironic death on - Like getting run over by an ambulance.

my15minutes - Yea, those minutes were up a long time ago. Does anyone know THIS motherfucker??

Maatc - Certainly the only ones hitting the up arrows on any of his comments or clips are a group of egyptian spammers who mistake it as a pyramid symbol and are trying to signal him that he is a "Mummys Boy".

That lone statement can kill more braincells than Choggie's liquor cabinet.

MycroftHomlz - Given how you liked to cheer on the insults in your last roast, I'm starting to think you masturbate to them. I'm not gonna add to that...

dotdude - When he's not making pointless comments, he's drawing dots. I'll let you decide which is more valuable.

K0MMIE - At this point I'm running out of energy and things to say so you're just a dick.

Smibbo - Ooooh, wow, fart jokes. It's too hard to match that kind of wit, I've never lowered my standards to that degree before.

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Public display of insanity, or PDI, is common amoung practically-challenged, sexually frustrated anglo males.....