In america anyway, the government provides clean water,sewers, police, fire depts, schools, safe roads. etc. Corps cant do business without highways,,or healthy consumers and workers. This guy is just a complete moron..the idea that bankers and corporations will self police or that markets self adjust has been proven wrong by history over and over. Who will plow the roads? who will build the damn roads? Who would build hoover dam? who would build sewers? Who would provide disaster relief? The lunacy of this idiots arguements are self evident.

2. I'm fairly certain there was drug dealing going on in at least one of those crowds harassing the cops. If not, it would be out of character for these groups.
3. Well, you said crime on private property is no one's business but the owner...that's Bullshit, which you admit now.
Shooting a gun violates public discharge laws, sends a projectile on a random arch to impact somewhere, and creates noise violations (especially in the middle of the night like these)...or can I come to your neighbors property and start my shooting range.
4. My point exactly
5. Use of taxpayer services while shirking your duty to pay taxes is theft and treasonous.
6. once gain, business regulation didn't cause the crime problem.
7. Are you suggesting giving the public property to private industries for them to 'take over' the entire city? First, can't happen. Second, shouldn't happen. Living in Disney is terrible, oppressive, expensive, and draconian. I don't see a difference between paying taxes for services and paying 'homeowner fees' for services, except homeowner fees are usually far more expensive for fewer services and more regulation. Not the direction I think most want to go, or a place where most Oaklandites could afford.
So, you aren't anti regulation, only if a Kenyan is doing it to you? That's just dumb.
8. Yes, but those reasons are not capped and/or solely created by having a democrat in power, as you and others suggest.
Most property owners in Oakland are absentee landlords that don't inspect their property regularly, because private ownership does NOT mean better management.
I get mob justice because you keep pushing for it, it's what the Mexicans did that you keep referencing, and it's what you get with a private, unregulated, armed 'group'.
9. Send me the URL to a company that gives actual security for $35 a month that isn't simply a guy you call on the phone who then calls the police. Never heard of any such thing, and if it exists, you are paying your on-post 24/7 security guard $1 a day, I don't think they'll care so much when you get knifed in the throat for that money.

So, you don't drive, you don't US dollars, food products, electricity, mail, internet, phones, water, sewers, public property, items that are imported, items that traveled inter-state, television, or any other service provided by the feds? Impressive. So many of your fellow Americans do that it makes semse for everyone to pay for part of these things so they are available to EVERYONE. Private institutions taking over make all of these for profit, removing their usage from many if not most people.
Yes, really, many people in the bay are having trouble paying their bills and feeding themselves, it's insanely expensive there.
I don't pay much in taxes, only my fair share. That's not enough to support one indigent. If you pay enough to support Oakland by yourself, you are either Bill Gates or a liar.
Most law abiding citizens have no inclination to grab their gun and go on the streets to patrol.
This didn't seem like you ignored me, neither did the 2 other posts that followed.
Sorry, mixed up the insanity.
You always have terrible governing from any governing body, from some point of view. It's a fallacy to conclude otherwise.
If you got your 'lack of governing' you would quickly get foreign governing.
So, there is no utopian free market, just the real, regulated one you're complaining about.
I don't think most libertarians agree with you that libertarian government is anarchy. I don't.
Well, I'm confused. You've spent a bunch of time and effort trying to convince me of your points, but you claim you know it's futile to even try...so what are you doing then?
To me, good government means doing the minimum it can to do what the populace wants, with safeguards to keep one group from taking unfair advantage of another. Better safeguards could make better politicians (yes, that's regulation, of politicians).
I know very little of 'praxology' that I didn't read in Foundation. Not in my science publications that I read regularly.
The tea party took over the libertarian party, and the republican party.
I do, I vote, and I pay my taxes. I don't have these problems, or over-regulation problems where I live. WOW! It worked!

And I paid for my excessive education, I only did 2 years in public school which was daycare. You don't seem to have any information I'm looking for.
If you think a mob of only your friends and family should roam the streets armed to 'protect your interests' then you support gangs. That's exactly what they are. To get enough to regulate activities in a place like Oakland would take a HUGE mob, far more than you have friends and family I'm certain.
I might hope you DO need the police to help you (with something minor, but enough to create your 'need'), then you might realize they are not all your enemy or useless and not far worse than anarchy. It's sad to think that it would take a personal need for you to realize that, but apparently it would.
The police are not a 'foreign' army, like the red coats.

Or that the aroma is from a plant/animal/sewer you don't expect it to be from.
But who am I telling this, you know how it is, even uranium or arsenic trioxide are "natural ingredients".

So finally the US's standards have been harmonized with those of the PROC. About damn time, if you ask me. With some luck, TTIP will harmonize our standards as well, so we can all enjoy a bucket of genetically enhanced pink slime fried in sewer oil.

Soylent green doesn't sound so bad after all...

You know how in cartoons there is often a factory with a pipe spilling its waste into a river, and then the fish downstream have three eyes? Well this sort of thing does happen in China often. If you ate sewer oil from a normal city in the US it probably wouldn't kill you but in China? Holy crap.

Somebody should edit in a flushing noise when those trees go down, just don't tell the guys in the sewer department as flushing q-tips leads to big problems.

Connoisseur of the sewer... fantastic. I raise my glass to you, my friend.


pfffttt

Marriage only involves one girl? Wait... seriously? I did NOT realize that.

Well, I guess it's time to unpropose, because I am definitely going to have sex with the queen.

I mean, she's NOT jealous, right? Riiiiight? And Snow White and that blond bimbo are DEFINITELY not jealous. Damn dude, and they're all hanging out at Mickey's house? I bet you Mickey and Minnie invites the queen over to show her how not jealous they ALL are.

He knows what's up. Freaking sewer rat. I dig his style -- and his nose is Walt Disney's penis. True story.

My problem with movie guns is the "hand cannon" sound. Like in all the Dirty Harry movies. Every pistol shot seems to sound like a 50cal Barrett sniper rifle in a sewer pipe.

As cool sounding as it is wrong.

Maybe a little damp, but I'm just in Winnipeg - we had a tiny bit of flash flooding where the storm sewers couldn't handle the sudden downpour of an ocean from the sky - but all is well otherwise!

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Add "baseball sewer" to the list of jobs I do not want.

Geez, you'd think they'd have better cable management up there. Accidentally hook one of those with your foot and you're either barrel-rolling at 20,000mph or you just disengaged the sewer retainment system.

Radical DEMOCRACY Adjustment For Fascism, NOW!

Democracy only really works when all parties have an equal say AND, adjustments are made accordingly for the benefit of all, right?? Well....When elected officials (United States version of concept) neglect or otherwise usurp through whatever means the ability of the stated so-defined system to function as envisioned, what then does one at the bottom of the societal food chain do?

America ain't no democracy, there has never been one anyhoo, nor can there ever be. We're something different here in the U.S. of the "now", and Amy, (I love ya honey please try some flattering threads and maybe eat more, yer on camera a whole fuck of a lot!) what Americans from anywhere have in America, changes constantly to the detriment of stagnation, de-evolution, or assholedouchbagcunts running the whole planet into the sewer.

Now, back to what I mentioned earlier in this rant as to what to do when the "the ability of the stated so-defined system to function as envisioned"...

One must create, outside of the realm of what they are programmed with...(a large piece of quality paper is included with the design instructions that came with this clusterfuck and's still quite legible and straight-forward in tone), and adjust the fuck out that system in a sane, fair humane, disorderly fashion that works for the MAJORITY of peeps,and this process must be maintained constantly....to keep it from becomming this bullshit again and again and again in one form or another.

Then move forward from there??

How to fix that which everyone seems to ignore as broken, but refuses to do much immediately about??
Who the fuck knows, but the guy or gal or imminent threat from oncoming space debris that provides a suitable answer that sticks for longer than a few thousand years,may get some attention-My bet would not be a politician-only-type.

As a species we're fucked-fucked if nanobots can't help us

Hint: Votes don't count, help, or get you free food, power, internet, etc.

(We could have all had this and more already y'know, if assholes weren't left free to run free and fuck and make more douchebag children of the same ilk.....This is why we should all have the same pointy-stick access to defend ourselves maybe???

A harmless prank gift, but what they don't realize is those cockroaches are going to all crawl down into the sewer and interbreed with the California cockroaches and become giant mutant cockroaches with lasers for eyes!

Harmless prank = Armageddon!

Yeah, sometimes those trucks are used to drain portable toilets, sewer lines and such. I hope that it was filled with water that day.