Would the absence of guns have prevented this murder? Maybe, maybe not. The killer could have used a knife, a hammer, a lead pipe, a screw driver, a frying pan or any other potentially lethal object instead. Granted, it would have been harder, but considering that the majority of violent crimes are committed with melee weapons, it's not improbable.

The issue here is what lead to the killing and how such incidents can be avoided in the future. Banning guns isn't going to suddenly rid the world of paranoia, racism, PTSD, senility, irresponsibility, psychosis, poverty, desperation, ignorance or any of the multitude of human conditions. People who want to hurt other people will always do so unless you address the root of that desire.

As an aside, there is a practical reason for civilians to own guns. Although the gun was misused in this particular case, criminals do exist and there are many who like to rob/mug/rape/murder innocent people. If there weren't, we wouldn't need laws. All weapons, especially guns, are equalizers. They allow physically inferior people to defend themselves against physically superior people who want to abuse their superiority. They allow a single person to defend themselves against multiple assailants. Melee weapons can do the same but are far less effective due their dependence on physical prowess. To claim that guns serve no purpose is short-sighted and ignores these facts.

Jesus Heckler & Koch! ...predicted correctly as well the apologetic, self-pardoning tone in the description after I started this video, heard O'Relly and his steady stream of completely senile-sounding polemic of some goddamn Fantasy Candyland world where WHAT??! Cops serve warrants with the reasonable cause of ammo purchases? 1 bullet or a thousand you fucking moron talking-head douche. " the rare event of me agreeing with Bill" Give yourself another pat on the back there, Finster, of course this only reasonable moment of Bill-Zen for someone who agrees with the unending stream of bullshit I just heard?!

Right, instead boring and hot air was replaced with sad, confusing, and just a little disturbing. He looked like he was going senile up there and it's definitely not how I want to remember Dirty Harry.

>> ^Fantomas:

>> ^PlayhousePals:
Yup ... ol' Clint is verging on senile. Those folding chairs were obviously on the sidewalk and NOT his lawn. Sad really =o/
They were lawn chairs, maybe they should have been on his lawn.


My idea of a lawn chair is one on which you can recline =oP

>> ^PlayhousePals:
Yup ... ol' Clint is verging on senile. Those folding chairs were obviously on the sidewalk and NOT his lawn. Sad really =o/
They were lawn chairs, maybe they should have been on his lawn.

Yup ... ol' Clint is verging on senile. Those folding chairs were obviously on the sidewalk and NOT his lawn. Sad really =o/

Has he lost his fucking mind?

He has disapproved of America's wars in Korea (1950–1953), Vietnam (1964–1973), Afghanistan (2001–present), and Iraq (2003–2011), believing that the United States should not be overly militaristic or play the role of global policeman.[250][251] He considers himself "too individualistic to be either right-wing or left-wing",[252] describing himself in 1974 as "a political nothing" and "a moderate"[248] and in 1997 as a "libertarian".


He has endorsed same-sex marriage[254][257] and contributed to groups supporting the Equal Rights Amendment for women, which failed to receive ratification in 1982.[258] In 1992, Eastwood acknowledged to writer David Breskin that his political views represented a fusion of Milton Friedman and Noam Chomsky.[259]

MITT FUCKING ROMNEY????????????????????????????????????????????

Edit: I think he's genuinely going senile.

Here's their source, the before and after slidey thing at the bottom is hilarious.

http://cultura.elpais.com/cultura/2012/08/21/actualidad/1345563468_581914.html

I hope I do stuff this cool by the time I'm senile.

A living wage wouldn't mean much without a job you senile clod.

The idea of being senile, crippled, and confused in old age is one of those things that terrifies me, but what's worse is the idea of being crippled and unable to communicate but being completely alert and aware on the inside. This video has reinforced that fear in a big way.

But it's beautiful.

Old people lose their minds, especially those with illness or drug addictions. Ever seen an interview with the older Marlon Brando? John McCain? Liz Taylor? Laurence Olivier? All were smart people at one time and in late life were near drooling idiots. The list is long.
Rush was a pretty sharp mind back in the day too, now he's senile and needs to get off the air and put in a home.

You would not be old. However when combined with advanced age an increased frequency of those mistakes might suggest such a conclusion.

I agree with Voodoo. He was a man of principle once upon a time. He's being exploited by his party now.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^VoodooV:
If it truly was a honest mis-speak then it's slam against McCain getting old and senile and unable to keep track of stuff which leads to a slam against how this guy almost became President.

You've never made a mistake like that? Seriously, I'm 34, and by your classification I'd be "old and senile and unable to keep track of stuff". Now, I don't like McCains policies, but people make the occasional mistake. It's not like Bush, when every second word was a mistake.

>> ^VoodooV:

If it truly was a honest mis-speak then it's slam against McCain getting old and senile and unable to keep track of stuff which leads to a slam against how this guy almost became President.


You've never made a mistake like that? Seriously, I'm 34, and by your classification I'd be "old and senile and unable to keep track of stuff". Now, I don't like McCains policies, but people make the occasional mistake. It's not like Bush, when every second word was a mistake.