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newtboy says...

Lol.

Tell that to the makers of “a scanner darkly”.

This wasn’t a color corrected crop of a still photo, it was a complete change of a short film.

Technically any digital photo is cgi, but that’s a red herring…this was digitally altered video, a much higher bar.

If the term is so meaningless, why argue against it?

You exaggerate to the point of hyperbole, which indicates you know you’re wrong. This argument isn’t about any still image ever digitized, it’s about a video digitally altered so much that it no longer resembles the original. Just because it’s a simple process doesn’t change that it’s an image generated by a computer.

kir_mokum said:

HA!

this img wasn't generated by a computer. altered [slightly], yes, but filters ≠ CGI. blurring an img, using a blue filter, or cropping an image does not make it "CGI". you can argue the semantics of if it being "generated" by a computer, but arguing it is means all digital photos, images, hell even text of any kind are "CGI". "CGI" is already a stupid, near meaningless term and pushing the definition to "any image that appears or had appeared on a computer in any way" makes it even less useful. [generally VFX/visual effects is the umbrella term people are looking for. CG is the term if they're referring to rendered assets. this is neither. this poor use of language is a huge pet peeve for me.]

imma ignore the "art" argument because that is regularly a black hole of silly and i don't feel the need to engage that but those painted potatoes more effort than this.

O.C.- The Florida Of California

newtboy says...

Don't fool yourself, it's been in wide spread use for years, mostly behind the scenes (but publicly at airports and larger events). It makes me want a scramble suit (see A Scanner Darkly).
Since we are already under AI surveillance, more daily, it might as well work for the good of the public, no?

Thanks...I have yet to hear anyone else make the comparison. Obviously I knew who typhoid Mary was....I'm glad to know someone else did too.

luxintenebris said:

y'all heard of pandora's box? facial recognition is evil - in every sense of the word - that if it becomes reality, it will become a nightmare.

'covid marys' is a nice term. typhoid mary was a carrier of a deadly pathogen - herself be unaffected - that spread the bacteria that infected 53; killed 3 (one of those killed was the daughter of the woman who hired her as a cook). the parallel is obvious.

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newtboy says...

Some of us STILL feel that way about cell phone users. ;-)
(I still say what my dad said in the 80's..."Cell phones are for people who are so unimportant that they can't afford to miss a phone call."...it's no longer true, but I still think it's funny.)
I think your examples are good theoretical reasons to tackle this issue now, while it's still possible to see the recording device....I keep wishing someone would actually make the facial recognition scrambler from 'A Scanner Darkly' for those of us that don't want to be tracked and recorded any time we leave our property. Of course, even if they did make it, I probably couldn't afford it.
I just HOPE these are just a fad and that they never catch on. I could really get behind them if they didn't have the camera/microphone built in, and instead relied on a good GPS to interact with the real world, but I know the answer to that wish...'good luck with that'.
At least, if you're correct, people can tell when the recorder is on, unless the indicator is broken or disabled. Remember, it's well known that it's fairly easy for hackers and the state to access your PC/laptop/cell phone camera without any indication that it's on, so the red light isn't a 'catch all' indicator, but it's way better than nothing.

ChaosEngine said:

It's pretty easy to laugh at glass users as inconsiderate dickheads with stupid looking technology. Ya know, the same way everyone did with cell phone users back in the 80s.

I don't particularly like glass or the concept of everyone recording all the time, but it is going to happen. And what's more, it's going to impossible to tell.

What happens when the camera/display aspect of glass becomes small enough that it's just a contact lens. Or projecting a bit further, when we have neural interfaces that can directly record vision? Yeah, it all sounds a bit sci-fi, but then so would a smartphone back in the 80s.

History has shown that almost every outright dismissal of new technology as a fad has been wrong.

@newtboy, by the way, I believe glass does have a visible recording indicator.

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A Scanner Darkly -- the bike scene

kulpims says...

sorry, folks. it's a *dupeof=http://www.videosift.com/video/A-Scanner-Darkly-Bike-Scene
I was so stoned last night, I posted a dupe of my own post. time to take a vacation and no drugs for two weeks;) someone, hobble me

Spiderman 3 with a Scanner Darkly Effect

Spiderman 3 with a Scanner Darkly Effect

Spiderman 3 with a Scanner Darkly Effect

Raaagh says...

what.

Someone edgefinds or sponge filters or whatever this is, and it gets sifted?

I think www.smashingmagazine.com has a tute for the scanner darkly effect.

Like, THIS monstrosity is a photoshop filter that was included back in 97 and no one used it because it was so ugly.

Back in 92 you could get away with this effect if you where a grunge alternative band on a low budget who needed something rough and unpolished for MTV.

This is the video version of drawing spider man using the grafitti tool in MS Paint.

This is the video version of playing the audio from the trailer with a "sci-fi" filter on it.

And it got sifted.

what.



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