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george carlin-the sanctity of life is bullshit

BicycleRepairMan says...

He is not. He is making the point that we made it up. There is a difference. There is no god, we made all that up. Sorry. There is no "sanctity of life" either, its an incoherent phrase that doesnt pass even a shallow honest analysis (as shown in this video)

BUT, and there is a big but, Life is a continuos process, full of degrees and nuances (which, by the way, Carlin makes a point of in the continuation of this clip), and the value of say, a human life, is something that we should estimate on the grounds that we have brains, feelings, relatives, friends and so on.

Saying shit like "Life is Sacred" is both simplistic, hypocritical and complete bullshit. In fact, it is ultimately disrespectful to living creatures whose life should be respected, a point which the ramblings of the anti-abortion team never ceases to illustrate perfectly

lantern53 said:

Yes, he's making that point. But he also clearly makes the point that there is no such thing as the sanctity of life, that there is no God, etc.

george carlin-the sanctity of life is bullshit

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Obama - "We Can't Tolerate This Anymore"

Reporter drops F-bomb, studio anchor expression is priceless

poolcleaner says...

MY EARS! I'm going to hell because of you, she devil! GAH! I practiced celibacy and was home schooled to avoid any auditory temptations but now I'm ruined. Raped. Ear RAPED. Fucked in the ears.

And now I have no choice but to become the beast I always feared. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK ME JESUS

Souls! Feed me souls! BLlaefoiugrbsrgbsgrubs -- and now I transform into my final form to destroy the sanctity of life and shatter the world. Laying siege to all holy lands! Nothing is sacred, all life is to be extinguished, and suffering will be endless. ENDLESS!!!!!

Millions, billions, trillions, untold time passes; dimensions crossed, the very meaning of ALL unraveled and laid forth, meaningless. Meaningless! All conflict, all freedoms, all philosophy is now folly; unnecessary as a multiuniversal nihilism cascades across the boundaries of consciousness. The godheads destroyed, their corpses rotting the core beyond ALL.

Blackness.

Void.

Nirvana crumbles and the enlightened turned against the balance. Yahweh screams in horror, corrupted and turned into a tentacle demon to rape its devoted followers. Ra's phallus goes limp. Baal is ground into an all beef hamburger patty. Shiva, Vishnu, Devi, Surya and Ganesha warp into a single form, becoming the Eye of Saron. The reptilians of earth devolve into alligators, and the greys become monkeys.

There is no shelter because there is only horror. For all eternity, in all realities.

Sorry, that's just my interpretation of the reporter's reaction.

Louis CK - If God Came Back

shinyblurry says...

Well, you mention the unborn, yet on the main the thinking in environmental circles is that we have too many humans and that the Earth is unable to support them. Therefore, abortion (over 70 million unborn children murdered in the US since the 70s) is to be embraced, and even more extreme methods of population control are not only openly pondered, but have resulted in mass sterilization programs which have been mercilessly implemented in third world countries. Here are some of the greater atrocities committed in the name of preserving "mother earth":

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-population-control-holocaust

Among the intellectual elite, human lives are reduced to being paid the same consideration as one might the lowly cockroach. Contrary to your assertion, it is the Christian who affirms the sanctity of life and the inherent value of every person, whereas it is the opponents of Christianity that affirm infanticide:

Dawkins approves of infanticide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFWt9cj3uj4

If you would reread my prior comment, you will see that I am in agreement with @RFlagg that we should be good stewards of the Earth. However, the mania of the environmentalists is to devalue human life and subordinate it to their misguided notions of preservation. The sickness of this world is sin, and the only one who can cure it is God. This world will continue to degenerate until the Lord returns because it is in rebellion against its Creator:

2 Chronicles 7:14

if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

cosmovitelli said:

Let me help you reconcile these points:

Penn Jillette: An Atheist's Guide to the 2012 Election

quantumushroom says...

Religious texts are like the US Tax Code, plenty of contradictions, useless passages and passages made useless or contradictory by the passage of time. Yet few if any people are totally against the concept of taxation and the spirit of taxation (especially liberals). It's also a matter of faith that the tax code is truly fair and what it says can be interpreted in only one way, so the history and usefulness of a text can be entirely different from its original intent and still work.

Given all that, for atheists (even Penn) to nitpick the religious beliefs of politicians is silly. Politicians who take their faith seriously are less likely to wake up believing they are God and the State their means of ruling absolutely.

The better part of all religions affirms the sanctity of life. Atheism simply cannot match this.

CULT of Ron Paul

Lawdeedaw says...

>> ^bmacs27:

@Lawdeedaw Really? So this sounds like the words of a guy that values the personal liberties of the mother over a zygote?
"There is something that precedes liberty, and that is life," Paul said. "If we are to defend liberty … you have to understand where that liberty, and where that life comes from. It does not come from the government, it comes from our creator."
Seems to me the "right to life" precedes liberty, and I suspect he would legislate accordingly. Not to mention his introduction of the "sanctity of life act" in 2005 which would have defined life as beginning with conception, and his votes in support of a federal ban on partial birth abortions in 2000 and 2003.
Funny, that sounds an awful lot like every other anti-choice politician's policy making. I didn't realize "choice" was such an infringement on "liberty."


Sigh---even if I am wrong on this issue it doesn't make I dumb btw. Nor would it you.

Paul also doesn't believe in the death penalty--but that's again up to states in his opinion. He doesn't like cocaine but it's not his right to take it from you to decide.

Are his policies sound or sane? No less than the other "candidates." I am not saying he is god nor am I saying that all his policies are golden (I.e., the gold standard.) I would still suspect his policies are better than liars who have no real policies...

Essentially I feel the exact same as Paul in this matter except I don't think life begins in the womb (I feel it begins when intellect starts; i.e., when stimuli can be reacted to.) And, just like Paul, I would never, ever take away a woman's choice on abortions.

Below is a conservative site blasting Paul for his decision to put his personal feelings aside and give choice...

http://www.conservativesnetwork.com/2011/07/12/ron-paul-wrong-on-abortion-its-a-human-right/

If the cavemen-conservatives hate him, I like him.

CULT of Ron Paul

bmacs27 says...

@Lawdeedaw Really? So this sounds like the words of a guy that values the personal liberties of the mother over a zygote?

"There is something that precedes liberty, and that is life," Paul said. "If we are to defend liberty … you have to understand where that liberty, and where that life comes from. It does not come from the government, it comes from our creator."

Seems to me the "right to life" precedes liberty, and I suspect he would legislate accordingly. Not to mention his introduction of the "sanctity of life act" in 2005 which would have defined life as beginning with conception, and his votes in support of a federal ban on partial birth abortions in 2000 and 2003.

Funny, that sounds an awful lot like every other anti-choice politician's policy making. I didn't realize "choice" was such an infringement on "liberty."

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Germans in the Woods

thepinky says...

The concept of war is both terrible and fascinating to me. There are thousands of ways to settle disputes, but certain things are so important to us as people and nations that we can only come to a resolution by taking and sacrificing life. To me it is a testament to the sanctity of life. It is the most precious thing we can offer. Ironically, it is also a testament to how cheaply we value life, especially if our causes aren't just.

One of my dear friends was in Afghanistan and was ordered to open fire in a home, reportedly full of hostile, armed civilians. When he entered the house, he saw that the people were children holding guns. They aimed their weapons at him, and he had no choice but to shoot them. He later found out that the children had been holding water guns, spray-painted black. If the man in this video is haunted by that one memory, I can't imagine what thousands of veterans and soldiers must go through every day. My friend has terrible PTSD and his life is falling apart because of it. It kind of pisses me off.

Dr. Rand Paul on the So-Called Death Panels

HollywoodBob says...

>> ^longde:
>> ^HollywoodBob:
It never fails to amaze and befuddle me when I see conservatives talking about respecting life and doing everything possible to save the lives of the sick and elderly, preventing abortions, and the sanctity of life. These are the same people that think it's perfectly acceptable to carpet bomb thousands of Afghanis to maybe get a handful of terrorists.
All of their arguments just drip with hypocrisy. When will they just go away?

There's no contradiction once you realize they're speaking from the POV of white supremacy.


Yeah the framers would be so proud, they created a country where you had all the freedoms you wanted as long as you were a rich white man. No wonder the GOP keep referencing them when they talk about the damage progress has made to this country.

Dr. Rand Paul on the So-Called Death Panels

longde says...

>> ^HollywoodBob:
It never fails to amaze and befuddle me when I see conservatives talking about respecting life and doing everything possible to save the lives of the sick and elderly, preventing abortions, and the sanctity of life. These are the same people that think it's perfectly acceptable to carpet bomb thousands of Afghanis to maybe get a handful of terrorists.
All of their arguments just drip with hypocrisy. When will they just go away?


There's no contradiction once you realize they're speaking from the POV of white supremacy.

Dr. Rand Paul on the So-Called Death Panels

HollywoodBob says...

It never fails to amaze and befuddle me when I see conservatives talking about respecting life and doing everything possible to save the lives of the sick and elderly, preventing abortions, and the sanctity of life. These are the same people that think it's perfectly acceptable to carpet bomb thousands of Afghanis to maybe get a handful of terrorists.

All of their arguments just drip with hypocrisy. When will they just go away?



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