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Michele Bachmann is Anti-Vaccination

Yogi says...

>> ^ponceleon:

>> ^Hanover_Phist:
I've seen better videos of Michele Machmann making a fool of herself. Although she clearly opposes vaccinations for some reason, I believe her "official" stance in this video is to oppose the mandatory distribution of vaccinations. Which kind of makes sense. Making them widely available and forcing people to take them are two different things.

Actually, this is a pretty good point and reminds me of a really interesting thing way back. I did residential work back in the day and I remember my first year I had a Christian Scientist who did not have any inoculations. His roommate totally freaked out and we ended up consulting the health services to find out what they thought about the situation and basically they said that it really wasn't a big deal because literally everyone around him was inoculated, so it wasn't like he was going to spontaneously generate plague from nowhere.
I suppose it would still be icky had he had traveled while on vacation and become exposed to something virulent, but given that everyone else had been inoculated, it probably wouldn't mean a total pandemic...


I was raised a Christian Scientist (not anymore) I never got any vaccinations. I've been to 4 continents in some of the worst...dankest places you could imagine. I'm fine, because people overreact about this sort of thing. There's a chance I could've died but there's also a chance I could get hit by a bus. I'm sick of people being such fucking pussies. Our bodies are pretty resilient, if we let them be.

Michele Bachmann is Anti-Vaccination

ponceleon says...

>> ^Hanover_Phist:

I've seen better videos of Michele Machmann making a fool of herself. Although she clearly opposes vaccinations for some reason, I believe her "official" stance in this video is to oppose the mandatory distribution of vaccinations. Which kind of makes sense. Making them widely available and forcing people to take them are two different things.


Actually, this is a pretty good point and reminds me of a really interesting thing way back. I did residential work back in the day and I remember my first year I had a Christian Scientist who did not have any inoculations. His roommate totally freaked out and we ended up consulting the health services to find out what they thought about the situation and basically they said that it really wasn't a big deal because literally everyone around him was inoculated, so it wasn't like he was going to spontaneously generate plague from nowhere.

I suppose it would still be icky had he had traveled while on vacation and become exposed to something virulent, but given that everyone else had been inoculated, it probably wouldn't mean a total pandemic...

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Lann says...

Is that the chick from "Roommating"?


Glenn Beck on Hurricane Irene: 'I told you so.'

bareboards2 says...

This is the Mormon line -- in fact, my niece just posted on facebook how prepared she is and how her (non Mormon) roommate is also covered.

She made fun of her father too -- he bought her a bone knife. So she can cut up dead squirrels, is all she can figure. My brother is pretty funny....

She lives in an old brownstone in Manhattan.

Judge Judy: Here's Who We Support With Our Tax Money

longde says...

Also, I'm curious. Do you have an objective measure for what group is a drain, or is that just some unjustified xenophobia? Have you measured the GDP of Taiwanese (and other groups) in america somehow? Cause I don't know how < 1% of the population outproduce the large groups you consider "drains".
Methinks you're talking out of your ass on this one. >> ^chilaxe:
Right, their motivation is personal benefit, but the difference comes from that their "selfish" useful productivity contributes to society more than they take (the definition of prosociality), as opposed to being a drain on the economy like other sub-cultures.
>> ^longde:
Immigrants who overstay visas don't do it out a sense of altruism, to help our country. They do it to benefit illegally from the bounty of our society. In that sense, they are very much like welfare cheats.
>> ^chilaxe:
@legacy0100 "All other ethnic groups would have their own ways to solve their problems with the US government... From my Taiwanese roommate, I learned that you can manage to stay in the US past your visa renewal limit..."
Sounds like something of a false symmetry. People from Taiwanese culture who overstay in the US so they can contribute to society doesn't seem on par with other cultures freeloading off of welfare or various methods of fraud to avoid payments into government revenue.



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longde says...

Says you. I know Taiwanese immigrants, some of whom went to grad school with me and are very productive. I know others who are here illegally, making money by breaking the law. Same thing in Taiwan itself; there are hardworkers, shady folks, and yes lazy louts. Taiwanese/Taiwanese American culture is not inherently hardworking and meritocratic.

It's not the group its the individual; I thought you of all people might understand that.

Same thing with every low economic group in America. I know members of these groups who are hardworking, and others who are shady and lazy. No ethnic culture is inherently one way or another.

>> ^chilaxe:
Right, their motivation is personal benefit, but the difference comes from that their "selfish" useful productivity contributes to society more than they take (the definition of prosociality), as opposed to being a drain on the economy like other sub-cultures.
>> ^longde:
Immigrants who overstay visas don't do it out a sense of altruism, to help our country. They do it to benefit illegally from the bounty of our society. In that sense, they are very much like welfare cheats.
>> ^chilaxe:
@legacy0100 "All other ethnic groups would have their own ways to solve their problems with the US government... From my Taiwanese roommate, I learned that you can manage to stay in the US past your visa renewal limit..."
Sounds like something of a false symmetry. People from Taiwanese culture who overstay in the US so they can contribute to society doesn't seem on par with other cultures freeloading off of welfare or various methods of fraud to avoid payments into government revenue.



Judge Judy: Here's Who We Support With Our Tax Money

chilaxe says...

Right, their motivation is personal benefit, but the difference comes from that their "selfish" useful productivity contributes to society more than they take (the definition of prosociality), as opposed to being a drain on the economy like other sub-cultures.
>> ^longde:

Immigrants who overstay visas don't do it out a sense of altruism, to help our country. They do it to benefit illegally from the bounty of our society. In that sense, they are very much like welfare cheats.
>> ^chilaxe:
@legacy0100 "All other ethnic groups would have their own ways to solve their problems with the US government... From my Taiwanese roommate, I learned that you can manage to stay in the US past your visa renewal limit..."
Sounds like something of a false symmetry. People from Taiwanese culture who overstay in the US so they can contribute to society doesn't seem on par with other cultures freeloading off of welfare or various methods of fraud to avoid payments into government revenue.


Judge Judy: Here's Who We Support With Our Tax Money

longde says...

Immigrants who overstay visas don't do it out a sense of altruism, to help our country. They do it to benefit illegally from the bounty of our society. In that sense, they are very much like welfare cheats.

>> ^chilaxe:
@legacy0100 "All other ethnic groups would have their own ways to solve their problems with the US government... From my Taiwanese roommate, I learned that you can manage to stay in the US past your visa renewal limit..."
Sounds like something of a false symmetry. People from Taiwanese culture who overstay in the US so they can contribute to society doesn't seem on par with other cultures freeloading off of welfare or various methods of fraud to avoid payments into government revenue.

Judge Judy: Here's Who We Support With Our Tax Money

chilaxe says...

@legacy0100 "All other ethnic groups would have their own ways to solve their problems with the US government... From my Taiwanese roommate, I learned that you can manage to stay in the US past your visa renewal limit..."

Sounds like something of a false symmetry. People from Taiwanese culture who overstay in the US so they can contribute to society doesn't seem on par with other cultures freeloading off of welfare or various methods of fraud to avoid payments into government revenue.

Judge Judy: Here's Who We Support With Our Tax Money

legacy0100 says...

A lot of low-wage minorities, who have now became the dominant group in US demographics, live this way.

Your typical Pennsylvania-born Anglo-Saxon American also has his/her own cheat system to avoid paying heavy taxes, as all would other ethnic groups have their own ways to solve their problems with the US government.

I've witnessed first hand how various people cheat the system. I roommated with several different ethnicities throughout my years living in NYC. Russians, Taiwaneses, Ecuadorians, etc. And seemed to me that each ethnicity had a different issue to be dealt with the US government, and thus each ethnic groups had a unique cheat system of their own.

From my Taiwanese roommate, I learned that you can manage to stay in the US past your visa renewal limit by constantly enrolling yourself to a language school or any school of sort. As long as you prove that you are a student, you will get a student visa for at least 2 years each time you enroll to a new school, but never actually graduate from any of them.

From few of the black customers I had back when I was working at a gym, I've learned that you can pay much cheaper insurance rate if your car is registered outside of New York State, preferably Florida. You'd contact one of your family members there and claim that you've lived in Miami for 1 year, forward the address to your relative's house, and register the car.

From a Malaysian girl I used to hit on, I learned that you receive free tuition plus government grants if you qualify as an independent on your tax form. All you have to do is prove that you've lived outside of your parent's house (but still within New York) and don't receive additional financial assistance for at least 1 year. She got the free government grants by changing her mailing address to her uncle's house, while never moving out from her parents house, no rent and all.

The list goes on and on and on.



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