I make more than that, and I still won't vote for him. His 20% accross-the-board tax cut scheme will hit the 100-250k crowd the hardest.>> ^cosmovitelli:

>> ^deedub81:
#2 The reason why this stereotype exists is because lower-income voters (those with a household income of fewer than $30,000 per year) lean HEAVILY to the left and favor the democrat party by a margin of 17 points.


Well anyone earning less than $100k a year and voting for Mitt Romney is a turkey voting for Christmas.
And if the Republicans let the insurance lobby get their way with healthcare, then you better make that a $million because there's at least a few non partisan micro organisms out there that'll burn through that and more..
No doubt you'll be prepared to play the odds as a tough, independent Randian Individualist who don't need nothing from no-one, but there's nothing sadder than an unlucky right winger coughing up blood & rationalizations as they wither away in their repossessed home, staring in confusion at Fox News and Mitt's trillion dollar grin announcing another invasion..

>> ^deedub81:

#2 The reason why this stereotype exists is because lower-income voters (those with a household income of fewer than $30,000 per year) lean HEAVILY to the left and favor the democrat party by a margin of 17 points.




Well anyone earning less than $100k a year and voting for Mitt Romney is a turkey voting for Christmas.

And if the Republicans let the insurance lobby get their way with healthcare, then you better make that a $million because there's at least a few non partisan micro organisms out there that'll burn through that and more..

No doubt you'll be prepared to play the odds as a tough, independent Randian Individualist who don't need nothing from no-one, but there's nothing sadder than an unlucky right winger coughing up blood & rationalizations as they wither away in their repossessed home, staring in confusion at Fox News and Mitt's trillion dollar grin announcing another invasion..

This only serves to aggravate me. Another taxpayer panel in which we enjoy the benefit of plausible deniability (or whatever there greased 300,00$K lawyers claim works for the current system of worked in loopholes). More so, because I know not a single one of these sons of bitches will do time or ever care--really care. They should be in jail for life. They should be in a federal prison, full security, no white collar bullshit.

They should live on a meager sum the rest of the entirety of their days with all their buildings, lands, businesses, capital, funds, CDs, IRAs, everything except their social security and even that should be looked at (as they should be allowed a low middle income and that is IT); they can gain no earmarks, no passes from their buddies or gifts (although he can live with him as long as his money is not being paid out), they cannot benefit from a will or other form of transfer ship at an appointed time or setting, and then ANYTHING I haven't covered. No politics, no books, no television, no movies, you're in the "white collar" death knell that is their true jail cell. He CAN enlist in the army, they may have a modest job, but the dream of riches are OVER. They chose the ultimate path of pressure that can be exerted on a white collar criminal.

If only we thought that crime like that could be as dangerous as a murderer (and trust me--I'm sure many of you do know already--but, if you don't white collar crimes can end up killing thousands of people, but their hands are virtually clean). Perhaps it is part of the taboo we have with mental disease, we'd rather it remain in the back-room or rather in the back of your mouth. Strangely many of these white collar criminals most likely all suffer from having almost NO empathy for others; they literally could care less what it is like to be me or you. This is a mental issue, but we never talk of such things--it's rude! But, violence has its own mental disease "shards" as well that cause it to start either young or later in life...

But, we refuse to deal with the main topic, so how about punishment(s) atleast? White collar crime is seen as something you do at your beach house in Florida on the weekend. Your lawyer tells you about it on your flight into Boston on Monday, you have three death threats sent to your e-mail, you mildly humming, "Hip To Be Square", send them to your spam folder and block the senders after you send them a death threat/repossession letter back through a company proxy, which then you use another proxy to feed the final bytes through. Your lawyer tells you you'll have to show up to an injunction and say this exact prepared statement, which of course, nicely enough they allow you to read from when they take your testimony. This is our guy. Right now he's eating a stake with a glass of Chardonnay from Italy in the early 90's--meanwhile, "Easy Lover", is booming in the background while his mistress takes a swim in his Penthouse's swimming pool. He doesn't have to get up early, so it'll be a long night--after all nobody is coming for him.

Attack them hard and they might take notice.



What a new punishment that would be for white collar criminals--a death sentence, for them.



Just institute what I said above and it may change things. Attack the problem psychologically, as jail-time is either meaningless or to them it's "Club Fed". But, this of course requires good lawmakers, which requires competent voters, which requires a great education system...

No calls, no businesses, no helping: they are burnt.

Individual or Country its the same thing. When you cant pay your bills the bank will stop lending and start repossessing.


America will turn into a Greece with in 1 or 2 elections. It can be avoided but politicians needs to keep their jobs and will keep spending money. Since America is a violent country we will do a lot more fighting and killing than Greece. But hey our government has planned for that and put up 200 FEMA camps. They are all up and ready to open its doors. they just need the collapse of the dollar.

You should be glad the focus is on this card, and not Obama's record.

1,000 DAYS OF OBAMA

DEBT: Total Public Debt Outstanding has increased by $4.2 trillion [source: Treasury Dept]

MORE DEBT: America accumulated as much debt over the past 1,000 days as it had in the country’s first 79,135 days (July 4, 1776 through March 3, 1993) [source: Treasury Dept]

DEBT PER DAY: America’s debt has increased by about an average of $4.2 billion per day [source: Treasury Dept]

INTEREST ON U.S. DEBT: $1.2 trillion has been spent servicing U.S. debt—that by itself would be the world’s 15th largest economy
[source: Treasury Dept]

JOBS: 2.22 million jobs lost [source: BLS]

POVERTY: Nearly 3 million more Americans in poverty—poverty rate has gone from 13.2% to 15.1% [source: Census]
FOOD STAMPS: 12 million more Americans living off of food stamps [source: Dept of Agriculture // Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program]
GOVERNMENT SPENDING: Spent more than $9.6 trillion – 60% more than the federal government has taken in [source: OMB and CBO]

MORE GOVERNMENT SPENDING: Under Obama, the govt has spent an average of $6.6 million every minute and $111,111 every second [source: OMB and CBO]

CHINA: Owns $1.17 trillion of our debt (as of July) – a 58% increase from January 2009 [source: Treasury Dept]
GOVERNMENT JOBS: Excluding the U.S. Post Office, Federal Government has added 140,000 jobs [source: BLS]

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE: Has averaged 9.4% under Obama [source: BLS]

MORE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE: Has been at or above 9% for 840 of the 1000 days [source: BLS]
UNDEREMPLOYED: Nearly 5 million more Americans are underemployed [source: BLS]

REGULATIONS – NEW RULES: 7,076 new final regulatory rules issued [source: Federal Register]

REGULATIONS – FEDERAL REGISTER: 45,696 pages of new regulatory rules were added to the Federal Register
[source: National Archives and Records Administration, Office of the Federal Register, various years]

AVERAGE WEEKS UNEMPLOYED: Unemployed out of work for an average of 40.5 weeks – that’s more than double since Jan 2009 [source: BLS]

JOB APPROVAL RATING: Dropped nearly 30 percentage points [source: Gallup Tracking]

SPEECHES AND PUBLIC REMARKS: Roughly 806 speeches/public remarks made – once every 1.24 days.

SPEECHES — JOBS: Has said the word “jobs” 4,718 times in 591 speeches

SPEECHES — ECONOMY: Has said the word “economy” 4,541 times in 605 speeches

CIVILIAN LABOR FORCE: Has decreased by 168,000 [source: BLS]

MANUFACTURING: 818,000 manufacturing jobs lost — a -6.5% drop since Jan. 2009 [source: BLS]

BANK FAILURES: 371 Banks have failed [source: FDIC]

STATES: 37 States have higher unemployment rates [source: BLS]

GOLF: 82 rounds of golf — average of one round every 12 days [source: Mark Knoller, CBS –Fox News Tracking]

REPOSSESSIONS: More than 2.4 million homes have been repossessed for failure to pay their mortgage [source: RealtyTrac]

BANKRUPTCIES: Some 4 million total (business and non-business) bankruptcies [source: American Bankruptcy Institute]

GAS PRICES: Up more than 80% and has been over $3/gallon every day in 2011 [source: AAA/OPIS]

UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS: Almost $380 billion spent by federal government on unemployment benefits [source: Treasury Dept and CBO]

ECONOMIC TEAM: 7 key members of Obama’s Economic team have resigned [Summers, Romer, Bernstein, Orszag, Goolsbee Volker and Rouse] [source: News Reports/Tracking]

HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS: Health insurance premiums (family coverage) up 9% this year and 12.7% from 2009
[source: Kaiser Family Foundation]

MEDIAN INCOME: Real median household income in the U.S. in 2010 was $49,445, a -2.3% decline from 2009 [source: Census Dept]

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY: Spent more than $26 billion on the EPA – FY2011’s spending will be about 40% more than FY2009 [source: Treasury and OMB]

1,000 DAYS OF OBAMA

DEBT: Total Public Debt Outstanding has increased by $4.2 trillion [source: Treasury Dept]

MORE DEBT: America accumulated as much debt over the past 1,000 days as it had in the country’s first 79,135 days (July 4, 1776 through March 3, 1993) [source: Treasury Dept]

DEBT PER DAY: America’s debt has increased by about an average of $4.2 billion per day [source: Treasury Dept]

INTEREST ON U.S. DEBT: $1.2 trillion has been spent servicing U.S. debt—that by itself would be the world’s 15th largest economy
[source: Treasury Dept]

JOBS: 2.22 million jobs lost [source: BLS]

POVERTY: Nearly 3 million more Americans in poverty—poverty rate has gone from 13.2% to 15.1% [source: Census]
FOOD STAMPS: 12 million more Americans living off of food stamps [source: Dept of Agriculture // Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program]
GOVERNMENT SPENDING: Spent more than $9.6 trillion – 60% more than the federal government has taken in [source: OMB and CBO]

MORE GOVERNMENT SPENDING: Under Obama, the govt has spent an average of $6.6 million every minute and $111,111 every second [source: OMB and CBO]

CHINA: Owns $1.17 trillion of our debt (as of July) – a 58% increase from January 2009 [source: Treasury Dept]
GOVERNMENT JOBS: Excluding the U.S. Post Office, Federal Government has added 140,000 jobs [source: BLS]

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE: Has averaged 9.4% under Obama [source: BLS]

MORE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE: Has been at or above 9% for 840 of the 1000 days [source: BLS]
UNDEREMPLOYED: Nearly 5 million more Americans are underemployed [source: BLS]

REGULATIONS – NEW RULES: 7,076 new final regulatory rules issued [source: Federal Register]

REGULATIONS – FEDERAL REGISTER: 45,696 pages of new regulatory rules were added to the Federal Register
[source: National Archives and Records Administration, Office of the Federal Register, various years]

AVERAGE WEEKS UNEMPLOYED: Unemployed out of work for an average of 40.5 weeks – that’s more than double since Jan 2009 [source: BLS]

JOB APPROVAL RATING: Dropped nearly 30 percentage points [source: Gallup Tracking]

SPEECHES AND PUBLIC REMARKS: Roughly 806 speeches/public remarks made – once every 1.24 days.

SPEECHES — JOBS: Has said the word “jobs” 4,718 times in 591 speeches

SPEECHES — ECONOMY: Has said the word “economy” 4,541 times in 605 speeches

CIVILIAN LABOR FORCE: Has decreased by 168,000 [source: BLS]

MANUFACTURING: 818,000 manufacturing jobs lost — a -6.5% drop since Jan. 2009 [source: BLS]

BANK FAILURES: 371 Banks have failed [source: FDIC]

STATES: 37 States have higher unemployment rates [source: BLS]

GOLF: 82 rounds of golf — average of one round every 12 days [source: Mark Knoller, CBS –Fox News Tracking]

REPOSSESSIONS: More than 2.4 million homes have been repossessed for failure to pay their mortgage [source: RealtyTrac]

BANKRUPTCIES: Some 4 million total (business and non-business) bankruptcies [source: American Bankruptcy Institute]

GAS PRICES: Up more than 80% and has been over $3/gallon every day in 2011 [source: AAA/OPIS]

UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS: Almost $380 billion spent by federal government on unemployment benefits [source: Treasury Dept and CBO]

ECONOMIC TEAM: 7 key members of Obama’s Economic team have resigned [Summers, Romer, Bernstein, Orszag, Goolsbee Volker and Rouse] [source: News Reports/Tracking]

HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS: Health insurance premiums (family coverage) up 9% this year and 12.7% from 2009
[source: Kaiser Family Foundation]

MEDIAN INCOME: Real median household income in the U.S. in 2010 was $49,445, a -2.3% decline from 2009 [source: Census Dept]

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY: Spent more than $26 billion on the EPA – FY2011’s spending will be about 40% more than FY2009 [source: Treasury and OMB]

>> ^Sketch:
Imagine her disappointment when daddy loses his job in this economy, the bank repossesses their house, papa begins to drink, and mommy runs off with another man, her sister gets arrested for making meth, and she starts turning tricks at 13. But, by God, she'll be the best damned whore there ever was!


I was tempted to downvote you too, but I'm smart enough to realize senses of humour exist outside my own comfort zone.

Imagine her disappointment when daddy loses his job in this economy, the bank repossesses their house, papa begins to drink, and mommy runs off with another man, her sister gets arrested for making meth, and she starts turning tricks at 13. But, by God, she'll be the best damned whore there ever was!

^ I can see your point.

Playing by the rules, yes, I think things would have been worse.

But if we would have played by different rules, e.g. treat the banks and the bankers as we would treat anybody who was delinquent on their loans--repossessing their toys, to start with, and kicking them out of the system--that would have helped, too.

Had we punished them and relieved the debts of the people that they suckered into ARM loans, and then went around giving money to the little people instead of handing it over by the boatload to the one's who were already rich and who, coincidentally, were responsible for the problem to begin with....

Yeah, I see your point.

Rougy, I'm not sure i see the relevance of your comment; "Every loan-shark in the world thanks you for that sentiment". I guess you are equating banks-which are legally bound to expose all costs and penalties before loaning you money-to back street thugs who have no legal constraints and who will resort to physical violence. Also, i am well aware, thank you, how banks-like insurance companies-cover themselves in the event of loss. Relating to the young ladies video,i'm, again, not sure of your comments relevance.
How naive of me not to realise that-as you say; "Debt is their real business. And foreclosure. And repossession". Ofcourse, how silly of me, banks are in the business of ruining any business or individusl they loan money to. They don't want them to succeed and grow. And they certainly don't want these people coming back to borrow more money.Thanks Rougy, you have helped me see that the banks want to kill off all the golden geese that line their pockets.How could i have possibly thought that banks were a necessary part of a growing economy! Forgive me, i was blind but now i see.
With your parting comment; "Yes, bring back the debtors' prisons". You appear to paint me as uncaring and ruthless regarding anyone who gets into debt.This is NOT so. There are many unscrupulous individuals acting in the loan field and they SHOULD be exposed. However, my original view remains intact. When you incur debt you MUST realise that the fates can conspire against you-redundancy/market collapse/illness or any other factors-so it is IMPERATIVE to shop around for the most suitable loan. Read the small print and, most of all, have a back up plan. In an ideal world this young lady should have been able to do what she did. We are NOT, however, in an ideal world. And, until a purely altruistic banking system is put in place-which ofcourse wouldn't work. ("Er, yes sir, my company has gone bust so i'd like another £250k interest free loan,thanks".)We have, sadly, a system which is flawed and imperfect. But, rather than using colourful language and rhetoric (rape. asshole) why don't you give us your solution?

>> ^A10anis:
"did the banks force you to get into debt? Was it their negligence, or yours, that you did not realise you did not have the ability to pay back your debt? and now you blame the bank for giving you the money you were asking for."

Every loan-shark in the world thanks you for that sentiment.

What you don't realize is that the banks do not loan real money. If they have a million dollars in assets, they are allowed to issue ten to thirty million dollars worth of loans. They also have insurance on that imaginary money, so that they can write off their imaginary losses.

Debt is their real business. And foreclosure. And repossession.

I mean, if they really wanted their money back, would they jack up interest rates to 29% on people who are already having trouble paying it back? No, it's just an excuse to rape someone legally.

After they rape people with 29% interest rates, causing them to file bankruptcy, they write off the loss and sell the debt to a collector, who buys the loan for about ten cents on the dollar and makes a living by being an asshole to people and trying to con them into paying him 50 to 80 percent of the original debt.

The credit card biz doesn't need any help. They need a collar on their throats and a boot in the ass.

"Let's not, as seems to be the case these days, have laws that stifle free enterprise because of ignorance and stupidity."

Yes, bring back the debtors' prisons.

>> ^syncron:
I don't think debt collector is a very good occupation during an "end of the world" scenario.

Good thinking. Oh wait, the US goverment already thought of that.

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>> ^syncron:
I don't think debt collector is a very good occupation during an "end of the world" scenario.


But he still collected from the Cylons!

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